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@verylargeshoes Can you and @Sampei explain the 2028 product expiry on the COA since you two were so adamant about raw lasting for 15+ years?
It says expiration/retest date. Same reason medications that may last 30 years have 2 year expiration dates, the manufacturer is saying that stored properly they are guaranteeing it maintains potency/efficacy till a certain date that has been shown and studied, but can’t say for certain past that date.

Expiration dates are borderline useless for many things.
 
It says expiration/retest date. Same reason medications that may last 30 years have 2 year expiration dates, the manufacturer is saying that stored properly they are guaranteeing it maintains potency/efficacy till a certain date that has been shown and studied, but can’t say for certain past that date.

Expiration dates are borderline useless for many things.

An even 2 years from manufacturing date is a tell that the manufacturer is using the default minimum guaranteed potency date, and not anything based on degradation testing. It could be good for 40 years at low temps.

2 years is minimum stability testing period for most drug regulators, FDA, EMA, etc, no need for a drug manufacturer to prove it lasts longer than that.

An expiration date less than 2 years can be an indicator that a drug is more susceptible to degrading over time than most.
 
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It says expiration/retest date. Same reason medications that may last 30 years have 2 year expiration dates, the manufacturer is saying that stored properly they are guaranteeing it maintains potency/efficacy till a certain date that has been shown and studied, but can’t say for certain past that date.

Expiration dates are borderline useless for many things.
IE not 15+ years. I’m just curious if @verylargeshoes, @Sampei and @readalot would be cool with it being past the expiry date since they are on a thread promoting filtering oils with non-medical grade Amazon syringe filters. Just trying to keep it real. Probably get some AI response from Opera browser but I would like to understand why they don’t hold themselves to the same standards they push on this Sponser and other members. I invite them to walk the walk, if they are going to talk the talk.
 
since they are on a thread promoting filtering oils with non-medical grade Amazon syringe filters
Not quite. I did link to these....


Is this what you are referring to?

Convenient that you left this out....

 
An even 2 years from manufacturing date is a tell that the manufacturer is using the default minimum guaranteed potency date, and not anything based on degradation testing. It could be good for 40 years at low temps.

2 years is minimum stability testing period for most drug regulators, FDA, EMA, etc, no need for a drug manufacturer to prove it lasts longer than that.

An expiration date less than 2 years can be an indicator that a drug is more susceptible to degrading over time than most.
Why are you assuming it’s degraded when it’s within the 3 year expiry period?
Not quite. I did link to these....


Is this what you are referring to?
Why are you promoting someone’s website for filters on a sponsor thread?
 
Why are you assuming it’s degraded when it’s within the 3 year expiry period?

Why are you promoting someone’s website for filters on a sponsor thread?
Clarifying on your comments. See my post and then try and formulate a thoughtful response.
 
Why are you assuming it’s degraded when it’s within the 3 year expiry period?

Why are you promoting someone’s website for filters on a sponsor thread?

What are you talking about?

I said a 2 year expiration date on pharma is a strong clue the manufacturer just complied with the minimum amount of time for stability testing required by regulators, and not necessarily an indicator of how long the drug stays potent beyond 2 years.

If it's less than 2 years, there's a good likelihood stability testing showed it started degrading prior to 2 years.
 
since they are on a thread promoting filtering oils with non-medical grade Amazon syringe filters.

These are good references. Thank you for sharing. That's my concern with using these syringe filters for anything that isn't absolutely critical from sterility standpoint. What's the net-net effect?

We don't have the means to characterize what's coming off these cheap syringe filters from Amazon or even the Tisch filters.

Get your facts straight.
 
Clarifying on your comments. See my post and then try and formulate a thoughtful response.
I’m calling you out bro. Debates and discussion is especially important to the community here and your little meme crew goes around promoting other vendors and making bold claims and statements to create FUD around the competitors that don’t just fall in line with your relentless efforts to discredit sources you aren’t working with or for.
Like I said, I personally invite you to walk the walk if you’re going to talk the talk.
Get your facts straight.
You always play the semantics card.
 
I’m calling you out bro. Debates and discussion is especially important to the community here and your little meme crew goes around promoting other vendors and making bold claims and statements to create FUD around the competitors that don’t just fall in line with your relentless efforts to discredit sources you aren’t working with or for.
Like I said, I personally invite you to walk the walk if you’re going to talk the talk.

You always play the semantics card.
Primal logged onto his alt to attack,lmao
 
I’m calling you out bro. Debates and discussion is especially important to the community here and your little meme crew goes around promoting other vendors and making bold claims and statements to create FUD around the competitors that don’t just fall in line with your relentless efforts to discredit sources you aren’t working with or for.
Like I said, I personally invite you to walk the walk if you’re going to talk the talk.

You always play the semantics card.
Calling out @readalot? Man, that’s like trying to arm wrestle a windmill - you’re just gonna tire yourself out while he’s still spinning. Sure, he writes walls of text that feel like reading War and Peace on leg day, and yeah, for a bunch of iron-loving guys who think heads are mainly for eating, that’s a tough read. But go for it, bro - this is gonna be one hell of a show to watch!
 
Calling out @readalot? Man, that’s like trying to arm wrestle a windmill - you’re just gonna tire yourself out while he’s still spinning. Sure, he writes walls of text that feel like reading War and Peace on leg day, and yeah, for a bunch of iron-loving guys who think heads are mainly for eating, that’s a tough read. But go for it, bro - this is gonna be one hell of a show to watch!
I’m dead. Lofl.
 
IE not 15+ years. I’m just curious if @verylargeshoes, @Sampei and @readalot would be cool with it being past the expiry date since they are on a thread promoting filtering oils with non-medical grade Amazon syringe filters. Just trying to keep it real. Probably get some AI response from Opera browser but I would like to understand why they don’t hold themselves to the same standards they push on this Sponser and other members. I invite them to walk the walk, if they are going to talk the talk.

Your reading comprehension is not up to the task today. @readalot has been asking this source to show evidence for their own incredible claims. That's it. If Primal said he cooked gear in his Instant Pot after scraping out the chili, then fine. No questions -- except for where he stands on the age-old beans-in-chili debate.

Did anybody make claims that the filters were "medical grade"? Or that the resulting product was appropriate to be sold as pharmaceuticals? No. We're talking about reducing harm. I believe that even using filters bought on Amazon/AliX/etc., filtering gear of dubious provenance is likely to result in less or equal harm to me. That's a decision I made, in part, due to a lack of information about its source and production. If you ask me for advice, I will share that belief. You are free to do as you choose. I'm not asking you to buy anything from me. We're all just trying to find a better way.

Nothing we're doing here is medically justifiable or conforming to any approved standard, at all, in the least. If you think anybody's claiming otherwise, I encourage you to treat them with all the skepticism you can muster. That looks a lot like ... <waves vaguely at this thread in general>

P.S. I do all my own writing, John Henry style. If you think humans can't produce prose at least as well as the posters here, you need to hang around smarter humans...if you can fit it into your busy dick riding schedule.
 

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