MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[readalot]

I can chip in -- if it's necessary. But given how game Primal is, and how other sources are posting raws tests, I expect they'll rise to this occasion themselves.

As usual, you are the voice of reason. I am sure Primal wants to take the opportunity to show off 3rd party validation of his >= 99% pure EQ and DECA.

No brainer. He would enter the MESO vendor HOF.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Three orders, three extremely fast arrivals with solid service. Thank you for not sucking so far!

 

[Bandern]

It’s okay that you don’t help, but shame for being a poor.

This is the only respectable approach

 

[Primal_Pharma]

As usual, you are the voice of reason. I am sure Primal wants to take the opportunity to show off 3rd party validation of his >= 99% pure EQ and DECA.

No brainer. He would enter the MESO vendor HOF.

 

[readalot]

Example

USP ref standard for deca...

99.4% purity


So to @Photon 's point, I guess a vendor could try to get a sample through various means. But an honest vendor would of course send the raws they use in their products.

 

[readalot]

CRM for EQ (there is no USP ref standard or monograph):

Very sexy.

Boldenone Undecylenate | LGCFOR3560.00 | LGC Standards

Boldenone Undecylenate, LGCFOR3560.00, from Reference Materials for Sports Drugs and Steroid Testing . High-quality, certified reference materials, available to purchase online at LGC Standards.

www.lgcstandards.com

https://assets.lgcstandards.com/sys-master%2Fpdfs%2Fh89%2Fh7a%2F10430753439774%2FCOA_LGCFOR3560.00_ST-WB-CERT-3845252-1-1-1.PDF

A little under 99% purity using the "100% method".

@janoshik, is this the vendor you use for CRMs?

 

[Primal_Pharma]

CRM for EQ:

Very sexy.

https://assets.lgcstandards.com/sys-master%2Fpdfs%2Fh89%2Fh7a%2F10430753439774%2FCOA_LGCFOR3560.00_ST-WB-CERT-3845252-1-1-1.PDF

A little under 99% using the "100% method".

That’s beautiful

 

[readalot]

That’s beautiful

That's what I call a COA.

 

[readalot]

Honestly… that shit doesn’t even matter… we know that’s bull about the 98-99% raw purity… especially with eq & deca… @The-Squat can chime in on his experience with deca and that purity along with eq… we are seeing test eaters come in lower than normal… what makes people think eq and deca really coming in that high… EO , Guac people don’t care when gear is cheap…

Jesus. Now we are going to disparage, instead of encourage, vendors testing their raws?

Or maybe I am misunderstanding what shit you are referring to.

If a vendor has any amount of 99%+ pure raws, that's cool. Let's see them.

 

[dcfreak]

Another successful TD today.

Thanks Primal- very impressed so far.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

Another successful TD today.

Thanks Primal- very impressed so far.

Appreciate the support, brother. Thank you!

 

[FastBun]

Jesus. Now we are going to disparage, instead of encourage, vendors testing their raws?

Or maybe I am misunderstanding what shit you are referring to.

If a vendor has any amount of 99%+ pure raws, that's cool. Let's see them.

To me it matters… we both know 99% purity is a lie…but it won’t make a difference…people are always going to chase cheap gear… besides Stan idk a vendor right now that isn’t re selling oils… it even seems so with opti… Devon…. Obviously axle… these guys too…

 

[readalot]

To me it matters… we both know 99% purity is a lie…but it won’t make a difference…people are always going to chase cheap gear… besides Stan idk a vendor right now that isn’t re selling oils… it even seems so with opti… Devon…. Obviously axle… these guys too…

Thanks for the clarification to help me understand. I remember you did see the new vendor over at SST that came with raw testing receipts. People were debating whether he/she/ze was reselling.

 

[readalot]

A GCMS will show if there's anything toxic in the oils that is volatile.

Unfortunately not.

Post in thread 'Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)'

Jan 13, 2024

Residual solvents (class 2 and 3 from USP) should be easy with GCMS/LCMS.

LCMS is not suitable for residual solvents, GCMS is, but it's not about the GCMS part only - you need a proper sample introduction system for highly volatile substances such as residual solvents.

This sample introduction system would be vastly different from the one used to introduce high boiling point, low volatility compounds such as anabolic steroids and you can't really have optimal performance with both, so it's not really that simple.

For us to become routinely capable of such testing we'd have to...

• janoshik

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But you know that I love that test. I hope we see some.

I was focusing on what the vendor could do. We want blind testing for GCMS as you said.

 

[readalot]

99% purity is a lie

If the vendor is making product with CRM/USP grade raws, hell, I would be tickled pink. Would be incredible!

99+% pure EQ raws...
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[FastBun]

Thanks for the clarification to help me understand. I remember you did see the new vendor over at SST that came with raw testing receipts. People were debating whether he/she/ze was reselling.

Yeah but their testing is from January… we are almost in August… they should be coming with recent testing…

 

[readalot]

Yeah but their testing is from January… we are almost in August… they should be coming with recent testing…

We will have to see the blind testing. Good point.

 

[Jky3rd]

We will have to see the blind testing. Good point.

My samples are blind and in the home stretch, should land in janos hands by Thursday. not raws obviously but finished product.

 

[readalot]

My samples are blind and in the home stretch, should land in janos hands by Thursday. not raws obviously but finished product.

God bless you. We were taking about the vendor on SST but fantastic to have blind testing here.

The big props I will give to @Primal_Pharma is that he stated he will give back credit for testing in crypto/XMR. This is huge as then you never have to associate your forum handle/test report with an address in order to obtain credit on your testing. Linking address to forum handle is a big NO NO. It has been a recurring concern for folks.

Props @Primal_Pharma. That is really solid of you.

 

[Photon]

Unfortunately not.

Post in thread 'Source QC and C of A (do you have one?)'

Jan 13, 2024

Residual solvents (class 2 and 3 from USP) should be easy with GCMS/LCMS.

LCMS is not suitable for residual solvents, GCMS is, but it's not about the GCMS part only - you need a proper sample introduction system for highly volatile substances such as residual solvents.

This sample introduction system would be vastly different from the one used to introduce high boiling point, low volatility compounds such as anabolic steroids and you can't really have optimal performance with both, so it's not really that simple.

For us to become routinely capable of such testing we'd have to...

• janoshik

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It's the closest we can get for now, unless theres a better Jano test..?
Volatile/semi-volatile substances will show up on the GCMS, which will allow us to hopefully get a better idea whats in there.

For instance.
This is Devon's Test C, we can see that it has EO and is contaminated with Test E. He just kept selling it till it was sold finish, without informing anyone on his website.



This is Scholar's Tren, he claims to have MCT, but it doesn't match the other MCT oil GCMS by other vendors. It also has propyleneglycol which i believe is due to soap, but his stuff is cheap so i don't think his buyers care.



To make it clear, these reports have nothing to do with Primal.
I am just sayhing that these reports add more value, than raws testing which end users cannot verify.