MESO-Rx Sponsor Primal Pharma - US Domestic

[Musclechick2]

Answer my questions.

The receipts? Blind tests for HPLC won't be receipts. You dont understand that? Your extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Seems pretty reasonable to simply answer readalots questions to get him off your back primal

 

[Musclechick2]

Brother, when those blind tests come back, all we ask is that you keep that same energy.

There’s a lot of guys in here watching and waiting to prove you wrong, not with words, but with actual results. Because no matter what we say, it feels like you’ve already made up your mind. So at this point, we’re just gonna let the bloodwork, lab reports, and real users speak for us.

That said, we do appreciate you keeping us on our toes, it forces us to stay sharp. But damn man… you really are committed to being a thorn in the side.

You’re relentless, I’ll give you that. Just don’t disappear when the receipts show up.

Can you answer readalots questions ?

 

[readalot]

pharmaceutical-grade

Prove it. Otherwise, BS.

 

[readalot]

These are DMF API suppliers? What is a full COA? What specs are present?



You are in compliance with USP 797?



Excipients and amounts?

No answer on first two questions.

 

[readalot]

We don’t shop from generic bulk marketplaces. All of our raws come directly from vetted manufacturers that provide full COAs (Certificates of Analysis) per batch, not just generic ones. We reject anything that doesn’t meet spec, even if it’s expensive to do so. We’ve also built long-standing relationships with these manufacturers. That means we’re not playing roulette every time we restock. We know exactly what we’re getting, and it’s consistent.

No answer. Generic ones? What do you mean?

What specs?

 

[readalot]

Yep, you guessed it. Ignored.

R

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Jun 28, 2025

Test E 250mg

Units are mg/ml

Hopefully you don't put these errors on your labels.

Did you test your raws? If not, what was your assumption on raw purity per compound for each batch?

From that and the HPLC results you can estimate the raw purity for each API raw (wrapping your proecedural error into that estimate). Would be very nice to include that in a table.

Some interesting trends above. If your brewer was given a raw with known purity of say 98%, how tight would your errors be for concentration? +/- 1%, 2%, 5%, etc.

• readalot

• 

 

[Musclechick2]

No answer. Generic ones? What do you mean?

What specs?

This is concerning. These are pretty straightforward questions he has.

 

[readalot]

This is concerning. These are pretty straightforward questions he has.

This vendor claims access to pharma API. You would think he could put together a thoughtful response to my questions. Pharma grade. Easy to say. Much harder to prove.

Do you see me pounding on Neo, Stanford, Matrix? Nope. I wonder why.

 

[The Answ3r]

This vendor claims access to pharma API. You would think he could put together a thoughtful response to my questions. Pharma grade. Easy to say. Much harder to prove.

Do you see me pounding on Neo, Stanford, Matrix? Nope. I wonder why.

Neo and Stan - no doubts there. But Matrix? Maybe he’s cleaned up his act and is G2G again, but after that whole “mystery objects floating in the oil” saga where they had to re-filter everything, I was done. I don’t want to feel like I’m running a science experiment every time I draw from a vial.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

This vendor claims access to pharma API. You would think he could put together a thoughtful response to my questions. Pharma grade. Easy to say. Much harder to prove.

Do you see me pounding on Neo, Stanford, Matrix? Nope. I wonder why.

This vendor claims access to pharma API. You would think he could put together a thoughtful response to my questions. Pharma grade. Easy to say. Much harder to prove.

Do you see me pounding on Neo, Stanford, Matrix? Nope. I wonder why.

Anything else?

 

[Musclechick2]

This vendor claims access to pharma API. You would think he could put together a thoughtful response to my questions. Pharma grade. Easy to say. Much harder to prove.

Do you see me pounding on Neo, Stanford, Matrix? Nope. I wonder why.

They are pretty much done here if they cannot provide answers. At least for me. Customer service goes right out the window if what you’re claiming isn’t what I’m putting in my body. Pretty simple

 

[readalot]

All final vialing is done under a pharmaceutical-grade laminar flow hood to minimize contamination risks.

No such thing. Tell me about your flow hood specs.

Tell us about your SOPs that keep you in compliance with UPS 797?

 

[BigDadd7]

I think most people have figured out the pharma talk was just marketing hype. At this point, people are waiting for Jano results to come back on the stuff being shipped, as well as blood work. Pretty much the same way every other vendors quality is judged.

 

[Musclechick2]

I think most people have figured out the pharma talk was just marketing hype. At this point, people are waiting for Jano results to come back on the stuff being shipped, as well as blood work. Pretty much the same way every other vendors quality is judged.

The difference is other vendors rush to answer questions. No need to hype anything. Let testing and results speak for themselves.

 

[The Answ3r]

Damn, I’ve been checking out Jano’s results and everything looks great - except the Tren E, which tested at 240 instead of the claimed 200. And we all know Tren isn’t something you mess around with. I’m still debating whether to take the risk or not… the price is just too damn tempting.

 

[Musclechick2]

Damn, I’ve been checking out Jano’s results and everything looks great - except the Tren E, which tested at 240 instead of the claimed 200. And we all know Tren isn’t something you mess around with. I’m still debating whether to take the risk or not… the price is just too damn tempting.

Good to see a 10 year member posting. 20 bucks for var looks beyond tempting lol

 

[Primal_Pharma]

The difference is other vendors rush to answer questions. No need to hype anything. Let testing and results speak for themselves.

I think our 60+ Jano tests out the gate have definitely spoken for themselves

Anything else?

holy shit boys we finally got a thumbs up from readalot!!!

 

[BigDadd7]

Good to see a 10 year member posting. 20 bucks for var looks beyond tempting lol

The testing on it looks good too. If variables was my thing, I would definitely send it out for testing before I used it.

 

[readalot]

Anything else?

Thank you for sharing. Sincerely. The GC row (row 9) has my antenna going up. "GC" on its own is not an analytical method. Same with residual solvents. Was this an area count method or did the vendor use total mass weight vs measured mass of API? Each test should reference a USP method.

@janoshik, care to comment on this COA? Reaction?

@Primal_Pharma, how does purity in COA compare to estimate purity from the batch you made? Compare the measured amounts in your batch recipe to the HPLC results you shared to get an estimated purity.

 

[readalot]

Maybe he’s cleaned up his act

I was pleased. Appears he has.