Injectable ferritine(iron dextrane) question

[bossetti]

Ok guys,now that i aknowledge that doing an order off indiamart(and india in general) is too risky for us europeans (at least from what i seen) i have foumd alternative sources for most of the things i needed(some of them i know are impossible to get lol) but others like iron dextrane i think they should be easy to get, i found it on sale for veterinary use but idk if its good for humans lol, if not probably pharmacies dont really care about it and its possible to buy it without prescription but idk

 

[Nidus]

Ok guys,now that i aknowledge that doing an order off indiamart(and india in general) is too risky for us europeans (at least from what i seen) i have foumd alternative sources for most of the things i needed(some of them i know are impossible to get lol) but others like iron dextrane i think they should be easy to get, i found it on sale for veterinary use but idk if its good for humans lol, if not probably pharmacies dont really care about it and its possible to buy it without prescription but idk

All the iron injections are prescription only, if you decide to go for one add some Vit B2, B6, B12 and high doses of Vit C on top.

Doctors here usually give you 2G of Vit C for every 50mg Iron and about 1-2mg B12, 50mg B2 and B6 on top per IV

 

[bossetti]

All the iron injections are prescription only, if you decide to go for one add some Vit B2, B6, B12 and high doses of Vit C on top.

Doctors here usually give you 2G of Vit C for every 50mg Iron and about 1-2mg B12, 50mg B2 and B6 on top per IV

I think that iron dextrane can be do im am i right?

 

[Nidus]

I think that iron dextrane can be do im am i right?

Iron infusion can be crazy painful IM, thats why its diluted well injectable water, some Vit C and B Vits on top to make it smoother and more systematic

 

[bossetti]

Iron infusion can be crazy painful IM, thats why its diluted well injectable water, some Vit C and B Vits on top to make it smoother and more systematic

You mean for the im injection right?
The veterinary one is the same thing?

 

[Nidus]

You mean for the im injection right?
The veterinary one is the same thing?

Not sure about veterinary, my doc used the normal one for humans called Ferinject.

 

[bossetti]

Not sure about veterinary, my doc used the normal one for humans called Ferinject.

Bc i normally have relaatively low iron (70) but now that i feel that with training im out of range and i want to be as fast as possible and also have to load iron over normal ranges

 

[Nidus]

Bc i normally have relaatively low iron (70) but now that i feel that with training im out of range and i want to be as fast as possible and also have to load iron over normal ranges

Same here, i always struggled having higher iron, luckily i could improve this greatly by adding in B-Vitamin injections every 2 weeks and just adding 2g of Vit C daily (orally). Whenever i donate blood my iron levels go brrrrrrrrrrrrrt in the lowest of low

 

[bossetti]

Same here, i always struggled having higher iron, luckily i could improve this greatly by adding in B-Vitamin injections every 2 weeks and just adding 2g of Vit C daily (orally). Whenever i donate blood my iron levels go brrrrrrrrrrrrrt in the lowest of low

I am not really low but if i want to have high hct yes im low lol
Im not gonna donate blood not because im selfish but it damage too much performance

 

[bossetti]

@Ghoul u know something more?

 

[Ghoul]

@Ghoul u know something more?

The animal versions are prescription only in the EU too. They are similar to the human formulations, but more concentrated and of course, not approved (but would probably be fine, all the brands I looked like use the same ingredients approved for human use).

If I were you, I'd order a small quantity of ampules from India. They'll send it in an envelope, which usually get through customs easily because it's so small.

Only risking 10€ (with shipping) or less on something like this. I think it's worth a try:

 

[bossetti]

The animal versions are prescription only in the EU too. They are similar to the human formulations, but more concentrated and of course, not approved (but would probably be fine, all the brands I looked like use the same ingredients approved for human use).

If I were you, I'd order a small quantity of ampules from India. They'll send it in an envelope, which usually get through customs easily because it's so small.

Only risking 10€ (with shipping) or less on something like this. I think it's worth a try:

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Thanks, u suggest iv or im i think iv should be done with infusion and a bag?(ofc i cant do it)
Btw fuck gay eu
Maybe i can try to go to some pharmacy and ask them if they sell it without prescription for lot of products works (my mom buy cortisone pills like its candies) but maybe with iv products its different

 

[Ghoul]

Thanks, u suggest iv or im i think iv should be done with infusion and a bag?(ofc i cant do it)
Btw fuck gay eu
Maybe i can try to go to some pharmacy and ask them if they sell it without prescription for lot of products works (my mom buy cortisone pills like its candies) but maybe with iv products its different

Sorry man, I don't know shit about IV.

 

[BabaJagga]

Thanks, u suggest iv or im i think iv should be done with infusion and a bag?(ofc i cant do it)
Btw fuck gay eu
Maybe i can try to go to some pharmacy and ask them if they sell it without prescription for lot of products works (my mom buy cortisone pills like its candies) but maybe with iv products its different

i would go for iv route...

 

[bossetti]

Sorry man, I don't know shit about IV.

Soo im is the way?
Should be painful but if its not huge i dont really care also talking about injection site i know its not the norm but its possible to do it to the arms like a flu shot? Because i dont want to ruin training with legs lol

 

[BabaJagga]

Soo im is the way?
Should be painful but if its not huge i dont really care also talking about injection site i know its not the norm but its possible to do it to the arms like a flu shot? Because i dont want to ruin training with legs lol

depends how much u wanna inject i guess. not sure if its wise to shoot 1ml or more into cyclist's delts. i would go for quads/glutes.

if its smaller volume than delts.

but still, i think iv is better...

 

[bossetti]

depends how much u wanna inject i guess. not sure if its wise to shoot 1ml or more into cyclist's delts. i would go for quads/glutes.

if its smaller volume than delts.

but still, i think iv is better...

But iv i should do it with a bag for infusions its a long process that should be monitored at least by a nurse i think

 

[BabaJagga]

But iv i should do it with a bag for infusions its a long process that should be monitored at least by a nurse i think

yea, you pay few € to nurse and you have cleanest route. i have friend that is doin vitamins and minerals via iv route. nurse plug him with it for while and its drippin.

 

[bossetti]

yea, you pay few € to nurse and you have cleanest route. i have friend that is doin vitamins and minerals via iv route. nurse plug him with it for while and its drippin.

U know how much?
Btw i think for me its not possible in the end

 

[BabaJagga]

U know how much?
Btw i think for me its not possible in the end

i have no idea. you dont have any nurse friend? or friend of a friend?