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[glpfun]

Everything reminds me of her…

 

[Mma67]

Yeah I get that, and that's why I said it's probably fine for my vial to sit for that long on the fridge. But I have to agree with what @CharlesV said and wonder what kind of usage people are getting out of semaglutide that they'd need 2.4 mg per shot and beyond. I guess at those doses a 30 mg vial isn't that bad (about 13 weeks). The real question being who's the kamikaze who wants/needs to go above that. But importing and injecting illegal UGL drugs is already a huge risk to begin with all things considered so I guess the jump to injecting them at doses not tested or recommended is not that far lol

Using them for "group/family" pinnings might also be the reason. I could see an argument for buying one of those kits between like 4-5 people and sharing a vial. So long as sterility is at least properly maintained (aka no sharing or reusing needles and cleaning the top of the vial every time) there's probably not that much more risk. Would make it dirt cheap, but then there's the argument that you shouldn't be messing around with this stuff unless you got plenty of cash to spare on it

Reminds me of South Park: The End of Obesity.

Everybody gathers at parties to do GLP1 drugs. The song “Cry Little Sister” from the lost boys starts playing and Randy crosses into the dark side and gets “high.”

 

[CharlesV]

had someone I was helping once who wasnt the brightest bulb. I would reconstitute an entire vial for them with the understanding that they would split their doses over time. Except when your dumb and cant measure accurately on the syringe (a little bit more here and there) and then oopsies the very last dose doesnt have as much as it should.

i really try to keep all this on the down low IRL. but the few times i have broken down and helped a friend out? the amount of time and energy spent on how to reconstitute and measure properly is f’ing insane. just like you said…making sure the mgs in the vial match the syringe for the easiest use? and they still get it completely wrong. every freaking time.

it’s no wonder pharma makes custom delivery method and takes all the thinking out of the process. “take 2 units”, actual amounts be damned.

 

[bananafeet]

i really try to keep all this on the down low IRL. but the few times i have broken down and helped a friend out? the amount of time and energy spent on how to reconstitute and measure properly is f’ing insane. just like you said…making sure the mgs in the vial match the syringe for the easiest use? and they still get it completely wrong. every freaking time.

it’s no wonder pharma makes custom delivery method and takes all the thinking out of the process. “take 2 units”, actual amounts be damned.

Spoon feeding people always backfires. Remember we live in a litigious society and no good deed goes unpunished.

 

[phenominal34]

I had someone I was helping once who wasnt the brightest bulb. I would reconstitute an entire vial for them with the understanding that they would split their doses over time. Except when your dumb and cant measure accurately on the syringe (a little bit more here and there) and then oopsies the very last dose doesnt have as much as it should. Had to actually buy 1ml vials online and SPLIT the whole vial into a bunch of small ones for them as ridiculous as that even sounds.

Why not just prefill syringes ?

 

[Clover 0080]

Why not just prefill syringes ?

Because then they would uncap them and again lose everything inside. I had to literally make it fool proof
"Take a vial week and don't touch the rest even if your bored".

 

[CharlesV]

Spoon feeding people always backfires.

this really is the lesson.

 

[Clover 0080]

i really try to keep all this on the down low IRL. but the few times i have broken down and helped a friend out? the amount of time and energy spent on how to reconstitute and measure properly is f’ing insane. just like you said…making sure the mgs in the vial match the syringe for the easiest use? and they still get it completely wrong. every freaking time.

it’s no wonder pharma makes custom delivery method and takes all the thinking out of the process. “take 2 units”, actual amounts be damned.

And big pharma keeping pens "7 days apart" is specifically for the general population who couldnt remember when to take their next shot. Realistically glp1s can be taken every 5 days but that would be too difficult for someone to remember. Tell them to take it the same day every week and they can manage that though.

 

[mknodc13]

Because then they would uncap them and again lose everything inside. I had to literally make it fool proof
"Take a vial week and don't touch the rest even if your bored".

Why uncap? Pull the plunger out of the back, fill and put the plunger back in.

 

[Clover 0080]

Spoon feeding people always backfires. Remember we live in a litigious society and no good deed goes unpunished.

Like ghoul routinely points out and i always forget.... Eventually someone down the road is going to get cancer or something worse and blame it on that one teeny tiny time you helped them out by giving them shady things off the internet. Lawsuit. Should be making friends and family sign an idiot waiver before helping them get healthy apparently. As hard as it is to watch people struggle i keep all this to myself now. its not worth the headache and the accusations of giving them bunk stuff anyway.

 

[Clover 0080]

Why uncap? Pull the plunger out of the back, fill and put the plunger back in.

Also giving out syringes with pre-filled stuff inside is more risky then simply handing them a vial with no instructions on it. If it ever did come to legal problems..

 

[CharlesV]

And big pharma keeping pens "7 days apart" is specifically for the general population who couldnt remember when to take their next shot.

i’ve read this too. it makes total sense though. based on my limited field research, people are stupid with this stuff.

 

[glpfun]

Like ghoul routinely points out and i always forget.... Eventually someone down the road is going to get cancer or something worse and blame it on that one teeny tiny time you helped them out by giving them shady things off the internet. Lawsuit. Should be making friends and family sign an idiot waiver before helping them get healthy apparently. As hard as it is to watch people struggle i keep all this to myself now. its not worth the headache and the accusations of giving them bunk stuff anyway.

Spoon feeding people anonymously online is literally never going to lead to this. The culture on meso that is anti spoon feeding is counter to actual harm reduction because now they’re going to buy from some garbage source. If someone asks for a source I have no problem giving it to them. They don’t know who I am or where I live or anything and no judge is going to entertain “some guy on an illegal drug forum recommended a source 10 years ago so they are responsible for everything that happened afterwards”. Demonstrate some precedent or stop fear mongering.

 

[Grey Spartan]

i really try to keep all this on the down low IRL. but the few times i have broken down and helped a friend out? the amount of time and energy spent on how to reconstitute and measure properly is f’ing insane. just like you said…making sure the mgs in the vial match the syringe for the easiest use? and they still get it completely wrong. every freaking time.

it’s no wonder pharma makes custom delivery method and takes all the thinking out of the process. “take 2 units”, actual amounts be damned.

This is why MOST people should avoid insulin.
You say "take 2 units"
They come back all fucked up hypo with gummies hanging out their pocket. You ask "what happened"
They say "I did what you said and injected 2 units"
You say "show me" they fill the syringe to 20.

 

[BP_6]

This is why MOST people should avoid insulin.
You say "take 2 units"
They come back all fucked up hypo with gummies hanging out their pocket. You ask "what happened"
They say "I did what you said and injected 2 units"
You say "show me" they fill the syringe to 20.

Seen the exact same thing before. People screwing up measurements with insulin syringes. Never ceases to amaze me how many gym "meatheads" i have talked to that can't even comprehend basic math and measuring concepts and gives the rest of us the bad reputation of being stupid.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Know of any Chinese ones that sell bulk powder? These Indian ones seem pretty expensive compared to QSC or SSA. SSA just discontinued it.

i never understood why people would choose to buy bulk powder from india on pharma like this.

its really not that expensive. Are you even going to test the powder?

 

[Clover 0080]

Spoon feeding people anonymously online is literally never going to lead to this. The culture on meso that is anti spoon feeding is counter to actual harm reduction because now they’re going to buy from some garbage source. If someone asks for a source I have no problem giving it to them. They don’t know who I am or where I live or anything and no judge is going to entertain “some guy on an illegal drug forum recommended a source 10 years ago so they are responsible for everything that happened afterwards”. Demonstrate some precedent or stop fear mongering.

i wasn't talking about spoon feeding anonymous people online.

 

[CubanQuentin]

i really try to keep all this on the down low IRL. but the few times i have broken down and helped a friend out? the amount of time and energy spent on how to reconstitute and measure properly is f’ing insane. just like you said…making sure the mgs in the vial match the syringe for the easiest use? and they still get it completely wrong. every freaking time.

it’s no wonder pharma makes custom delivery method and takes all the thinking out of the process. “take 2 units”, actual amounts be damned.

Spoon feeding people anonymously online is literally never going to lead to this. The culture on meso that is anti spoon feeding is counter to actual harm reduction because now they’re going to buy from some garbage source. If someone asks for a source I have no problem giving it to them. They don’t know who I am or where I live or anything and no judge is going to entertain “some guy on an illegal drug forum recommended a source 10 years ago so they are responsible for everything that happened afterwards”. Demonstrate some precedent or stop fear mongering.

You could think of it that way. I think that forcing people to do their own research forces them to learn *how* to do reseach, a skill that's sorely lacking in today's society. Some people will "fall off the wagon" and instead of researching anything will hop on lord knows what cycle from lord knows what provider and get hurt, scammed, or both... but chances are those people were gonna end up like that regardless. All of this goes back to the fact that most PED users shouldn't even be touching anything, at least not at their current situation, but that's a different discussion

 

[glpfun]

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You could think of it that way. I think that forcing people to do their own research forces them to learn *how* to do reseach, a skill that's sorely lacking in today's society. Some people will "fall off the wagon" and instead of researching anything will hop on lord knows what cycle from lord knows what provider and get hurt, scammed, or both... but chances are those people were gonna end up like that regardless. All of this goes back to the fact that most PED users shouldn't even be touching anything, at least not at their current situation, but that's a different discussion

The reality is most either aren’t going to do the research or don’t know how. This is why real harm reduction is such a tough pill for people to swallow. You have to accept the lowest common denominator is the norm and work with that. If you don’t give them a good source most will just pick a bad source. I see it happen every day here. We have shit vendors here who basically rely on this dynamic to get business. So who are we helping?

 

[CharlesV]

If someone asks for a source I have no problem giving it to them.

i’ve done that before with a source that was batting 100% for me. and wouldn’t you know, some dumb shit happened where they didn’t get their order and spent months pulling teeth trying to get it. as solid as a lot these sources are, none of them are Amazon reliable. i’ll happily share my experiences in thread, but stop short of giving recs or answering those questions or DM’s anymore.