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Ghoul banned

AlexDavis43 said:
Most of the time when some 16-year old joins and makes a post on their first day about planning their first cycle or using GH to grow taller, they're banned pretty quickly.

Appreciated.

Teenagers are retarded. Everyone telling them not to do something would likely just encourage them further.
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There was a fucking 14 year old in the SSA telegram buying shit and slanging it. Everyone told him to fuck off and quit fucking his body up but of course.. "he's intelligent and knows what he's doing."

I hope he got banned
 
Ghoul said:
I'm staying out of here in the hopes my small "fan club" of crybullies will be satisfied relieving themselves in one corner of the yard and not stink up the threads where friendly, productive conversations take place.

But, @Zebedee , probably the most woke Meso member nailed it with this observation:



Replace QSC with "most favored vendor of the day" and they will be defended from every criticism, and feigned outrage over "racism" is just a golden opportunity to silence the critic.

By the way, this all began with a customer bringing up the fact his vials lacked vacuum. I told him that made them more
likely to be unsterile (true) and oxygen exposure makes them more prone to aggregation (also true). My advice was to filter them to minimize the risk from either.

That's it. It's not desireable, but it happens.

There was no insulting or criticism of Lobster.
Why would I? I'd recommended him in the forums numerous times up to that point.

Then his fan club decided there was nothing wrong with a lack of vacuum and went ballistic on me for suggesting otherwise.

And with that vendor dickriding encouragement Lobster jumped in also asserting a lack of vacuum meant nothing.

So here on a "harm reduction board", we've got members gaslighting, denying vacuum mattered any more, denying anyone received vials without vacuum (at least 6 did, probably more), and the vendor himself, based on testing that a) showed degradation, b) didn't test for sterility and c) can't capture oxidative damage, insisting vacuum wasn't a quality issue.

Just like floaters in gear suddenly wasn't an issue for many when QSC was "most favored vendor".

If Lobster had simply said "Sorry, we'll take steps to prevent that in the future", or nothing at all, instead of "Bullshit, vacuum to protect peptides means nothing", cheered on by the willfully ignorant, there would've been no need to forcefully correct that lie.

And no, I'm not relitigating the significance of vacuum. Peptides must be protected from oxygen with vacuum or inert gas, to maintain sterility, and to prevent those that are sensitive to oxidation, like rHGH, from health risk inducing oxidative damage that cannot be detected on a Jano test. This is a fact. If you knew how peptides were lyophilized, you'd also know that they can't lose vacuum unless the stopper is compromised. Vacuum is created during the process with the stopper on. A lack of vacuum may not kill you, but neither will injecting some floaters or using unsterile gear. It's still unacceptable and no member should have suggested otherwise, and worse, support the vendor's claims that lack of vacuum means nothing as Lobster did repeatedly.
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in this case i agree with lobster deserves the critic even if it comes in the form of racism. we're emotional gearheads and known as the most critical forum against shit sources.

Dont think you deserve ban for calling him kebab man since you're just holding the sources up to quality standards
 
Ghoul said:
They're not your friends. You didn't gain their admiration by "bravely" attacking me out of nowhere with your bullshit and insults.
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He is invited to my Kid's Quincenera at the trailer park. Going to cater it with Mediterranean food.


Ghoul said:
And no, I'm not relitigating the significance of vacuum. Peptides must be protected from oxygen with vacuum or inert gas, to maintain sterility, and to prevent those that are sensitive to oxidation, like rHGH, from health risk inducing oxidative damage that cannot be detected on a Jano test. This is a fact. If you knew how peptides were lyophilized, you'd also know that they can't lose vacuum unless the stopper is compromised. Vacuum is created during the process with the stopper on. A lack of vacuum may not kill you, but neither will injecting some floaters or using unsterile gear. It's still unacceptable and no member should have suggested otherwise, and worse, support the vendor's claims that lack of vacuum means nothing as Lobster did repeatedly.
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I don't believe that the test results really reflected hard degradation. especially since its months old.

We talked about testing the product and letting test results speak for themself you were resistant to to testing and kept quoting studies.

You have had plenty of dumb fucking accusations toward me and started losing more and more credibility as time went on. I am always going to remind you of that accusations that I was piggybacking off of Scruf's testing.

Just like when you said I had a bunch of vacuum less vials from Lobster. You then accused me of making a deal with him to have it replaced.

Guess what? My Vials were from China which all had a vacuum. The vacuum issue was from Turkey.

The ability to combine information and form a logical thought is complete shit.

I am assuming this flaw applies to all of your "Data gathering" and coming to a conclusion as well.
 
Ghoul said:
I'm staying out of here in the hopes my small "fan club" of crybullies will be satisfied relieving themselves in one corner of the yard and not stink up the threads where friendly, productive conversations take place.

But, @Zebedee , probably the most woke Meso member nailed it with this observation:



Replace QSC with "most favored vendor of the day" and they will be defended from every criticism, and feigned outrage over "racism" is just a golden opportunity to silence the critic.

By the way, this all began with a customer bringing up the fact his vials lacked vacuum. I told him that made them more
likely to be unsterile (true) and oxygen exposure makes them more prone to aggregation (also true). My advice was to filter them to minimize the risk from either.

That's it. It's not desireable, but it happens.

There was no insulting or criticism of Lobster.
Why would I? I'd recommended him in the forums numerous times up to that point.

Then his fan club decided there was nothing wrong with a lack of vacuum and went ballistic on me for suggesting otherwise.

And with that vendor dickriding encouragement Lobster jumped in also asserting a lack of vacuum meant nothing.

So here on a "harm reduction board", we've got members gaslighting, denying vacuum mattered any more, denying anyone received vials without vacuum (at least 6 did, probably more), and the vendor himself, based on testing that a) showed degradation, b) didn't test for sterility and c) can't capture oxidative damage, insisting vacuum wasn't a quality issue.

Just like floaters in gear suddenly wasn't an issue for many when QSC was "most favored vendor".

If Lobster had simply said "Sorry, we'll take steps to prevent that in the future", or nothing at all, instead of "Bullshit, vacuum to protect peptides means nothing", cheered on by the willfully ignorant, there would've been no need to forcefully correct that lie.

And no, I'm not relitigating the significance of vacuum. Peptides must be protected from oxygen with vacuum or inert gas, to maintain sterility, and to prevent those that are sensitive to oxidation, like rHGH, from health risk inducing oxidative damage that cannot be detected on a Jano test. This is a fact. If you knew how peptides were lyophilized, you'd also know that they can't lose vacuum unless the stopper is compromised. Vacuum is created during the process with the stopper on. A lack of vacuum may not kill you, but neither will injecting some floaters or using unsterile gear. It's still unacceptable and no member should have suggested otherwise, and worse, support the vendor's claims that lack of vacuum means nothing as Lobster did repeatedly.
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You could’ve said all these and 10more pages but that doesn’t address your racist and derogatory remarks which you do not regret saying at all. It doesn’t matter you will go back on repeating it.

I’ll say it again so you can hear it, you’re a racist and when involved with internet arguments you lose control and resort to your only know option, target someone’s ethnicity/race.

You don’t even deny it at all.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
too bad the around-the-clock team here are the people that have been banned.

@readalot is still here liking/disliking shit in the background lol
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Is the goal to passive aggressively (or aggressively?) chase off everyone you disagree with?

Or perhaps to change the subject and attack Readalot instead?

If I'm misunderstanding and you two have patched things up, cool. Otherwise, can't Readalot exist here and NOT post? And NOT have to worry about people making remarks to try and goad a response?

Genuinely curious...I've got no beef with you directly (and if I did indirectly, I realize it doesn't fucking matter either way). I just don't get the point of attacking peeps who are just existing?

Ghoul is a different beast...but I presume he has had the rules explained. He's back. Who gives a fuck?

I enjoyed the lack of arguments in his absence...but truthfully, you guys are making an entire thread about him being banned. Talk about rent-free.

What is our goal here? It's a rhetorical question as I don't give a shit what your answer is. I'm neither "Team Ghoul" or anti-Ghoul

...but Readalot has definitely NOT been fucking with anyone and yet we still try to lure him out. Like...wtf?

Racism...hate speech...misogyny...banning because we just don't like someone...cursing (yeah, I made that one up 'cause i do a lot of it and realize it can make me seem low-IQ)

I dunno where it ends... maybe we all just get back to stop trying to win Internet pissing contests...and maybe actually accept we might have some common ground in being here. Live and fucking let live.

Rant over and I realize probably unnecessary...but I feel better than I did 5 minutes ago. That's what's important to me... LMFAO.
 
RandallFlagg said:
Is the goal to passive aggressively (or aggressively?) chase off everyone you disagree with?

Or perhaps to change the subject and attack Readalot instead?

If I'm misunderstanding and you two have patched things up, cool. Otherwise, can't Readalot exist here and NOT post? And NOT have to worry about people making remarks to try and goad a response?

Genuinely curious...I've got no beef with you directly (and if I did indirectly, I realize it doesn't fucking matter either way). I just don't get the point of attacking peeps who are just existing?

Ghoul is a different beast...but I presume he has had the rules explained. He's back. Who gives a fuck?

I enjoyed the lack of arguments in his absence...but truthfully, you guys are making an entire thread about him being banned. Talk about rent-free.

What is our goal here? It's a rhetorical question as I don't give a shit what your answer is. I'm neither "Team Ghoul" or anti-Ghoul

...but Readalot has definitely NOT been fucking with anyone and yet we still try to lure him out. Like...wtf?

Racism...hate speech...misogyny...banning because we just don't like someone...cursing (yeah, I made that one up 'cause i do a lot of it and realize it can make me seem low-IQ)

I dunno where it ends... maybe we all just get back to stop trying to win Internet pissing contests...and maybe actually accept we might have some common ground in being here. Live and fucking let live.

Rant over and I realize probably unnecessary...but I feel better than I did 5 minutes ago. That's what's important to me... LMFAO.
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Honestly it’s really not that serious. It’s all in fun. Are you having fun yet? We are.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
I am not going to explain it to you if you dont get why I hate him.

In regards to readalot, he thumbs up and down plenty of shit. So to me, its still participating in the forum. He has messaged PLENTY OF US, in the background.


I didnt make the thread.
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Yeah, truthfully the whole rant wasn't at you (even though I made it all a reply to you).

Fair enough...I don't mean to make Readalot the focal point either as it's not my place to speak for someone else. I object to the multiple Readalot jabs but you're far from the only one... it's not for me to agree with or understand.

As I said, Ghoul is a different beast altogether. I neither agree or disagree with the way he conducts himself here. He has been both antagonized and antagonistic (though I will argue he has been more antagonized because you guys just don't "like him"...)

I don't support racism, hate speech, misogyny, homophobia or anything of the sort (though I am certain at some point have said or did things that can be construed as such). I am also anti-bullying (unless it is to bully a bully). Ghoul may not be innocent...but I genuinely can't think of a time he has just "attacked" someone without first being attacked.

I'm not saying that I didn't miss an event or that his responses are blameless...but shit, I've never been good at just settling spats like this (even in my own house) other than by just walking away from the fight....(But again, I've got no beef with you...or truthfully anyone on this forum. There may be some dumbasses that filter their way out...but I still contend there's more common ground to be sussed out among us than quarrels).
 
You blokes need to get onboard with our ( aussies/kiwis/poms) vernacular and just call people cunts when you don't see eye to eye. Leave the racism etc at the door.

Cunt can also be used when praising someone ie " He's a good cunt".
 
BamaCrazy said:
Honestly it’s really not that serious. It’s all in fun. Are you having fun yet? We are.
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Action Movie Gladiator GIF by Zypto


The greatest movie ever made... LMFAO.

1.) The Ghoul stuff - not that serious I guess (though people are worried about perma-bans due to this issue...bit of a fundamental shift in MESO...but one im neither for or against.

2.) Readalot - he took his punches. I just don't get the attacks if he isn't attacking anyone.

3.) you are correct it's not that serious... I got a little triggered which rarely ever happens.

I really still to this day believe we'd actually all mostly get along IRL...but you're right that it doesn't matter if a bunch of grown men (and a few women) don't get along on an internet messaging board. Point taken.
 
RandallFlagg said:
Yeah, truthfully the whole rant wasn't at you (even though I made it all a reply to you).

Fair enough...I don't mean to make Readalot the focal point either as it's not my place to speak for someone else. I object to the multiple Readalot jabs but you're far from the only one... it's not for me to agree with or understand.

As I said, Ghoul is a different beast altogether. I neither agree or disagree with the way he conducts himself here. He has been both antagonized and antagonistic (though I will argue he has been more antagonized because you guys just don't "like him"...)

I don't support racism, hate speech, misogyny, homophobia or anything of the sort (though I am certain at some point have said or did things that can be construed as such). I am also anti-bullying (unless it is to bully a bully). Ghoul may not be innocent...but I genuinely can't think of a time he has just "attacked" someone without first being attacked.

I'm not saying that I didn't miss an event or that his responses are blameless...but shit, I've never been good at just settling spats like this (even in my own house) other than by just walking away from the fight....(But again, I've got no beef with you...or truthfully anyone on this forum. There may be some dumbasses that filter their way out...but I still contend there's more common ground to be sussed out among us than quarrels).
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Ghoul brought up Readalot, not Spiff
RandallFlagg said:
Action Movie Gladiator GIF by Zypto


The greatest movie ever made... LMFAO.

1.) The Ghoul stuff - not that serious I guess (though people are worried about perma-bans due to this issue...bit of a fundamental shift in MESO...but one im neither for or against.

2.) Readalot - he took his punches. I just don't get the attacks if he isn't attacking anyone.

3.) you are correct it's not that serious... I got a little triggered which rarely ever happens.

I really still to this day believe we'd actually all mostly get along IRL...but you're right that it doesn't matter if a bunch of grown men (and a few women) don't get along on an internet messaging board. Point taken.
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It was Ghoul who dragged Readalot into this, saying he was driven off the board but he's wrong. Readalot is clearly still here every day, just not posting. Anyway Read seemed to chill out a lot compared to when he first joined (and even then, it wasn't outbursts of racism and death wishes).
 
dinfar1337 said:
why are you all going against free speech on the forum? i get racism. but we are all not gen z fuckers with blue hair. We are atleast all +25 that is abusing steriods. lets not add these woke rules
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Oh I'm not for specific rules one way or another...these are just my basic life rules.

I don't need to have them forced on others or shoved down their throat.

I suspect Millard is having a shitty day and tired of the incessant bickering and trying to come up with some guidelines to just put a quick fucking stop to the fuckery....but I don't know him and can't speak for him.

I like that very little gets deleted on the forum...hard to run from history. I have zero clue how you stop bitch behavior

...Ghoul is an interesting case study because he HAS contributed (not in the classic bodybuilding way) AND he has chosen to SLICE back with violence when attacked. I stand by my point that I can't think of a time he has just come out and posted an attack (though I guess I'm ignoring the generic 'knuckle.draggers" comments) on an INDIVIDUAL without being attacked first.

I'm not defending him...nor objecting to him being banned. It just amazes me how some humans cannot co-exist. It does only take ONE to walk away.

@phenominal34 : goddammit!!! My first down vote ever you fuck.... LMFAO (I really am joking... it's cool)
 
RandallFlagg said:
Action Movie Gladiator GIF by Zypto


The greatest movie ever made... LMFAO.

1.) The Ghoul stuff - not that serious I guess (though people are worried about perma-bans due to this issue...bit of a fundamental shift in MESO...but one im neither for or against.

2.) Readalot - he took his punches. I just don't get the attacks if he isn't attacking anyone.

3.) you are correct it's not that serious... I got a little triggered which rarely ever happens.

I really still to this day believe we'd actually all mostly get along IRL...but you're right that it doesn't matter if a bunch of grown men (and a few women) don't get along on an internet messaging board. Point taken.
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Readalot is a good guy. You are right. He shouldn’t be dragged into this.

As far as perma bans, Millard was trying to make a point. Nobody wants extreme rules like he suggested, least of all him. It benefits him the least if he has less members here.

But most of us have real lives and forums and social media are just a distraction and sometimes entertainment. So I never really take it very seriously.
 
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