China begins chemical seller crackdown

[Mac81]

There's a market I was using last year to order some stuff out of China and Canada, And they did have a bunch of raw stuff on there coming out of China, a couple other places, It's a little hard to get on that market with a cell phone I'll have to get my laptop out one of these nights, They use a rotating password to log in, so you never have the same password, you have to use a PGP program to figure out your password every time you log in. I'll check it out this week. Factories out of China have ads on there for raw materials, at least they did last time I was on her, they like using it because they can't be traced or identified for who they are, because some of the stuff they're selling on there has been restricted for a long time.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I haven't been on any of the other markets in a while, most of the other markets are about 100 times bigger than that, I'm drug free these days other than this kind of stuff so I kind of dropped off the map for a while, I suppose one of these days I'm going to revisit and see what's out there

Kinda cryptic dude

What exactly are you considering revisiting?

 

[DECLAN]

Kinda cryptic dude

What exactly are you considering revisiting?

Probably bath salts or flakka lol.

 

[Mac81]

Kinda cryptic dude

What exactly are you considering revisiting?

There's a very large market place I know of that's worldwide,1,000 of different items for sale,it's just ignorant to log into,you need connected to a VPN or it won't even load,and the login password changes everytime,you need to decrypt it everytime using your personal PGP key,they had a lot of sources out of China last time I was on there,I'm going to check it out this week. They had steroids and raws galore last time I logged in.

 

[Mac81]

Probably bath salts or flakka lol.

Never did that stuff, everyone I grew up with is cooked from that shit. I never even tried it before,I always liked real drugs when I did them,once you use that stuff you never come back,it ruined a lot of people around here when it was popular,now people just do meth,it's dirt cheap and plentiful,no reason to do fake synthetics anymore,meth is cheaper than weed now...I don't even smoke pot anymore...I'm clean as they get, I haven't even had a beer in years

 

[DECLAN]

Never did that stuff, everyone I grew up with is cooked from that shit. I never even tried it before,I always liked real drugs when I did them,once you use that stuff you never come back,it ruined a lot of people around here when it was popular,now people just do meth,it's dirt cheap and plentiful,no reason to do fake synthetics anymore,meth is cheaper than weed now...I don't even smoke pot anymore...I'm clean as they get, I haven't even had a beer in years

Lol it’s a joke

 

[verylargeshoes]

You need to go to BBgate.com. click up in the left corner where it says the bazaar drug market. It should give you an option to download an app on your phone, at least it did me. Change the options on the search to shipping to the United States and shipping from the United States And it'll bring you up three or four pages of stuff, there's a variety of different steroids in there for sale.. there's a lot of other things... Pay no attention to that stuff, but I know this is a legit site I've ordered stuff off of it through the years anything you send your money for you will get.

This probably goes without saying, but don't visit that site without three layers of condom on. VPN, safe browser setup, etc. AAS are the most innocuous thing sold there.

 

[Ghoul]

I am friends One of the largest labs in America, and he tells me constantly, it's getting pretty crap. He can't get anything now.


If he can't get anything, what hope do small guys get?

This guy is used to buying kilograms of it and kilograms of it.

He cant find a reliable source of testosterone. This dude's been doing this for 15 years

Since Test has legit pharma uses, I assume legitimate companies in China are still manufacturing all esters, and eventually some will "leak" to UGL. Some compounding pharmacy in some other country can order the API legally and turn around and sell it.

Hell, who knows, the quality of Test available UGL may get better as a result of this.

 

[IndividualMan]

It seems unlikely that they will be able to get enough to satisfy market needs.
especially with the hoarding which is happening atm

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

It seems unlikely that they will be able to get enough to satisfy market needs.
especially with the hoarding which is happening atm

Trust me most people only buy 100 grams or 300 and consider that a horde. There is plenty of raws. Its mostly legal issues and customs now thats preventing it from coming my friends lab keeps getting his large orders seized its customs and a mix of legal political battles effectively making all this difficult.

Like ghost said legal test api are made all day long by the 22kg barrels. Heck even india has this in large supplies. But india for some reason rather take your money and send you nothing than to actually sell you their legal pharma grade test cyp... It just must be the culture there to not be customer first. India could step up but they gotta get with the status quo to accomplish this

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Since Test has legit pharma uses, I assume legitimate companies in China are still manufacturing all esters, and eventually some will "leak" to UGL. Some compounding pharmacy in some other country can order the API legally and turn around and sell it.

Hell, who knows, the quality of Test available UGL may get better as a result of this.

For sure. Its there. Mast however likely isnt.... Untill they figure out another precursor... Thats not based on fent...

 

[IndividualMan]

Trust me most people only buy 100 grams or 300 and consider that a horde. There is plenty of raws. Its mostly legal issues and customs now thats preventing it from coming my friends lab keeps getting his large orders seized its customs and a mix of legal political battles effectively making all this difficult.

Like ghost said legal test api are made all day long by the 22kg barrels. Heck even india has this in large supplies. But india for some reason rather take your money and send you nothing than to actually sell you their legal pharma grade test cyp... It just must be the culture there to not be customer first. India could step up but they gotta get with the status quo to accomplish this

thats good to know, but who in gods name only buys in the low 100s of grams? especially test, I personally do not even go that low for test orders from a new source

 

[verylargeshoes]

thats good to know, but who in gods name only buys in the low 100s of grams? especially test, I personally do not even go that low for test orders from a new source

That's like 20-30 years of TRT/cruise dosage, so it ain't nothing.

 

[Mac81]

That's like 20-30 years of TRT/cruise dosage, so it ain't nothing.

Lol, right! I got like 600 g of it and I'm not figuring on having to buy it for a long f****** time, I don't even know if I could do that much test by myself.

 

[Mac81]

thats good to know, but who in gods name only buys in the low 100s of grams? especially test, I personally do not even go that low for test orders from a new source

Trust me most people only buy 100 grams or 300 and consider that a horde. There is plenty of raws. Its mostly legal issues and customs now thats preventing it from coming my friends lab keeps getting his large orders seized its customs and a mix of legal political battles effectively making all this difficult.

Like ghost said legal test api are made all day long by the 22kg barrels. Heck even india has this in large supplies. But india for some reason rather take your money and send you nothing than to actually sell you their legal pharma grade test cyp... It just must be the culture there to not be customer first. India could step up but they gotta get with the status quo to accomplish this

He does have a point, The only stuff getting through is small orders, they're snatching up all the big stuff left and right. It's going to make it hard for labs to operate if it continues, people that are just buying for themselves still have a good chance of getting 100 g of this or 100 g of that through without a problem, but they're hitting the big orders left and right as fast as they come in. I honestly believe that's why I never had any orders seized before coming in through customs, not one time in my life knock on wood, because I never order big ass orders like that, I always figured it too risky, I've always had very good luck getting small stuff through, something big like that's a roll of the dice ,It's heavy And it's coming from China, not good right now with the way things are. I would always order 10 small orders,before I would order one big pack like that, I never realized how easy it was up until now to get that much through.

 

[IndividualMan]

That's like 20-30 years of TRT/cruise dosage, so it ain't nothing.

gotta think big, pin big, and get big

 

[verylargeshoes]

gotta think big, pin big, and get big

“New source? Let’s buy some ‘intent to distribute’ quantities to check ‘em out”

 

[Mac81]

thats good to know, but who in gods name only buys in the low 100s of grams? especially test, I personally do not even go that low for test orders from a new source

Honestly if you're not a lab, And you have a couple hundred grams of something, you do have a f****** ton of it, try to do 100 g of tren,lol or 100 g of deca, lol, or eat a hundred grams of d-bol,lol for just one guy that's buying for himself, that is kind of a lot, I mean maybe there is somebody out there that can do that much, I would probably die first.I understand where you're coming from totally though most of the guys on this board aren't buying this stuff for personal use, and the current situation is really f****** s*** up.

 

[IndividualMan]

“New source? Let’s buy some ‘intent to distribute’ quantities to check ‘em out”

whoopsies

 

[UGintelligence]

Ya WWB & GGB said no shipping to US & the drop shippers are out. For an unknown amount of time. Def think the customs crackdown is worse. Raws for some things should be around, but aren't moving.

I saw this coming for yrs but just never found a reliable source in 5 yrs or I would've stocked. Just wanted personal use, but my HRT protocol is Test P & NPP, both un popular compounds that no1 seems to use or test. I started shopping raws for vendor quantities but it's too late for that. Eastern Europe seems fine. India Mart is an option. Aren't customs targeting China mainly or all foreign shipments?