Blood pressure and RHR challenge

[Gbunk]

Long story short, started a cut on 500 test and kept bp under control on 5mg lisinopril. 130/70’s. Dropped 20 lbs, eat clean, been doing cardio, and trying being healthy. a little over a week ago I hear my heart rate going to bed but I was so tired I feel fast asleep. Around that same time I started 2iu hgh and I tanked my estrogen and started raloxifene for sensitive nips. Fast forward to Wednesday and I noticed my RHR was 96 which is super unusual for me. Thinking it might just be caffeine I try and sleep it off. The next morning it is still 96-102 and my BP is 135/86. I immediately take 10mg more lisinopril and recheck in a couple hours to see 120/82. I pop another 5mg and recheck 4-5 hours later and it’s 120-117/71-69. Stopped hgh from that day on. Got cbc and cmp. BUN and something else were slightly elevated on cmp. CBC was RBC, Hcr, and Hemoglobin. Took 20mg Friday and Saturday and it ranged from 125-120/84-79. RHR came down 90-96. Donated blood today (Sunday) and RHR seems down to 84-90 but blood pressure has ranged from 131-125/84-88. I am hydrated as well. I just added another 5mg lisinopril and took 10mg cialis. I did pin test today in the morning.

I’ve taken Tren , anadrol, and Superdrol and never had this issue. 40mg Superdrol and 20mg lisinopril and I was 120’s over 70’s. I’ve had higher test and never had this issue. I’m on 500 test C and my estrogen is low. What the fuck is going on? I ordered some nebivilol to try and help with my RHR.
Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Probably going come off because I don’t have a clue what’s going on. I usually take my morning readings around the same time but not all afternoon/evening readings are at the same time.

I did move my calories up so I’m closer to maintenance now about 2-3 weeks ago. More fats and carbs essentially.

 

[Tbaz192]

So I was prescribed Linso as well. 10mg but I take 5mg. Definitely took a solid 2 weeks for my true numbers to set in.
At the same dose. Changing doses might just make it worse.

But anytime I’ve “felt” my heartbeat or noticed it was way “ stronger”
Was when my blood levels were pretty elevated. My blood was thick… real thick.
Even the BP meds didn’t help that. They just lowered my blood pressure.
I also had elevated iron but low ferritin. (Something I’ve been dealing with for a long time)
But
Also a big thing. Most don’t realize.
Anxiety about it increases the sensation/mental notice of my heart and its beating.

Def notice it more on blast. Due to heightened anxiety and gear flowing.

Someone with a bigger brain will respond with a way better response and probably the true cause.

 

[Gbunk]

So I was prescribed Linso as well. 10mg but I take 5mg. Definitely took a solid 2 weeks for my true numbers to set in.
At the same dose. Changing doses might just make it worse.

But anytime I’ve “felt” my heartbeat or noticed it was way “ stronger”
Was when my blood levels were pretty elevated. My blood was thick… real thick.
Even the BP meds didn’t help that. They just lowered my blood pressure.
I also had elevated iron but low ferritin. (Something I’ve been dealing with for a long time)
But
Also a big thing. Most don’t realize.
Anxiety about it increases the sensation/mental notice of my heart and its beating.

Def notice it more on blast. Due to heightened anxiety and gear flowing.

Someone with a bigger brain will respond with a way better response and probably the true cause.

My blood numbers sky rocketed in 9 weeks which is unusual for me so I gave blood. RBC was 6.37, hemoglobin 19.6, and hematocrit 60.4. I wasn’t fully hydrated. I donated a few days shy of 9 weeks and then my numbers came back like that so I donated again. This morning 3 readings at 117-114/78-77 and one at 105/77. That’s the lowest reading I’ve had in the morning but I did take more meds last night. Pulse was 84-90

I wasn’t super worried until last night. I try to sit for in a chair supported back and arms for at least 5 minutes before taking a reading. Watch a video on my phone and relax.

I figured drugs would build up in the system but this blood pressure is highly abnormal for me and the only compound I’m on is 500 test c.

 

[Tbaz192]

My blood numbers sky rocketed in 9 weeks which is unusual for me so I gave blood. RBC was 6.37, hemoglobin 19.6, and hematocrit 60.4. I wasn’t fully hydrated. I donated a few days shy of 9 weeks and then my numbers came back like that so I donated again. This morning 3 readings at 117-114/78-77 and one at 105/77. That’s the lowest reading I’ve had in the morning but I did take more meds last night. Pulse was 84-90

I wasn’t super worried until last night. I try to sit for in a chair supported back and arms for at least 5 minutes before taking a reading. Watch a video on my phone and relax.

I figured drugs would build up in the system but this blood pressure is highly abnormal for me and the only compound I’m on is 500 test c.

Ya those are around what my levels were too. But I never broke 54 hema.
I had to do a double red donation to lower them. Seems your BP has stabilized

Don’t run your E2 into the ground, it’ll give you crazy anxiety and make all of this worse. I did that a while back on 500 test 300 EQ. Had the worst panic attacks about my heart lol

 

[BamaCrazy]

Long story short, started a cut on 500 test and kept bp under control on 5mg lisinopril. 130/70’s. Dropped 20 lbs, eat clean, been doing cardio, and trying being healthy. a little over a week ago I hear my heart rate going to bed but I was so tired I feel fast asleep. Around that same time I started 2iu hgh and I tanked my estrogen and started raloxifene for sensitive nips. Fast forward to Wednesday and I noticed my RHR was 96 which is super unusual for me. Thinking it might just be caffeine I try and sleep it off. The next morning it is still 96-102 and my BP is 135/86. I immediately take 10mg more lisinopril and recheck in a couple hours to see 120/82. I pop another 5mg and recheck 4-5 hours later and it’s 120-117/71-69. Stopped hgh from that day on. Got cbc and cmp. BUN and something else were slightly elevated on cmp. CBC was RBC, Hcr, and Hemoglobin. Took 20mg Friday and Saturday and it ranged from 125-120/84-79. RHR came down 90-96. Donated blood today (Sunday) and RHR seems down to 84-90 but blood pressure has ranged from 131-125/84-88. I am hydrated as well. I just added another 5mg lisinopril and took 10mg cialis. I did pin test today in the morning.

I’ve taken Tren , anadrol, and Superdrol and never had this issue. 40mg Superdrol and 20mg lisinopril and I was 120’s over 70’s. I’ve had higher test and never had this issue. I’m on 500 test C and my estrogen is low. What the fuck is going on? I ordered some nebivilol to try and help with my RHR.
Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Probably going come off because I don’t have a clue what’s going on. I usually take my morning readings around the same time but not all afternoon/evening readings are at the same time.

I did move my calories up so I’m closer to maintenance now about 2-3 weeks ago. More fats and carbs essentially.

Did I miss how you were able to tank your E2? From what I read Test C and GH are the only compounds you are taking.

Also, if that continues you should go see your primary care doctor. Popping more pills to get control of your RHR is not the safe way forward.

 

[Gbunk]

Ya those are around what my levels were too. But I never broke 54 hema.
I had to do a double red donation to lower them. Seems your BP has stabilized

Don’t run your E2 into the ground, it’ll give you crazy anxiety and make all of this worse. I did that a while back on 500 test 300 EQ. Had the worst panic attacks about my heart lol

My nips are sore and that’s the only way I have found to stop that unfortunately.

My BP is all over the place the last handful of days, just because it was good this morning doesn’t mean a lot.

From my understanding, donating brings hemoglobin and hematocrit a bit so I think I would be upper normal now. Correct me If I’m wrong. I will get labs in a couple weeks.

 

[Gbunk]

Did I miss how you were able to tank your E2? From what I read Test C and GH are the only compounds you are taking.

Also, if that continues you should go see your primary care doctor. Popping more pills to get control of your RHR is not the safe way forward.

When my nips flare up I have to take raloxifene and letrozol unfortunately. Only thing I have found to help.

No, I stopped gh, just test.

I’m in between jobs and my insurence won’t be active till august 1st unfortunately. My RHR is good off cycle and so is my BP. I don’t know what is causing all these issues.

 

[Gbunk]

I’ve also noticed that my face may be slightly red but my arms definitely seem more red unless I’m using me arms then the redness goes away.

 

[Tbaz192]

So sore nips doesn’t necessarily mean high E2.
I would go based off labs before taking letro. And possibly crashing your e2

When my e2 is high. I have slightly more anxiety, bloated/more water weight, lack of libido/erection, and my sleep turns into wanting to over sleep a lot more than usual, I also get dizzy/weak, and itchy.

Which unfortunately low e2 can also have similar sides. Different for everyone.

IMO. A regular schedule of a lesser strength AI would probably be better. Ex: Aromasin x2 a week. Or Adex

 

[Tbaz192]

Also food for thought, I have iron issues. And when my ferritin is low. It directly affects my cardiovascular system. My BP/Heart rate gets weird. I get winded and weak very fast.
Fatigued 24/7

Being on TRT and blasting cycles has wrecked my ferritin. Since every injection has to use iron/ferritin to create more red blood cells.
Currently my ferritin tested at 13. Anemic levels. @6’3 230

Worth also getting labs for.
So many things can cause A LOT of issues. It’s a pain. But it’s the name of the game with high doses.

 

[Gbunk]

So sore nips doesn’t necessarily mean high E2.
I would go based off labs before taking letro. And possibly crashing your e2

When my e2 is high. I have slightly more anxiety, bloated/more water weight, lack of libido/erection, and my sleep turns into wanting to over sleep a lot more than usual, I also get dizzy/weak, and itchy.

Which unfortunately low e2 can also have similar sides. Different for everyone.

IMO. A regular schedule of a lesser strength AI would probably be better. Ex: Aromasin x2 a week. Or Adex

I was trying to play with my AI dosage of adex and got gyno symptoms. Unfortunately I was unable to get labs during this time like I wanted to. I wish I had got my ferritin and iron done with those labs. I got my thyroid done and 2/3 resulted tests are normal.

 

[Tbaz192]

I was trying to play with my AI dosage of adex and got gyno symptoms. Unfortunately I was unable to get labs during this time like I wanted to. I wish I had got my ferritin and iron done with those labs. I got my thyroid done and 2/3 resulted tests are normal.

Interesting. Wonder if the gyno is from the GH. Some people are prone to gyno symptoms from GH usage. If I remember correctly. Which sucks.

What worked for me when it came to dialing in my E2. I slowly increased my test dose. Keeping an eye on high e2 symptoms. Once I figured out what dose / dose schedule had my e2 elevate.
Labs on TRT dose. Labs a few weeks in on a higher dose. Labs 48 hours after an AI.

I’m highly sensitive to everything. Where as some people can blast and blast and be fine. Hate those people lol

 

[Gbunk]

Interesting. Wonder if the gyno is from the GH. Some people are prone to gyno symptoms from GH usage. If I remember correctly. Which sucks.

What worked for me when it came to dialing in my E2. I slowly increased my test dose. Keeping an eye on high e2 symptoms. Once I figured out what dose / dose schedule had my e2 elevate.
Labs on TRT dose. Labs a few weeks in on a higher dose. Labs 48 hours after an AI.

I’m highly sensitive to everything. Where as some people can blast and blast and be fine. Hate those people lol

No it came prior to me starting gh. I was trying to dial in my dose based off e2 symptoms.

 

[Gbunk]

Maybe this is worth mentioning but I tore my pec probably grade II about three weeks ago and I’m suppose to start a new job soon. I’m stressed but I don’t feel super stressed.

 

[Tbaz192]

Maybe this is worth mentioning but I tore my pec probably grade II about three weeks ago and I’m suppose to start a new job soon. I’m stressed but I don’t feel super stressed.

Fuck that’s rough man. Definitely a good time for a break/recovery

 

[krvuxn]

Maybe this is worth mentioning but I tore my pec probably grade II about three weeks ago and I’m suppose to start a new job soon. I’m stressed but I don’t feel super stressed.

I was going to say, this sounds more like anxiety than anything drug related.

 

[Gbunk]

Fuck that’s rough man. Definitely a good time for a break/

Definitely a rough time

 

[Gbunk]

I was going to say, this sounds more like anxiety than anything drug related.

I don’t feel like my anxiety is that bad. Regardless, no way my BP should be that bad. Let alone when using a BP med like I am there has to be something else.

 

[CorgisOnTren]

First off I’d calm down. You’re clearly stressed like mad about this and that’s only going to make your RHR and BP worse. No one’s heart and kidneys were destroyed by bad health markers for a few days, weeks, or even months. That comes from years of abuse.

Secondly, you say you crashed your estrogen. Low estrogen can have some wonky effects on hydration/electrolyte balance, so I’d look there.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Secondly, you say you crashed your estrogen. Low estrogen can have some wonky effects on hydration/electrolyte balance, so I’d look there.

Crashed my estrogen once and literally thought the world was ending, I have never felt like that in my entire life including in some genuinely life threatening times. Also did something to my blood pressure I had never seen before.

All over a bad time. Crashed estrogen -> Nasty stuff.