cousinmuscles
Member
I get it, but you are risking contaminating your gear with moisture like that. Use your heater or use the stove on the lowest setting and keep a close eye on it.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
10-4. I get it.
RaddishPork
Member
You've already been corrected twice but I'll do it a 3rd time since you can't read.
Step 1 - Put a small amount of water in a bowl and get it hot in the microwave
Step 2 - Remove the water and bowl from the microwave
Step 3 - place the gear vial in that small amount of hot water standing upright
Step 4 - walk away from it and come back 5 minutes later to gear that is not crashed
RaddishPork
Member
You've already been corrected twice but I'll do it a 3rd time since you can't read.
Step 1 - Put a small amount of water in a bowl and get it hot in the microwave
Step 2 - Remove the water and bowl from the microwave
Step 3 - place the gear vial in that small amount of hot water standing upright
Step 4 - walk away from it and come back 5 minutes later to gear that is not crashed
No, that's not how contamination works. If you have a properly sealed vial of sterile gear with a functioning stopper, it will not become contaminated unless you introduce the contaminants to it via injections or somehow getting them IN the vial. By your logic all gear would be contaminated because moisture is everywhere. I know you're a new member trying to help someone out but you're severely over complicating this process.
I was a sterile compounding tech for many years. These drugs get shipped in dirty ass boxes in dirty ass trucks. As long as it's made and sealed properly, you use clean supplies and alcohol down the top of the vials, and it remains sterile.
If people really want to put their stove on the minimum setting and pull out a thermometer to uncrash gear, that's on them. I'm just letting him know that it can be done in 10% of the time with the exact same results. Don't say I'm wrong or giving bad advice when I have medical certifications on this subject.
cousinmuscles
Member
I admit I skimmed through your post when I first read it, however it does not change the fact that doing this is wrong due to the moisture present. Same reason you are not to store vials in the bathroom, same reason you are not to use water to melt raws. Hope you can read better than me
.cousinmuscles
Member
Of course you were a sterile compounding tech for a century and a half.
Do you know why your TRT prescribing doctor will tell you not to store the vial in the bathroom? They didn't have to work as a sterile compounding tech for two centuries to know.
"Sealed properly" is an assumption in this case, in a vial that's used multiple times and has also been heated enough to dissolve NPP, and add to that the human factor when having to do this process possibly many times as it's likely to crash again.
It will take a few minutes for the crystals to melt when it comes in direct contact with the stove. If your method takes 10% of this time then you mistyped, your total time would take well below a minute to do the following:
get a bowl, pour water, put in micro for 5 minutes (use a time chamber to cheat real world physics for this step), take out, place vial, wait for crystals to melt.
RaddishPork
Member
Yes the same TRT doctors that tell you one shot every 10 days is sufficient. Or the ones who think a 175mg cyp / 25mg prop is a good split. Newsflash - TRT Doctors dont have to get certified in USP 797 sterile compounding courses.
It's not my job to explain the concept of sterility to you.
These drugs get delivered in massive packages full of filth, moisture in the cardboard, and all types of microbes around them. Just wait until you find out some drugs are even stored in the fridge where moisture thrives the most!!! If that's okay for INTRAVENOUS use then it's certainly fine for IM steroid injections. If something is sterile, and you use sterile materials with proper aseptic technique, it doesn't matter fuck all that water touches the bottom of the vial for a couple minutes.
You can continue setting up an entire science lab to heat your gear up. I couldn't care any less. Just know that you are wrong and doing more work than necessary. Have a good night new member
cousinmuscles
Member
Putting a vial on a stove or a double boiler with oil is a science lab but your method is easier?
You have to see the practical side here, you are advising someone to put a vial in water. We don't know the quality and integrity of the vials seal (seeing how it's failed UGL gear you would not assume the best), the rubber stopper (and we don't know how well said rubber stopper will work after multiple uses). We don't know what may happen when they do this, it's not hard to make a mistake and tip it over or smear water where it shouldn't be.
It's one thing to have three centuries of experience as a sterile compounding tech and another to understand common sense.
As much as these TRT doctors suck, they know how to explain safe practice to a patient (not a sterile compounding tech with 1 millennia of experience).
Sealed drugs in blister packs in the fridge works, but try and pop the sealing and see what happens after a while, and if you have the balls, pop one of the crumbly soft pills.
If the seal on the vial is compromised you shouldn’t be injecting it to begin with. This argument makes no sense. His method works just fine with a vial. That said, I use a candle warmer from Amazon for a few minutes. Works every time.
watchtymeflyyy
Member
Come on man… How could you not say Tren Ace Ventura? Fucking up the joke lol
watchtymeflyyy
Member
Clearly I’m right… And clearly you didn’t think NPP 200 was on the higher end of dosages as far as MG/ML goes hence why it looks like cum.
knucklesamich
Member
You're welcome bro, have a blast, NPP is a good compound
knucklesamich
Member
If anyone can do it, Sampei can do it. My place just gets kind of cold, admittedly it's because I turn that AC up up up. I live where it's pretty hot, so the cold air is a relief.
try castor oil or GSO 30% BB
cousinmuscles
Member
I understand your point and myself I use my rooms heater, however using steaming hot water has risks too easily avoidable, can work just fine if you're careful but IMO not something you should recommend to someone else. Some cheap Chinese vials stoppers won't hold after having been poked a few times then heated, check the attatchment.
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Stubb
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Damn that's more prolapsed than my ex.
