Andractim/DHT gel or stanolone powder sources?

[thepipisreal]

Is this an exotic ester or something?
Not very up to date on DHT.

Jano usually mentions in his comments if it's using his own proprietary methods. e.g
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Makes sense. I tend to trust Jano but admittedly I know very little about the details of what he does and that kind of testing.

It's DHT Enanthate. As far as I know it's the only source for it, especially since DHT raws have disappeared from the surface of the earth.

Personally I've been waiting for something like that for a long time so I'm really excited about it.

 

[Needpowder]

Why not ust check our branded thread in my profile here?

 

[thepipisreal]

Why not ust check our branded thread in my profile here?

This thread is about DHT and you posted Jano tests about Reta and Semaglutide. Are you saying you also sell DHT raws or injectable DHT?

What am I missing here?

 

[fit2beking]

"They're" (he, almost certainly) running a scam and trying to buy time, that's the most likely explanation. It's too many times in a row now.

On the bright side, the injectable DHT E from 5AR Society is legit, got results from Jano attached to this post.

They're very responsive and I got my order in 2-3 days (I believe it was actually 2 days) from my payment being accepted.

A little underdosed at 85mg/mL, and their take is that Jano "has admitted to not using reference standards in HPLC-testing DHT esters, only his own proprietary orthogonal methods" and it's actually much closer to 100mg/mL.

Either way I'm happy with it since it's the only UGL I know of making injectable DHT E.

Probably MCT oil as it pulls super fast. Overall great experience.

What does your dosing regime look like?

 

[thepipisreal]

What does your dosing regime look like?

Right now I'm doing 200mg/week Test E + 25mg/week DHT E + 125iu/day hCG + 2.5mg/day Tadalafil.

I'm trying to optimize brain chemistry and quality of life mostly, so basically TRT+ and the DHT helps with E2 control, drive/motivation, libido, erection quality, and cognition in some ways, so I'm not after bodybuilding dosages and I'm going to titrate up to 50mg/week but probably won't go higher.

Just started the DHT E 10 days ago now and I think I'm just starting to feel some benefits. I'm not sure yet whether it'll be the best thing ever but I'm pretty hopeful.

I'm doing daily injections/administration for everything because stability makes a significant difference for me. Ultimately it's very individual but I personally don't handle big variations in peak and trough levels very well.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Why not ust check our branded thread in my profile here?

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What does reta and sema have to do with dht?

 

[fit2beking]

Right now I'm doing 200mg/week Test E + 25mg/week DHT E + 125iu/day hCG + 2.5mg/day Tadalafil.

I'm trying to optimize brain chemistry and quality of life mostly, so basically TRT+ and the DHT helps with E2 control, drive/motivation, libido, erection quality, and cognition in some ways, so I'm not after bodybuilding dosages and I'm going to titrate up to 50mg/week but probably won't go higher.

Just started the DHT E 10 days ago now and I think I'm just starting to feel some benefits. I'm not sure yet whether it'll be the best thing ever but I'm pretty hopeful.

I'm doing daily injections/administration for everything because stability makes a significant difference for me. Ultimately it's very individual but I personally don't handle big variations in peak and trough levels very well.

Thanks for the info. I was thinking about trying DHT and was wondering if 100-200mg per week would be a good starting dose to add to my cruise of 200mg test cyp. I’m currently in a blast so I would wait to use it after Sept.

 

[thepipisreal]

Thanks for the info. I was thinking about trying DHT and was wondering if 100-200mg per week would be a good starting dose to add to my cruise of 200mg test cyp. I’m currently in a blast so I would wait to use it after Sept.

I would definitely start on the lower end of that; DHT has anti-E properties and you can crash you E2 (at least at the receptor level even if on paper it looks ok) and end up with low E2 symptoms pretty quickly.

 

[Whistles77]

"They're" (he, almost certainly) running a scam and trying to buy time, that's the most likely explanation. It's too many times in a row now.

On the bright side, the injectable DHT E from 5AR Society is legit, got results from Jano attached to this post.

They're very responsive and I got my order in 2-3 days (I believe it was actually 2 days) from my payment being accepted.

A little underdosed at 85mg/mL, and their take is that Jano "has admitted to not using reference standards in HPLC-testing DHT esters, only his own proprietary orthogonal methods" and it's actually much closer to 100mg/mL.

Either way I'm happy with it since it's the only UGL I know of making injectable DHT E.

Probably MCT oil as it pulls super fast. Overall great experience.

Thank you so much for sharing that. Letting go of 1ml and paying for testing on top of the expensive vial is quite an investment. Sad to see its underdosed, but there's not much choice available at the moment.

I'm taking about 15mg of 5ARsoc DHTe per week as an experiment, to offset sides of NPP.

 

[thepipisreal]

Thank you so much for sharing that. Letting go of 1ml and paying for testing on top of the expensive vial is quite an investment. Sad to see its underdosed, but there's not much choice available at the moment.

I'm taking about 15mg of 5ARsoc DHTe per week as an experiment, to offset sides of NPP.

You're welcome. I've gotten some good info and sources from this place so I'm glad to give back.

Yeah I think not much is needed for mental/mood benefits and offsetting E2 of other AAS related side effects, I'm curious how that'll work for you.

I'm definitely starting to feel some benefits after 11-12 days or so now in terms of mood/drive and libido.

 

[Whistles77]

You're welcome. I've gotten some good info and sources from this place so I'm glad to give back.

Yeah I think not much is needed for mental/mood benefits and offsetting or other AAS related side effects, I'm curious how that'll work for you.

I'm definitely starting to feel some benefits after 11-12 days or so now in terms of mood/drive and libido.

It's really hard to assess if it works for me, but at least it's a safety net.

Success is lack of NPP misery on one side and no e2 crash misery on the other. I should be fine at this low dose, but really hard to know. My NPP and Primo is also relatively low dose, so it's very much a TRT+ mood oriented stack.

 

[thepipisreal]

It's really hard to assess if it works for me, but at least it's a safety net.

Success is lack of NPP misery on one side and no e2 crash misery on the other. I should be fine at this low dose, but really hard to know. My NPP and Primo is also relatively low dose, so it's very much a TRT+ mood oriented stack.

Be careful with Primo if you're worried about crashing E2. I crashed mine to 10pg/mL (sensitive) on 140mg/week Test C + 70mg/week Primo E, and I'm a pretty strong aromatizer.

Is NPP for your joints? I've always stayed away from it based on all the stories of it negatively affecting libido sometimes for a really long time.

 

[Whistles77]

Be careful with Primo if you're worried about crashing E2. I crashed mine to 10pg/mL (sensitive) on 140mg/week Test C + 70mg/week Primo E, and I'm a pretty strong aromatizer.

Is NPP for your joints? I've always stayed away from it based on all the stories of it negatively affecting libido sometimes for a really long time.

I will. I saw that in your post history and appreciate the warning. More people should know of that risk. I learned my lesson before too with a crash. 140T:70P would prob crash most people in time as Primo serum levels accumulate. When people talk about ratios of 2:1, few people mention that it assumes a blast. There's a minimum threshold of Test based that's needed for those ratios to apply. Someone else put it well "Choose your Primo dose, and then adjust your test to fit your e2 needs". In my case primo dose is really just a bit of an e2 throttle. NPP is for my joints....or specifically to protect one joint that had synovial chondromatosis. Dose is the low end of therapeutic, and DHT to balance out the mental sides.

 

[thepipisreal]

I will. I saw that in your post history and appreciate the warning. More people should know of that risk. I learned my lesson before too with a crash. 140T:70P would prob crash most people in time as Primo serum levels accumulate. When people talk about ratios of 2:1, few people mention that it assumes a blast. There's a minimum threshold of Test based that's needed for those ratios to apply. Someone else put it well "Choose your Primo dose, and then adjust your test to fit your e2 needs". In my case primo dose is really just a bit of an e2 throttle. NPP is for my joints....or specifically to protect one joint that had synovial chondromatosis. Dose is the low end of therapeutic, and DHT to balance out the mental sides.

Your protocol's well thought out, I think DHT might work the way you want it to with regard to combatting the side effects of NPP even at a low dose if you're mostly interested in the mental benefits.

My main struggle right now is with hCG. I feel like it's working less and less well. I'm using old (pharma) Pregnyl that's been expired for 6 months (unreconstituted though, so I assumed it would be fine), but reconstituted for only 2 weeks now, so it seems weird.

Thing is I have to make it work because without hCG my brain just stops working almost completely.
I've seen very significant benefits from supplementing Preg/DHEA as well, but hCG does something more.

Related to that, the same people (5ARS) making the DHT E I just got tested also make injectable DHEA E. I got some and will test it as well.

The advantage over oral DHEA would be first of course 100% bioavailability, much more stable levels with the Enanthate ester, and also it will bypass first pass metabolism through the liver, which isn't just about bioavailability but also skews the ratio of active DHEA to DHEA-S(ulfate) in favor of DHEA-S, which means more conversion to DHEA's metabolites, which include E2.

In other words, injectable DHEA E would lead to more actual DHEA benefits and less conversion to DHEA on top of the other benefits, so I'm really excited about that.

I'm trying to get them to make injectable Pregnenolone E for the same reasons. We'll see...

 

[bigforyouben]

No DHT detected.

Janoshik Analytical

They have refunded the purchase price (including shipping). I'm still out the cost of testing, but it's better than nothing. Of course they say they're going to be testing their raws from now on but I'll be skeptical.

 

[Whistles77]

Be careful with Primo if you're worried about crashing E2. I crashed mine to 10pg/mL (sensitive) on 140mg/week Test C + 70mg/week Primo E, and I'm a pretty strong aromatizer.

Is NPP for your joints? I've always stayed away from it based on all the stories of it negatively affecting libido sometimes for a really long time.

You said to watch out….. and….. too late!

Was feeling pretty good last Monday 21st for my blood test, but by Saturday I was pretty miserable. E2 sensitive results came back relatively quickly and showed my e2 was 23pg/ml on Test of 1326ng/dl and Free T 426ng/dl.

Labs were drawn lunchtime. About 30hours after last dose on an EOD pinning schedule.

I suspect e2 continued to decline through rest of week.

Feel rubbish! Switched to just TC (and upped dose a tiny bit) to let primo and dhte clear

 

[thepipisreal]

You said to watch out….. and….. too late!

Was feeling pretty good last Monday 21st for my blood test, but by Saturday I was pretty miserable. E2 sensitive results came back relatively quickly and showed my e2 was 23pg/ml on Test of 1326ng/dl and Free T 426ng/dl.

Labs were drawn lunchtime. About 30hours after last dose on an EOD pinning schedule.

I suspect e2 continued to decline through rest of week.

Feel rubbish! Switched to just TC (and upped dose a tiny bit) to let primo and dhte clear

Good on you for catching it early at least, I strongly believe cardiovascular damage happens very quickly once E2 truly crashes.
That's what for me makes Primo much less safe and innocuous than many claim. It also wrecked my lipids even on a small dose, and I've always had really good lipids.

I agree it's a good idea to take a break from the DHTs for a little bit. Honestly with the DHT E you might realize you get enough E2 antagonism to now need any other compound for that purpose.

 

[kglifter]

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[bloke]

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anyone has tried this ? sublingual would do the job

Everything they sell is fake.

 

[kglifter]

searching for dht is a job XD
The most likely thing to find would be Mestanolone, but that is also impossible to obtain at the moment i can't find a source