Testing groups

[verylargeshoes]

So there's been some discussion about people "leeching" off others' testing, as well as hints that there are groups of people group testing products. But it seems very underground in the underground. I haven't seen any open calls for participation or registration, etc. I've even seen some (maybe humorous?) snide remarks about how we don't do things like the peptide communities do.

I'm curious as to why. It seems like a good way to share costs, increase test coverage, and generally reduce harm. But I might be missing something. Is there a reason that individual testing is more common here, or for groups to be more secretive and exclusive? Is everybody but me just such a high roller buying huge quantities that these aren't significant benefits?

 

[IndividualMan]

as far as i know, to be in a group you have to participate, and provide test reports, or take part in group buys, for example. You can always start up a new group if you would like, but it takes a bit to find/coordinate with people.

edit: rambling
also, fuck that wannabe entrepreneur "sharing" his app. stuff like that just puts unnecessary attention on vendors and labs. Its getting everyone closer to being vulnerable like those IG/facebook "sources" by creating unwanted attention. It just takes a few bored journalists finding some stuff, a few cops/actual investigators looking closer and people will be all over the news.

 

[grey]

So there's been some discussion about people "leeching" off others' testing, as well as hints that there are groups of people group testing products. But it seems very underground in the underground. I haven't seen any open calls for participation or registration, etc. I've even seen some (maybe humorous?) snide remarks about how we don't do things like the peptide communities do.

So we had VERY large group testing done via the Anabolic labs project and Jano's site is also providing tons of test results even beyond the dozens that get posted here every week.

We are fucking AWASH in testing wealth right now compared to 10+ years ago when 99% of what we had was photoshopped bullshit from Roidsource or people trying to figure out in their test vial was "like green green or like yellowish green?"

We also use to have to walk uphill both ways to post here.

 

[mknodc13]

Is there a reason that individual testing is more common here, or for groups to be more secretive and exclusive? Is everybody but me just such a high roller buying huge quantities that these aren't significant benefits?

Speaking for myself, the cost of testing oils is low enough that I just calculate it into the total when ordering oils.
Testing peptides is a lot more expensive so I’m more inclined to go the group testing route.

 

[AlexDavis43]

So there's been some discussion about people "leeching" off others' testing, as well as hints that there are groups of people group testing products. But it seems very underground in the underground. I haven't seen any open calls for participation or registration, etc. I've even seen some (maybe humorous?) snide remarks about how we don't do things like the peptide communities do.

I'm curious as to why. It seems like a good way to share costs, increase test coverage, and generally reduce harm. But I might be missing something. Is there a reason that individual testing is more common here, or for groups to be more secretive and exclusive? Is everybody but me just such a high roller buying huge quantities that these aren't significant benefits?

Here is how it went at least one time in the past and no one complained. I know it seems cynical.

You have some gear you want tested. Volunteer to organize testing of a few products. You actually have to do some work.

Open it up for donations, anyone who wants to see the results has to pay. This part works well if you're testing a popular source's gear.

The donations can go to you first so you can take out the cost of shipping before forwarding the testing costs to Jano. Yes you could easily make a profit. It's impossible for us to know but no one really cares bc no one spent thousands of dollars. It's all small donations.

Voila.

 

[Zeke00]

Are there any well known discord or telegram testing groups for AAS? Not looking for free results, just curious if anything exists that facilitates organizing groups, testing, payments, etc. Similar to PTDS for peptides.

 

[BigTomJ]

If you aren't a reseller, or connected to resellers or groups of resellers, you likely won't find worthwhile testing groups for AAS like you will for peptides.

For AAS it's just as simple as making a thread of "I have XYZ lab's 123 product, who wants to get in on testing?"
And that's only if the lab doesn't offer a testing credit, and all the ones worth ordering from do.

 

[verylargeshoes]

I'm not really buying enough to give up a whole 10mL vial for testing every order, and I did know of want to ride along on an existing test for the "see one, do one, teach one" way of learning. Also, when it comes to getting people to pitch in, who the fuck am I? No track record yet.

I did offer to split the testing of some WWB Prmo with another member recently, but he just shared the results gratis. Very generous, but I do want to pay my fair share. Though without any batch numbers or any other way to see if we're testing the same product, I guess group testing is kind of risky.

Anyway, I appreciate all the advice from those who know the ropes. Thank you!

 

[verylargeshoes]

Speaking for myself, the cost of testing oils is low enough that I just calculate it into the total when ordering oils.
Testing peptides is a lot more expensive so I’m more inclined to go the group testing route.

Makes sense, at least when I'm buying big enough quantities. Are you testing sealed vials or little samplers?

 

[BigTomJ]

I'm not really buying enough to give up a whole 10mL vial for testing every order, and I did know of want to ride along on an existing test for the "see one, do one, teach one" way of learning. Also, when it comes to getting people to pitch in, who the fuck am I? No track record yet.

I did offer to split the testing of some WWB Prmo with another member recently, but he just shared the results gratis. Very generous, but I do want to pay my fair share. Though without any batch numbers or any other way to see if we're testing the same product, I guess group testing is kind of risky.

Anyway, I appreciate all the advice from those who know the ropes. Thank you!

You don't need to give 10ml btw.

Aas testing you just put 1-2ml in a perfume sample vial and send it in that

 

[verylargeshoes]

You don't need to give 10ml btw.

Aas testing you just put 1-2ml in a perfume sample vial and send it in that

Will most sources give credit for that?

 

[BigTomJ]

Will most sources give credit for that?

Yes, that's what janoshik tells you to send.

 

[Pupil B]

I'm not really buying enough to give up a whole 10mL vial for testing every order, and I did know of want to ride along on an existing test for the "see one, do one, teach one" way of learning. Also, when it comes to getting people to pitch in, who the fuck am I? No track record yet.

I did offer to split the testing of some WWB Prmo with another member recently, but he just shared the results gratis. Very generous, but I do want to pay my fair share. Though without any batch numbers or any other way to see if we're testing the same product, I guess group testing is kind of risky.

Anyway, I appreciate all the advice from those who know the ropes. Thank you!

Where do you see the wwb primo results? I just ordered a kit. Please, lol. In this climate paranoid about it being fake.

 

[Photon]

Where do you see the wwb primo results? I just ordered a kit. Please, lol. In this climate paranoid about it being fake.

I believe it went in and out of stock.
If you just ordered a kit, it's probably a new batch.

 

[Pupil B]

I believe it went in and out of stock.
If you just ordered a kit, it's probably a new batch.

I see . Were you told results privately or are they posted somewhere?Do you remember the numbers of the old results?

 

[thejumpingsheep]

I believe it went in and out of stock.
If you just ordered a kit, it's probably a new batch.

Not sure about that. I ordered a kit on Friday and got it today. They told me it was the same batch from last year. I had my doubts but I can always send it for testing if I have to.

When did you guys get the testing done? And who has it? Im willing to pay a little for recent results. If not, I can send it in and do some sort of community powwow.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Not sure about that. I ordered a kit on Friday and got it today. They told me it was the same batch from last year. I had my doubts but I can always send it for testing if I have to.

When did you guys get the testing done? And who has it? Im willing to pay a little for recent results. If not, I can send it in and do some sort of community powwow.

I have some fresh out of the Fedex box WWB Primo E200 if anybody wants to split testing costs.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Ok im in if you want to split it. Ill send you a pm in a minute to get info.

 

[joeyliftss]

i'm interested in this too. we have STG for all the peptides.. can we have anabolic testing groups too?

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