Blessed by the gear gods? Random pack arrives from unknown source on same day as actual expected pack. Does anyone recognize the labels?

[biggerben69]

The order was from me. Customer sent an order request with shipping details. I packaged order and sent out order before receiving payment. I never ended up receiving payment. I expect people to be interested in an order once they send me a request with their shipping information. But this was solely my fault for not waiting for payment. This will not happen again under any circumstances.

I spoke with @CraneKraken and told him to keep the order because I was the person that made the mistake. His original order was 4 TC and 1 Dbol. So the order was short 1 TC.

I made this post because I want to be clear and honest. I do not want customers to think they are gettin random packages from me. Please, only send an order request if you have funds ready to pay. I know life happens and plans change.

I’m a little late coming across this thread. If things went the way the source says they diid with the customer sending the request along with his shipping info and IF the source sent his instructions for payment the customer at this point is on the hook to complete the transaction. If he doesn’t send payment the “customer” could and should be labeled an “Info Collector”. In days gone by, this would find the guy catching a ban from the board the infraction took place on as well as not being able to order from the source in the future.

The customer’s info would also be passed to other sources in hopes of containing the trouble maker. The source should have this policy posted someplace.

Some boards would post the info collectors pertinent info in the open for all to see. It was a serious issue and security threat.

Maybe it’s not considered an issue these days? The op obviously doesn’t consider it or anything having to with this mystery pkg an issue. “Gear Gods” and his other attempts to be cute make that clear.

Being coy and claiming to be completely in the dark about things? How’s that? He placed the order and did everything except pay for the order but has no memory. Only way I see that happening is if he did the same thing to a bunch of sources hoping one of them bites.

This strategy isn’t uncommon and I’ve personally seen it happen to a source I was close with. He did the same thing this source did and sent out the order before payment was received to keep things moving. I read the emails between the source and the long time member on the opposite end. The attitude made it clear to me that the guy was trying to come up and when he did he was extremely pleased with himself.

In the short time between sending the request and receiving tracking the guy supposedly got a dui, lost his job and suddenly was afraid to ship anything except letters to his mom. He told the source that there wasnt any chance he was going to be able to pay for the gear anytime soon but if and when his situation changed he’d be taken care of.

A month or so went by and the pos was posting in another source thread about receiving an order for some generic gh. POS as I already labeled him.

Simmah down there, kiddo. I was clearly not serious. It's amazing how many young kids come on here acting like cunts after being on Reddit and then end up lasting a week or two before scurrying back to Reddit.

What’s your excuse? You make a habit of placing orders with different sources for fun and to see what happens? What kind of problems could a guy like yourself have that would prevent you from coming up with a couple hundred bucks for a small gear order? You come off as a guy living a life of leisure inheriting real estate and the on the verge of banking pure profit.

If I’m wrong how about paying this source? This has nothing to do with luck or the gear gods. It’s you phishing successfully and getting something for nothing. Not a good look…unless you and your homies are having a good laugh over at Reddit?

 

[CraneKraken]

I’m a little late coming across this thread. If things went the way the source says they diid with the customer sending the request along with his shipping info and IF the source sent his instructions for payment the customer at this point is on the hook to complete the transaction. If he doesn’t send payment the “customer” could and should be labeled an “Info Collector”. In days gone by, this would find the guy catching a ban from the board the infraction took place on as well as not being able to order from the source in the future.

The customer’s info would also be passed to other sources in hopes of containing the trouble maker. The source should have this policy posted someplace.

Some boards would post the info collectors pertinent info in the open for all to see. It was a serious issue and security threat.

Maybe it’s not considered an issue these days? The op obviously doesn’t consider it or anything having to with this mystery pkg an issue. “Gear Gods” and his other attempts to be cute make that clear.

Being coy and claiming to be completely in the dark about things? How’s that? He placed the order and did everything except pay for the order but has no memory. Only way I see that happening is if he did the same thing to a bunch of sources hoping one of them bites.

This strategy isn’t uncommon and I’ve personally seen it happen to a source I was close with. He did the same thing this source did and sent out the order before payment was received to keep things moving. I read the emails between the source and the long time member on the opposite end. The attitude made it clear to me that the guy was trying to come up and when he did he was extremely pleased with himself.

In the short time between sending the request and receiving tracking the guy supposedly got a dui, lost his job and suddenly was afraid to ship anything except letters to his mom. He told the source that there wasnt any chance he was going to be able to pay for the gear anytime soon but if and when his situation changed he’d be taken care of.

A month or so went by and the pos was posting in another source thread about receiving an order for some generic gh. POS as I already labeled him.


What’s your excuse? You make a habit of placing orders with different sources for fun and to see what happens? What kind of problems could a guy like yourself have that would prevent you from coming up with a couple hundred bucks for a small gear order? You come off as a guy living a life of leisure inheriting real estate and the on the verge of banking pure profit.

If I’m wrong how about paying this source? This has nothing to do with luck or the gear gods. It’s you phishing successfully and getting something for nothing. Not a good look…unless you and your homies are having a good laugh over at Reddit?

Yeah dude. You couldn't be any more wrong. This idea that I'm placing orders galore hoping to have shit sent to me is truly fucking ridiculous. I'm a grown man, currently putting the daughter I raised on my own since she was an infant through grad school, and running my own contracting business. These traits don't exactly reek of scammer. So do yourself a favor and settle down with the false accusations.

Also, hey, how about you try applying some logic before you start your virtue signaling, and ask yourself this, "Would this guy make this post with pics if he was out to commit a scam?" Answer: "Of course not! Why would he bring attention to himself when he could easily remain quiet about it and we'd all be none the wiser."

Haha.. the good old Reddit smear. That's cute. Do yourself another favor and read my entire posting history, kid.

I also spoke to Neo and we figured out what happened.

Next time you feel like virtue signaling or making retarded accusations think it through first, apply some logic, aak yourself, "do I know this guy? Maybe I'll read his posting history before making absurd allegations. You'll still get your social validation, you'll just need to go elsewhere for it. You couldn't be any more wrong here so it falls flat.

Think it through and ask yourself a few simple questions before you try to slander someone you know nothing about.

Again, if your fucking dumb theory were even remotely true why would I make this post asking for help figuring out what happened? Why the fuck would I bring attention to myself? It defies logic, bud. Ha- shit, why the fuck would I order a few bottles and a bag of tabs??? That's a weak scam. If I were a scumbag and did shit like that on purpose I'd be ordering kits of oil and multiple bags of tabs along with whatever peptides the source has available.

So you clearly didn't think it through. You made some mighty bold claims and weak assumptions. Which tells me that in your eagerness to virtue signal for validation you failed to think any of this through. Unless you're just entirely incapable of thinking through the possible scenario's that could lead to this and to apply some grace while doing so. If that's the case than you might want to simmer down on the reckless accusations, until you have the brain power to do so with reason and logic.

 

[nidnoy]

Just a question? Did you release the posting history of the guy you are now smearing?

 

[FastBun]

Yeah dude. You couldn't be any more wrong. This idea that I'm placing orders galore hoping to have shit sent to me is truly fucking ridiculous. I'm a grown man, currently putting the daughter I raised on my own since she was an infant through grad school, and running my own contracting business. These traits don't exactly reek of scammer. So do yourself a favor and settle down with the false accusations.

Also, hey, how about you try applying some logic before you start your virtue signaling, and ask yourself this, "Would this guy make this post with pics if he was out to commit a scam?" Answer: "Of course not! Why would he bring attention to himself when he could easily remain quiet about it and we'd all be none the wiser."

Haha.. the good old Reddit smear. That's cute. Do yourself another favor and read my entire posting history, kid.

I also spoke to Neo and we figured out what happened.

Next time you feel like virtue signaling or making retarded accusations think it through first, apply some logic, aak yourself, "do I know this guy? Maybe I'll read his posting history before making absurd allegations. You'll still get your social validation, you'll just need to go elsewhere for it. You couldn't be any more wrong here so it falls flat.

Think it through and ask yourself a few simple questions before you try to slander someone you know nothing about.

Again, if your fucking dumb theory were even remotely true why would I make this post asking for help figuring out what happened? Why the fuck would I bring attention to myself? It defies logic, bud. Ha- shit, why the fuck would I order a few bottles and a bag of tabs??? That's a weak scam. If I were a scumbag and did shit like that on purpose I'd be ordering kits of oil and multiple bags of tabs along with whatever peptides the source has available.

So you clearly didn't think it through. You made some mighty bold claims and weak assumptions. Which tells me that in your eagerness to virtue signal for validation you failed to think any of this through. Unless you're just entirely incapable of thinking through the possible scenario's that could lead to this and to apply some grace while doing so. If that's the case than you might want to simmer down on the reckless accusations, until you have the brain power to do so with reason and logic.

In all fairness… @biggerben69 makes a point… some people contact all sources to try to scam… whether that’s what u did or not… who knows… now you posted because you were scared of getting a package… otherwise… u wouldn’t have ….

“I've had maybe 6 seizure letters over the yrs and 2 or 3 since last summer. Could it be a set up of some kind by the new CBC operation? ”

Sounds like someone who is scared to me… according to the source you never paid either… so Ben makes pretty strong points…

 

[AlexDavis43]

In all fairness… @biggerben69 makes a point… some people contact all sources to try to scam… whether that’s what u did or not… who knows… now you posted because you were scared of getting a package… otherwise… u wouldn’t have ….

“I've had maybe 6 seizure letters over the yrs and 2 or 3 since last summer. Could it be a set up of some kind by the new CBC operation? ”

Sounds like someone who is scared to me… according to the source you never paid either… so Ben makes pretty strong points…

Just that last part.

@CraneKraken why didn't you pay?

At least a few days past between when you placed the order and it arrived; a few days that you weren't submitting payment. I usually pay within a day.

Did you change your mind w/o emailing Neo to cancel the order?

Maybe you thought not paying would cancel it
(trying to throw u a bone here)

 

[AlexDavis43]

Maybe you thought not paying would cancel it
(trying to throw u a bone here)

Maybe I've been taking shit too seriously bc when I receive a BTC address, that's like 100% order confirmation in my mind and I race to pay it.

Do you guys place orders and not pay even when you get a BTC address? Cuz you changed your mind or something?

 

[CharlesV]

Maybe I've been taking shit too seriously bc when I receive a BTC address, that's like 100% order confirmation in my mind and I race to pay it.

you aren’t alone. especially in this climate with stock issues the way they are? i don’t submit an order until my wallet is loaded and ready to fire off ‘coin.

 

[The Answ3r]

Interesting situation - hopefully Neo and @CraneKraken handled it privately and put it to rest behind closed doors.
I’m sure Crane didn’t do it intentionally or try to push Neo into handing out free gear.

Just to throw in my two cents - if it were me, I probably would’ve sent Neo at least 50% of the order value. The guy’s clearly putting in the work, he’s new to the game, constantly testing raws and finished products.

Now… if this had been Axle? I wouldn’t have said a damn word.

 

[biggerben69]

I guess I’m not the only retard. Has anyone else been taught that when you get to the point in the process where you are given payment info/instructions and you DON’T follow through you will be considered an Info Collector?

I know the 2 members who “liked” @CraneKraken’s post where he insulted me weren’t. I’ll deal with them in some other threads in the forum.

Cranekraken playing dumb like he had no idea where the gear came from after placing the same order with Neo(short 1 vial) is at the very least disingenuous and at worst an outright lie.

Why would he start this thread? Dishonest people do some funny things to try and cover their tracks. Belittling and insulting others is one thing they might do. Starting the thread to try and beat Neo to the punch is another.

@NeoAnabolics…are you trying to tell me you’ve never heard of an info collector? You’re doing a disservice to the Community by letting this go trying to sweep it under the rug… and pissing me off personally. Your other fellow sources I guess mean nothing. Lack of comradery I guess. As long as it doesn’t happen to you again. Keeping it quiet exacerbates the problem.

You want an enemy @CraneKraken? You got one, dick head.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Maybe I've been taking shit too seriously bc when I receive a BTC address, that's like 100% order confirmation in my mind and I race to pay it.

Do you guys place orders and not pay even when you get a BTC address? Cuz you changed your mind or something?

The only time I dont pay as soon as I get the address is when its a Chinese source messaging me back at 230am my time lol.

At that point, the order is in.

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

so an order is confirmed once you get payment info? I've never in my life heard of such a thing. Usually its "thanks for your payment, your order is confirmed" when its confirmed. Maybe thats just me though. crazy to be considered a scammer because of this. now if a person said "im packaging you up and sending out tomorrow, heres the payment info to make payment when youre ready with coin" and you dont pay, thats completely different.

 

[dick_starbuck]

so an order is confirmed once you get payment info? I've never in my life heard of such a thing. Usually its "thanks for your payment, your order is confirmed" when its confirmed. Maybe thats just me though. crazy to be considered a scammer because of this. now if a person said "im packaging you up and sending out tomorrow, heres the payment info to make payment when youre ready with coin" and you dont pay, thats completely different.

The source is sending you a BTC address. You dont pay? You could be collecting information for some kind of LEO investigation.

Paranoid? Maybe. But this isnt a business where you can afford to be flippant.

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

The source is sending you a BTC address. You dont pay? You could be collecting information for some kind of LEO investigation.

Paranoid? Maybe. But this isnt a business where you can afford to be flippant.

If a source is comprimised because they gave out a btc address, then no one should be using them as their opsec is absolute shit. Who gives a fuck if you got a btc address from them or not. don't blame others because your opsec is so shitty. An order isn't finalized until its finalized. either with a contract payment or a handshake and validated by both parties. i dont give a damn if its real estate drugs, cars, prostitition, gold bars, cash or poker chips. Its worked this way before cash until this veru second. the rules supposedly changed in all ther worlds history of business dealings because a bunch of idiots are now giving out a single btc address to every single customer without regards to their own or our safety? you sound foolish!

be careful not to ask for menus or check out their websites or whatsapp contact either. you could be LEO fishing for info. see how fucking ridiculous you sound. well, maybe YOU dont, but i hope others do.

 

[AlexDavis43]

so an order is confirmed once you get payment info? I've never in my life heard of such a thing. Usually its "thanks for your payment, your order is confirmed" when its confirmed. Maybe thats just me though. crazy to be considered a scammer because of this. now if a person said "im packaging you up and sending out tomorrow, heres the payment info to make payment when youre ready with coin" and you dont pay, thats completely different.

Read Ben's comment above -> regardless of whether it was the intent, apparently this is a scam where OP would be known as an "info collector" (or something like that).

Also, how many times have you made it to the part of the order when you get a BTC address and you didn't pay? With no explanation and without notifying the vendor.

 

[OldmemberNewcuenta]

Read Ben's comment above -> regardless of whether it was the intent, apparently this is a scam where OP would be known as an "info collector" (or something like that).

Also, how many times have you made it to the part of the order when you get a BTC address and you didn't pay? With no explanation and without notifying the vendor.

i would think not paying in and of itself would be the notification that im not paying. yall must be fucking with me. people bullshit all the time. they dont pay, you simply move on. not call it an elaborate FBI scheme to extract information lol. must be more that test and tren in some of these syringes. or all that coke tallk i see mentioned on the boards is truer that id initially believed.

i assure you it happens often that people get a payment addy and juat dissapear. i cant imagine sources being comprimised this in any major way. or they need to take a step back and get their house in order

only issue i see here is the guy acting like he had no idea where the order came from where he clearly was in talks with the vendor and basically got the order he was initially ordering. should he have paid? sure. but to act as though a person is commited to paying simply for reciving the info to make a payemnt is laughable. unless he himself stated he was commited to paying and confirmed that.

 

[Ghoul]

i would think not paying in and of itself would be the notification that im not paying. yall must be fucking with me. people bullshit all the time. they dont pay, you simply move on. not call it an elaborate FBI scheme to extract information lol. must be more that test and tren in some of these syringes. or all that coke tallk i see mentioned on the boards is truer that id initially believed.

i assure you it happens often that people get a payment addy and juat dissapear. i cant imagine sources being comprimised this in any major way. or they need to take a step back and get their house in order

only issue i see here is the guy acting like he had no idea where the order came from where he clearly was in talks with the vendor and basically got the order he was initially ordering. should he have paid? sure. but to act as though a person is commited to paying simply for reciving the info to make a payemnt is laughable. unless he himself stated he was commited to paying and confirmed that.

Because they genuinely believe a $200,000+ salary DEA agent wouldn't have the department budget to place a $200 order to gather all sorts of info, and actual evidence on a target....or that agents are crawling all over this board waiting to pounce on someone's TD pic to get a glimpse at packaging....instead of just placing a fucking order.

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[OldmemberNewcuenta]

Because a $200,000+ annual salaried DEA agent wouldn't have the department budget to place a $200 order to gather all sorts of info, and actual evidence on a target....

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yea, i just dont get where these commenters are coming from. an asshole for wasting time? maybe, but as a source thats a part of the job dealing with those. but a super secret agent trying to bust an op by getting a BTC address? lol. where do these people come from to think up this silly shi*

 

[Ghoul]

yea, i just dont get where these commenters are coming from. an asshole for wasting time? maybe, but as a source thats a part of the job dealing with those. but a super secret agent trying to bust an op by getting a BTC address? lol. where do these people come from to think up this silly shi*

The problem of sources not delivering what was paid for without having to twist arms is 1000x larger than any "annoyance" the customer base puts them through.

 

[AlexDavis43]

only issue i see here is the guy acting like he had no idea where the order came from where he clearly was in talks with the vendor and basically got the order he was initially ordering.

Yeah that part was very weird too

I'm sure if he wants to clarify, he will

Also, I didn't get a narc bust vibe from Ben's comment; not sure who started that

 

[FastBun]

The source is sending you a BTC address. You dont pay? You could be collecting information for some kind of LEO investigation.

Paranoid? Maybe. But this isnt a business where you can afford to be flippant.

100% agree with you… you never know who is on the other side…. Not only LEO… could be a competitor sources to send hot pack… could be a lot of things that would be concerning for a source….