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fatsoneedstrt

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hello i need some help here or any links to what my problem is. i tried searching but i can not find anything that gives me a concrete answer.

backstory i done a few dozen brews by now. i am not an expert but i have a good clue what i am doing. i always follow the homebrew calculator just to double check my work.
i used all the same items as my last batch which was like 8 weeks ago. BA and BB same grape seed oil, and same raws etc

blood work confirmed the testosterone was good. i did not send the product for testing

the only thing i changed was the amount of testosterone enanthate in this new batch.
my last batch was at 200mg/mL and this new batch with picture i just uploaded is 400mg/mL

i seen pictures with moisture in the finished oils and usually its just a a small swirl in the finished oils.
my brew looks entirely creamy chalk chalky like cloudy etc

yes i have a magnetic stirrer and i did use heat once i couldnt get the color to change. i didnt over heat things. just enough "heat" to melt the raws but the color did not change.

has anyone ever had this happen to them? and if so what its the problem and how do i fix it? i will make a new batch and not risk it but i am trying to correct any mistakes i made. any advice would be helpful.

is 400mg/mL too much for testosterone enanthate?
 

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fatsoneedstrt said:
hello i need some help here or any links to what my problem is. i tried searching but i can not find anything that gives me a concrete answer.

backstory i done a few dozen brews by now. i am not an expert but i have a good clue what i am doing. i always follow the homebrew calculator just to double check my work.
i used all the same items as my last batch which was like 8 weeks ago. BA and BB same grape seed oil, and same raws etc

blood work confirmed the testosterone was good. i did not send the product for testing

the only thing i changed was the amount of testosterone enanthate in this new batch.
my last batch was at 200mg/mL and this new batch with picture i just uploaded is 400mg/mL

i seen pictures with moisture in the finished oils and usually its just a a small swirl in the finished oils.
my brew looks entirely creamy chalk chalky like cloudy etc

yes i have a magnetic stirrer and i did use heat once i couldnt get the color to change. i didnt over heat things. just enough "heat" to melt the raws but the color did not change.

has anyone ever had this happen to them? and if so what its the problem and how do i fix it? i will make a new batch and not risk it but i am trying to correct any mistakes i made. any advice would be helpful.

is 400mg/mL too much for testosterone enanthate?
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something doesn't add up ,,
 
I have no reason to lie. It could be my bb or ba or grapeseed oil went bad. Once i have extra money around i will send the product for testing. I just cant do it right now.
 
fatsoneedstrt said:
I have no reason to lie. It could be my bb or ba or grapeseed oil went bad. Once i have extra money around i will send the product for testing. I just cant do it right now.
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Very doubtful.

That means the raws must be different (but from the same source)


200 test E in GSO. Add 1% BA.

It should still hold.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
Very doubtful.

That means the raws must be different (but from the same source)


200 test E in GSO. Add 1% BA.

It should still hold.
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Yes thats what i was thinking too since there is a scarce of raws at the moment. Half my raws are bunk fake but from the same source. Once i have the test i will expose them if thats the case. I never seen something like this happen to a brew thats why i wanted to share.
 
fatsoneedstrt said:
Yes thats what i was thinking too since there is a scarce of raws at the moment. Half my raws are bunk fake but from the same source. Once i have the test i will expose them if thats the case. I never seen something like this happen to a brew thats why i wanted to share.
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What was the source?
 
fatsoneedstrt said:
Eventually i am going to make a new batch with the same raws. I will also send the raws for testing. Maybe it was human error. I dont want to be spreading misinformation especially if i made a mistake. Once i have the test i will post it.
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I doubt it human error but test e 200 should hold with BB or BA.

Should also be clear with high heat
 
fatsoneedstrt said:
last batch was at 200mg/mL and this new batch with picture i just uploaded is 400mg/mL
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This isn't test e 200 you have like that tho thats double ?? Test e 400? Looks thick lmfao, im sorry! Making me confident to not use any new unknown vendors atm.

dosnt matter either way just trying to clarify something in my brain.
 
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From the photo it looks like humidity, or maybe the quality of the oil. Some time ago I lost 1L of Sustanon by using an oil of dubious quality, the appearance was the same as your mixture.
 
so i didnt give up on my issue. i made a new batch with the same raws at 200mg/ml and everything went as usual. the oil had its original color.

so i tried to fix my issue which was with the brew of 400mg/mL. i said what do i have to lose at this point.
so i put it back on the magnetic hot plate stirrer and eventually little by little the oil started to clear up and the raws melted.
like i said i never done a batch at 400mg/ml so i was worried using too much heat would damage the raws.
usually 2- 3 minutes of heat is all you need with a batch of 200mg/ml
the 400mg/ml took about 10 minutes of heat easily plus additional stirring.
im worried this might damage the raws. i think i will stick to max 300 mg/ml when it comes to testosterone raw powders.
i make small batches of brew. so these numbers are for batches smaller than 50 mls of oil

im letting the vial sit out for a week or two to see if it changes back again but so far its looking good

can someone one confirm or deny the heating times for brews around these amounts and dosages?
 
fatsoneedstrt said:
so i didnt give up on my issue. i made a new batch with the same raws at 200mg/ml and everything went as usual. the oil had its original color.

so i tried to fix my issue which was with the brew of 400mg/mL. i said what do i have to lose at this point.
so i put it back on the magnetic hot plate stirrer and eventually little by little the oil started to clear up and the raws melted.
like i said i never done a batch at 400mg/ml so i was worried using too much heat would damage the raws.
usually 2- 3 minutes of heat is all you need with a batch of 200mg/ml
the 400mg/ml took about 10 minutes of heat easily plus additional stirring.
im worried this might damage the raws. i think i will stick to max 300 mg/ml when it comes to testosterone raw powders.
i make small batches of brew. so these numbers are for batches smaller than 50 mls of oil

im letting the vial sit out for a week or two to see if it changes back again but so far its looking good

can someone one confirm or deny the heating times for brews around these amounts and dosages?
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It sounds like you are only using oil and powder?
What oil, what bb/ba %?
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
Very doubtful.

That means the raws must be different (but from the same source)


200 test E in GSO. Add 1% BA.

It should still hold.
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I'm a dummy. Adding more BB or an additional 'rescue' solvent like Guiacol or Ethyl Lactate (IMO much better) would work. I've had shit crash before but this looks like a clusterfuck or idunno what.
 
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fatsoneedstrt said:
so i didnt give up on my issue. i made a new batch with the same raws at 200mg/ml and everything went as usual. the oil had its original color.

so i tried to fix my issue which was with the brew of 400mg/mL. i said what do i have to lose at this point.
so i put it back on the magnetic hot plate stirrer and eventually little by little the oil started to clear up and the raws melted.
like i said i never done a batch at 400mg/ml so i was worried using too much heat would damage the raws.
usually 2- 3 minutes of heat is all you need with a batch of 200mg/ml
the 400mg/ml took about 10 minutes of heat easily plus additional stirring.
im worried this might damage the raws. i think i will stick to max 300 mg/ml when it comes to testosterone raw powders.
i make small batches of brew. so these numbers are for batches smaller than 50 mls of oil

im letting the vial sit out for a week or two to see if it changes back again but so far its looking good

can someone one confirm or deny the heating times for brews around these amounts and dosages?
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Not to nitpick but what percentage of solvent did you use? Most can get away with 1% BA and 15% BB but using GSO or more viscous carriers the standy 20% will hold 400mg unless raws are total shit. Pls clarify bro.
 
Pez'sAnabolicJunta said:
I'm a dummy. Adding more BB or an additional 'rescue' solvent like Guiacol or Ethyl Lactate (IMO much better) would work. I've had shit crash before but this looks like a clusterfuck or idunno what.
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That is not a crash. There is something wrong with the ingredients

You shouldnt need any Solvent at 250mg/ml. (possibly in GSO) but it shouldnt even look like that. ESPECIALLY OVER A HOT PLATE
 
fatsoneedstrt said:
hello i need some help here or any links to what my problem is. i tried searching but i can not find anything that gives me a concrete answer.

backstory i done a few dozen brews by now. i am not an expert but i have a good clue what i am doing. i always follow the homebrew calculator just to double check my work.
i used all the same items as my last batch which was like 8 weeks ago. BA and BB same grape seed oil, and same raws etc

blood work confirmed the testosterone was good. i did not send the product for testing

the only thing i changed was the amount of testosterone enanthate in this new batch.
my last batch was at 200mg/mL and this new batch with picture i just uploaded is 400mg/mL

i seen pictures with moisture in the finished oils and usually its just a a small swirl in the finished oils.
my brew looks entirely creamy chalk chalky like cloudy etc

yes i have a magnetic stirrer and i did use heat once i couldnt get the color to change. i didnt over heat things. just enough "heat" to melt the raws but the color did not change.

has anyone ever had this happen to them? and if so what its the problem and how do i fix it? i will make a new batch and not risk it but i am trying to correct any mistakes i made. any advice would be helpful.

is 400mg/mL too much for testosterone enanthate?
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Looks like diddy juice
 
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