Research chems:
SR-9009 30mg, injected 2-3x per day
GW-510516 8mg, injected once per day
Retatrutide 4mg, injected three times per week
Where do you source your injectable RCs?
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Research chems:
SR-9009 30mg, injected 2-3x per day
GW-510516 8mg, injected once per day
Retatrutide 4mg, injected three times per week
Pharma:
Azilsartan 80mg, once daily pm
Celnip-T (ciilnidipine/telmisartan) 10/40mg once daily am
Ivabradine 5mg split am//pm (will likely increase to 10mg/day)
Yes right now using two ARB. Mainly because the best price I could find on cilnidipine was for the 10/40 combo. And the extra telmi is active during the day when the azilsartan is fading. I know some people who use 120mg telmi per day but not sure there is much benefit > 80 mg alone or combined.You are on 2 ARBs? Azil and Tel?
I have CILNAY-NB from this source 10/5 ciilnidipine/nebivolol. ~$2/strip.
The max IVA i've seen prescribed is 7.5mg, how are you getting 10mg?
Why reta 3x a week?
Yes right now using two ARB. Mainly because the best price I could find on cilnidipine was for the 10/40 combo. And the extra telmi is active during the day when the azilsartan is fading. I know some people who use 120mg telmi per day but not sure there is much benefit > 80 mg alone or combined.
I got 5mg ivabradine tabs, they are US pharma and scored. Right now I’m breaking in half and taking 2.5 am and 2.5 pm, might try increase to 5mg am and 5mg pm for 10mg total per day.
If you don’t mind can you pm your source for the Cilnay?
I use Modern Aminos SR9009 50mg/mlWhere do you source your injectable RCs?
I agree entirely. The advantage of azilsartan is the longer activity on the AR. The PPAR effect is better with telmi.I don't think two ARB's are necessary. Especially with AZ which is ultra strong at max dose. Sure, it's half life isn't as long as tele, but it binds for a longer period of time to the AR that any other ARB's. Meaning that it keeps working one it binds for a longer period of time.
Hence there is a bit more to a drug that simply its elimination half life. I mean you can do it, but I think it would be overkill.
PCT does have it. Both the 40 and 80mg versions. By the same company that has FDA approval to make the generic version in the USA once it is legal to do so. A lot less expensive than the brand name Edarbi US version.we
I agree entirely. The advantage of azilsartan is the longer activity on the AR. The PPAR effect is better with telmi.
Definitely no good reason to be using both, but at least among the ones pct24x7 has on the price list, the combo pill was the best priced and I don’t think the extra telmi will cause any problem.
The azilsartan is $50/mi via manufacturer program (insurance of course excludes it) so I might d/c altogether when my supply runs out. Not sure if it is available as an Indian generic, but have noticed it on a few other price lists so maybe it is?
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I agree entirely. The advantage of azilsartan is the longer activity on the AR. The PPAR effect is better with telmi.
Definitely no good reason to be using both, but at least among the ones pct24x7 has on the price list, the combo pill was the best priced and I don’t think the extra telmi will cause any problem.
The azilsartan is $50/mi via manufacturer program (insurance of course excludes it) so I might d/c altogether when my supply runs out. Not sure if it is available as an Indian generic, but have noticed it on a few other price lists so maybe it is?
Great to know, thank you. just ordered a few boxes of the Celnip-T but will do the Azil/Clinidipine next time there is a sale. An 80/10 would be nice but could just double up the 40/5 obviously, and it's generally better to split doses am/pm for unless there is an issue with sleep.You can msg this source for the combo pill.
Azil + Cilnidipine
either 40/5 or 40/10
~$3-4/strip
Azil 80 by itself is ~3-4/strip.
Thanks flor sharing. Just curious why multiple drugs in the same class? Also why would something like ivabrandine be necessary?... unless u have an irregular heart rhythm?Probably have had 20+ orders with PCT24x7 now. Had one pack taken by customs, and he reshipped before I even got the CBP letter.
[Aeroz is good source for specific meds PCT cannot ship, which I use for airplane trips]
Recent PCT24x7 orders included some unlisted drugs he sourced for me including ivabradine and pitavastatin. Turns out I am able to get the ivabradine cheaper via prescription with insurance here in USA, but not pitavastatin (excluded by insurance, there is a manufacturer program via NC pharmacy but they refuse self-written prescriptions for some reason). Last order was for multiple boxes of Celnip-T 10/40mg and pitavastatin 4mg.
This is my current cardiovascular stack - thanks to @Ghoul for improving it. I was diagnosed with diastolic hypertension in my 50s before using PEDs btw, and put on azilsartan for that by a cardiologist. Echo and stress test normal, CCT score = 0. I have an overactive sympathetic nervous system and suppressed vagal system from using GLP1s.
Pharma:
Azilsartan 80mg, once daily pm
Celnip-T (ciilnidipine/telmisartan) 10/40mg once daily am
Ivabradine 5mg split am//pm (will likely increase to 10mg/day)
Ezetimibe 10mg, once daily am
Pitavastatin 4mg, once daily pm
Jardiance (empoglafozin) 10mg, once daily am
Taladalfil 10mg, once daily am
Sildenafil 100mg, once daily pm
(Discontinued: Nebivolol 10mg, once daily am; will use only if taking short term clenbuterol)
Research chems:
SR-9009 30mg, injected 2-3x per day
GW-510516 8mg, injected once per day
Retatrutide 4mg, injected three times per week
Supplements:
Ubiquinol 600mg/day
Pycnogenol 200mg/day
L-citrulline 7.5g/day
This keeps my blood pressure between 120/80 day and 110/60 night, RHR in 65-75 range, LDL/HDL ratio < 1.2, and maximizes NO2.
again I was mainly buying the cilnidipine, the telisartan was a freebie. in the future I won't be combining ARBs, will stick with azilsartan or telmisartan, just doing so now since I have both on hand (Edarbi + Cilnep-T) and they are not harmful in combination. Any extra lowering of BP is pretty minimal past 80mg; 40-80mg is the efficacy sweet spot for both drugs.Thanks flor sharing. Just curious why multiple drugs in the same class? Also why would something like ivabrandine be necessary?... unless u have an irregular heart rhythm?
@Whistles77, is this reference sheet still available? I’m getting an empty sheet using mobile Chrome or DDG.I'm not sure if this is helpful to anyone, or even allowed, but i built a list of pricelist subheadings and what they do and my own interest. Might be helpful to people.
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Same here@Whistles77, is this reference sheet still available? I’m getting an empty sheet using mobile Chrome or DDG.
Thanks.
@Whistles77, is this reference sheet still available? I’m getting an empty sheet using mobile Chrome or DDG.
Thanks.
Same here
Totally understand this. Apologies if you mentioned this and I missed it, but considering this I hope you're at least going beta blocker as a first line before something like Ivabradine.again I was mainly buying the cilnidipine, the telisartan was a freebie. in the future I won't be combining ARBs, will stick with azilsartan or telmisartan, just doing so now since I have both on hand (Edarbi + Cilnep-T) and they are not harmful in combination. Any extra lowering of BP is pretty minimal past 80mg; 40-80mg is the efficacy sweet spot for both drugs.
my RHR was higher than I like on androgens, plus GH & Reta. Not excessively high and no arrhythmia, but sometimes I notice it when I'm trying to fall asleep - and just don't like it in the 80s when I'm sitting around. ivabradine lowered it without any unwanted effects that I can discern, so I use it now.
in reality anything we take that reduces stress on the heart / cardiovascular system without causing other problems (i.e. dizziness, execise intolerance, ED) is a good way to mitigate the greatest single risk for PED users.
Totally understand this. Apologies if you mentioned this and I missed it, but considering this I hope you're at least going beta blocker as a first line before something like Ivabradine.
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