Ghoul banned

Ghoul was literally one of 3 people citing studies and shining light on current information
he attracted a ton of triple digit iq people to this forum and gave it legitimacy.
sad to see him gone
You must have missed all the rants about Smart people leaving MESO because of the arrival of a heap of China vendors. Next you will probably be crediting Ghoul for bringing Readalot here too :D :D :D
 
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Ghoul was literally one of 3 people citing studies and shining light on current information
he attracted a ton of triple digit iq people to this forum and gave it legitimacy.
sad to see him gone
Are you seriously saying this? He has not contributed not even one actual proof on any claims he ever made. I called him out specifically and he never presented one test.

All he did was bark and nothing bite, at least readalot actually followed through with his pursuit of harm reduction.

Ghoul is a narcissist who only cares about presenting himself as someone of an authority, no experience or personal knowledge tied to his claims only what appears from his screen.
 
Are you seriously saying this? He has not contributed not even one actual proof on any claims he ever made. I called him out specifically and he never presented one test.

All he did was bark and nothing bite, at least readalot actually followed through with his pursuit of harm reduction.

Ghoul is a narcissist who only cares about presenting himself as someone of an authority, no experience or personal knowledge tied to his claims only what appears from his screen.
he doesn't need proof, he doesn't have to convince anyone, he doesn't owe anyone anything... He wasn't selling anything...
Many posts of his were thought provoking and led me me and others to do our own research

you guys are like crabs in a bucket

You are either lying or retarded if you didn't learn anything from ghoul
 
he doesn't need proof, he doesn't have to convince anyone, he doesn't owe anyone anything... He wasn't selling anything...
Many posts of his were thought provoking and led me me and others to do our own research

you guys are like crabs in a bucket

You are either lying or retarded if you didn't learn anything from ghoul
Ya everyone says Ghoul is da man :p
 
he doesn't need proof, he doesn't have to convince anyone, he doesn't owe anyone anything... He wasn't selling anything...
Many posts of his were thought provoking and led me me and others to do our own research

you guys are like crabs in a bucket

You are either lying or retarded if you didn't learn anything from ghoul
I'd say it was 50/50. Half of what he put out there was conjecture and made up stuff. Like reading that an elephant has 4 fat legs therefore everything with 4 fat legs is an elephant. You say it might be a hippo or a rhino and he throws in irrelevant stuff or changes topic :D
I stopped arguing with him on many things because there was no point. he wasn't causing harm with his extrapolations, but there was a decent amount of download and dump going on.
 
he doesn't need proof, he doesn't have to convince anyone, he doesn't owe anyone anything... He wasn't selling anything...
Many posts of his were thought provoking and led me me and others to do our own research

you guys are like crabs in a bucket

You are either lying or retarded if you didn't learn anything from ghoul
What I learned from Ghoul is there is a lot of weak minded people in this world who will listen to and follow a stranger’s advice if he speaks like he knows what he’s talking about. Ghoul had zero first hand knowledge of anything except maybe pimples, hair loss, obesity and ED. He was not credentialed, licensed, or educated in anything he spoke about. He used AI to provide his responses. No one is as smart as he thinks himself to be. If he was he wouldn’t spend every waking moment on steroid forums passing himself off as an authority on just about every topic in existence.

Which makes one wonder. Why does a fatty who doesn’t lift or use steroids choose to devote his entire existence to steroid forums.
 
Bro was trying to argue with me about an American office closure in my country. I didn't even have the energy to respond to him.
He did give a lot of great advice on many things too.
 
Bro was trying to argue with me about an American office closure in my country. I didn't even have the energy to respond to him.
He did give a lot of great advice on many things too.
He was giving legal advice for people in Germany which is completely inappropriate. This was with the whole letters going out from their law enforcement. If it's not my country just keep my mouth shut cuz I don't know jack shit about it
 
What I learned from Ghoul is there is a lot of weak minded people in this world who will listen to and follow a stranger’s advice if he speaks like he knows what he’s talking about. Ghoul had zero first hand knowledge of anything except maybe pimples, hair loss, obesity and ED. He was not credentialed, licensed, or educated in anything he spoke about. He used AI to provide his responses. No one is as smart as he thinks himself to be. If he was he wouldn’t spend every waking moment on steroid forums passing himself off as an authority on just about every topic in existence.

Which makes one wonder. Why does a fatty who doesn’t lift or use steroids choose to devote his entire existence to steroid forums.
oh i guess we will all just shut the fuck up until a random doctor comes on here, we all know how infallible they are.
licenses and credentials haha... what a midwit opinion, appeal to authority fallacy etc...
 
oh i guess we will all just shut the fuck up until a random doctor comes on here, we all know how infallible they are.
licenses and credentials haha... what a midwit opinion, appeal to authority fallacy etc...
You're conflating issues. Bro gave advice on every gortdamn thing :D :D .
That is a tell tale sign. It's not about appealing to authority. It's someone pretending to be an all round authority and not ceding to a better argument when there is one.
Dude even wanted to take on Jano on some things and quickly posted up googled up labels till Jano dismissed the image with fact.
That's when I realised that ghoul will datadump just to win an argument.
Again, I never tackled him where there wasn't harm being done, but sometimes it's good to call out BS, especially when some people just gobble up any info without sifting.
Don't get me started about the Erythropoetin blunder he posted because he didn't google deeply enough. He just found a line that corroborated his argument and jumped on it. I called him out with data, he doubled down.
There was no point in me going deeper as this is MESO not JAMA. Ain't no body trynna hear about: "an incidence of 1/1000000 person hours".
His filtering campaign at the core was correct... but oversold!
 
Plus the fear mongering & cherry picking.

Probably have a bunch of noobz thinking they need to filter GH or they're gonna become immune to it.

If you read the actual links he posted, they didn't support his point, but he would highlight a phrase and take it out of context to support whatever he was trying to convince people of.

He wasn't very good at science'ing.
 
he doesn't need proof, he doesn't have to convince anyone, he doesn't owe anyone anything... He wasn't selling anything...
Many posts of his were thought provoking and led me me and others to do our own research

you guys are like crabs in a bucket

You are either lying or retarded if you didn't learn anything from ghoul
Hey, you’re free to fawn over him all you want. I give him props and even agree with him on some issues but that doesn’t take away the fact that he makes lots of bullshit claims.

If you learn from him then good for you, he didn’t bring anything new to me because I am not retarded lol.
 
That's when I realised that ghoul will datadump just to win an argument.
Again, I never tackled him where there wasn't harm being done, but sometimes it's good to call out BS,
I've seen a few things i didn't agree with but can't be fucked to argue. For any argument someone can materialize some sort of counter argument and some people seem to take things very personal when you don't follow their narrative. Sometime I go full autist in power reading mode but I generally don't have the time for mental gymnastics.
 
He had little idea what he was talking about. Confronted him on a few posts, which he mostly ignored.

For instance here, he stated that tesamorelin increased GH secretion up to 3 weeks after administration and that it can't produce supra-physiological GH levels. This was one of my first encounters of his posts, and at that time I thought he was a qsc shill.

The cracks really showed when he was trying to offer medical advice, for instance here or here and he could never sustain a counter argument, so he always just disappeared. And this are just three topics that I interacted with him, I didn't go out of my way to comb through his posts.

I concur with the idea that he was just a basement nerd farming likes and posts. All in all I am happy he is gone.
 
Plus the fear mongering & cherry picking.

Probably have a bunch of noobz thinking they need to filter GH or they're gonna become immune to it.

If you read the actual links he posted, they didn't support his point, but he would highlight a phrase and take it out of context to support whatever he was trying to convince people of.

He wasn't very good at science'ing.
I always said that thing. Common things occur commonly. If people were getting immune to things all this while, fora like MESO and SST etc will be filled complaints about GH not working.
I wasn't going to argue as I think It's good to filter, but I mean..
That was why a lot of his AAS arguments were weak. Folk have been doing gear for years so anecdotes weren't lacking to fill in for research gaps. Peptides are relatively newer outside of organised research. That allows people to plug in knowledge gaps with whatever they experience or they google up.
Then there was bringing up research data to trump UGL experiences, then when you bring up research data to back up some UGL experiences he reverses to say research is controlled, UGL is wild and non controlled so we can rely on the research data.
Anyway, Goodluck to him now that he is back :D
 
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