Weight gain on sry hgh

[Ateam2023]

I haven’t had igf tested, it will be in my next blood work coming up, I just started hrt in December last year . I changed to morning injection today and will see if that works, I have see some people say that morning injection makes them feel more tired?

imo , you haven't been on the hgh that long, i would hop off , get your baseline igf1 (shoulda did that before starting to get an idea how well you are responding to hgh), and then "re-boot" at a lower dose and titrate up accordingly, that would be your best bet instead of spinning your wheels trying to figure out why you are having this kind of negative response to hgh, ,

 

[songsofpyramids]

I would absolutely keep an eye on that fasting blood sugar. Hgh might honestly not be worth it for you until you get that more in control. Whatever benefits you get from the hgh (and it’s not sounding pleasant for you) might not be worth the insulin sensitivity hit. Also, do what Ateam says imo as well.

 

[Ghoul]

Yes I check it 2x a day it stays 125/60 before I started trt in December it ran 105/55 with a rhr average 45 now rhr is 55 , also take Reta 2.5 mg

Your naturally low BP is the biggest clue.

Edema is a common rHGH side, and usually resolves after a month or two as the body adjusts.

11lbs weight gain isn't mild edema that can be fixed by waiting it out or adjusting sodium intake. It's "Fluid overload" and you have to address it.

Your low natural BP means you have low vascular tone. A good thing, Your blood vessels are relaxed and flexible. But that also means they're more permeable than someone with higher baseline BP, so water can escape capillary walls more easily (blood cells are too large to pass).

Because that's your natural state, everything else that regulates water retention has compensated for this. Mainly your kidneys and how much sodium they keep or excrete to keep everything in balance.

But you've got two things overriding that balance now. TRT raising your blood pressure, and rHGH increasing the permeability of your blood vessels.

So your choices are:

Significantly lower or eliminate the rHGH

Lower or eliminate the TRT to reduce blood pressure. (a BP med won't help here, as it'll reduce your vascular tone more and worsen the problem).

Since we're here for performance enhancement, not under medical treatment, I'm going to assume eliminating one or both of those is unacceptable.

What a doc would do for a patient with fluid overload but who must be on rHGH is add very mild diuretic. 12.5-25mg HCTZ, aka Hydrochlorothiazide.

This, combined with the natural rebalancing that will happen over a few months should completely resolve your issue.

Look up precautions. but for healthy people it's basically start with 12.5, stay hydrated, check electrolyte bloodwork in a few weeks. If you still have water retention and everything's ok you can increase to 25mg. Overall it's a very safe, common diuretic, easily available from the PCT sources here or telemedicine. And stop using it if you drop TRT. It could. drive you into hypotension since your baseline BP is low.

 

[MJMoor]

Ghoul thanks for your help I will order some and give it a go,

 

[BamaCrazy]

Ghoul thanks for your help I will order some and give it a go,

Be careful taking medical advice from unqualified people on the internet. You should talk to someone who really knows what they are talking about.

 

[MJMoor]

110?? geez , are you diabetic? if not your well on a good path to it with fbg like that, are you taking anything for this high fbg, like berberine at least?

No not diabetic I can eat a meal and my glucose goes down,last time I used a cgm 110 in the morning it would we 80 after cardio stay in that range most of the day and go up slowly after my larger meal in the evening,I did very low carb not over 20 total for many years.

 

[Ateam2023]

No not diabetic I can eat a meal and my glucose goes down,last time I used a cgm 110 in the morning it would we 80 after cardio stay in that range most of the day and go up slowly after my larger meal in the evening,I did very low carb not over 20 total for many years.

I would really get your bg in order before you continue on hgh unless you want to potentially become diabetic, and taking dietetics without finding the root problem is just a reckless move imo , sure it might help , but until you get to the problem , its just a bad decision to move forward in that direction,,

 

[Ghoul]

No not diabetic I can eat a meal and my glucose goes down,last time I used a cgm 110 in the morning it would we 80 after cardio stay in that range most of the day and go up slowly after my larger meal in the evening,I did very low carb not over 20 total for many years.

This entire forum involves advice surrounding PEDs and other pharmaceuticals so the admonition is absurd and insincere.I choose my words very carefully, including mentioning "healthy" user.

He's a troll with a personal beef against me and a campaign of continual harassment, and you won't find him giving that advice anywhere else, Of course do your own checking. I advised that myself. But this is sound, evidence based advice and I'd be happy to share the studies referencing step therapy and diuretic use with rHGH via DM.

Suddenly edema is a mysterious never before experienced issue with rHGH and not the single most common side effect. Unbelievable.

 

[Ateam2023]

This entire forum involves advice surrounding PEDs and other pharmaceuticals so the admonition is absurd and insincere.I choose my words very carefully, including mentioning "healthy" user.

He's a troll with a personal beef against me and a campaign of continual harassment, and you won't find him giving that advice anywhere else, Of course do your own checking. I advised that myself. But this is sound, evidence based advice and I'd be happy to share the studies referencing step therapy and diuretic use with rHGH via DM.

Suddenly edema is a mysterious never before experienced issue with rHGH and not the single most common side effect. Unbelievable.

Chat gpt chooses your words ghoul give yourself a break , not a pat on the back ,

 

[BamaCrazy]

This entire forum involves advice surrounding PEDs and other pharmaceuticals so the admonition is absurd and insincere.I choose my words very carefully, including mentioning "healthy" user.

He's a troll with a personal beef against me and a campaign of continual harassment, and you won't find him giving that advice anywhere else, Of course do your own checking. I advised that myself. But this is sound, evidence based advice and I'd be happy to share the studies referencing step therapy and diuretic use with rHGH via DM.

Suddenly edema is a mysterious never before experienced issue with rHGH and not the single most common side effect. Unbelievable.

Oh STFU Ghoul. Your posts should have a disclaimer that states you wouldn’t know anything at all without the internet. Stop giving medical advice you idiot. You don’t lift weights, you don’t use PEDs, and you don’t use GH. I’m sure there is a Weight Watchers forum somewhere you would fit into better.

 

[Ghoul]

Chat gpt chooses your words ghoul give yourself a break , not a pat on the back ,

You can't distinguish intelligence from artificial intelligence because you've never been exposed to the former.

You can ask ChatGPT for something intelligent to say all day long and you won't get anything of use because you and your kind lack the intellectual curiosity or the ability to correlate disparate ideas to even ask the right questions.

A lame insult from a dull mind.

 

[Ghoul]

Oh STFU Ghoul. Your posts should have a disclaimer that states you wouldn’t know anything at all without the internet. Stop giving medical advice you idiot. You don’t lift weights, you don’t use PEDs, and you don’t use GH. I’m sure there is a Weight Watchers forum somewhere you would fit into better.

@Millard

So how long do I have to put up with this harassment before I have a free hand to hit back without them crying and gaslighting you into believing I was being abusive?

I thought trolling was a violation of the rules?

Are liars and bullies going to be allowed to drive off those putting in the effort to be helpful here?

Readalot's been driven off, great job on their part towards "harm reduction", so now I get their full attention.

He's not making an argument. He's not disputing anything I said with counter facts. It's purely hate driven ad hominem insults.

 

[Ateam2023]

@Millard

So how long do I have to put up with this harassment before I have a free hand to hit back without them crying and gaslighting you into believing I was being abusive?

I thought trolling was a violation of the rules?

Are liars and bullies going to be allowed to drive off those putting in the effort to be helpful here?

Readalot's been driven off, great job on their part towards "harm reduction", so now I get their full attention.

He's not making an argument. He's not disputing anything I said with counter facts. It's purely hate driven ad hominem insults.

You crybaby BITCH!! You think Millard cares ,, I doubt it,,

 

[BamaCrazy]

@Millard

So how long do I have to put up with this harassment before I have a free hand to hit back without them crying and gaslighting you into believing I was being abusive?

I thought trolling was a violation of the rules?

Are liars and bullies going to be allowed to drive off those putting in the effort to be helpful here?

Readalot's been driven off, great job on their part towards "harm reduction", so now I get their full attention.

He's not making an argument. He's not disputing anything I said with counter facts. It's purely hate driven ad hominem insults.

No hate. Just stop giving medical advice. Stop completely. It’s not trolling when it’s the truth. It’s not my fault you get your panties in a wad over the truth. Stop your crying. I am not going to dispute anything because I’m not a Doctor and shouldn’t be giving anyone medical advice. And neither should you. You aren’t even giving first hand information. You haven’t tried or used most of what you are advising. You read it on the internet or AI gave you the answer. You are such a humongous fraud.

 

[Middus]

No not diabetic I can eat a meal and my glucose goes down,last time I used a cgm 110 in the morning it would we 80 after cardio stay in that range most of the day and go up slowly after my larger meal in the evening,I did very low carb not over 20 total for many years.

One thing I'd ask about is if you're feeling any symptoms of such a a rapid increase in fluid volume. Stuff like Joint stiffness or soreness , especially Knees, ankles and Wrists.
Also is your face puffier than normal?

 

[songsofpyramids]

Op I would not recklessly throw diuretics at this with what you’re experiencing. I would wash out the Hgh or at least drop dose. If it were me personally I would wait until the Reta has done more for your blood glucose before riding hard on hgh. The fact your blood sugar is so high on Reta should be a warning sign to you.

 

[Middus]

Op I would not recklessly throw diuretics at this with what you’re experiencing. I would wash out the Hgh or at least drop dose. If it were me personally I would wait until the Reta has done more for your blood glucose before riding hard on hgh. The fact your blood sugar is so high on Reta should be a warning sign to you.

A possible side effect, loss of fluid volume, further drop in bp, dizziness and fainting spells, all happening in the midst of some unknown insulin vs glucose interplay...

 

[dick_starbuck]

Is it possible the high morning FBG is just from the dawn effect? If its normal post prandial and between meals it likely isnt insulin resistance.

Do you have bloodwork for fasting insulin? HBA1C? Glycation?

 

[BeardedGuy]

Hgh15 1.5bac ,it tested at 96%

Yeah man. Same batch for me. Same situation. Sry 15 from US warehouse in Feb/March. 46 male. Dirt and exercise on point. 2iu day. 4 fasted on weekends for the Bolus method of fat lipolysis. Went from 304 to 318. Inflamed my gout too. I’m discontinuing.

 

[songsofpyramids]

I’m discontinuing.

Think that’s smart. That’s an alarming amount of water weight and listening to your body is important. Inflamed gut is a big warning sign of insulin issues in some cases.

You doing other compounds besides the hgh?