I was on tirz for a while and I had no where near the elevated HR that I do now. I was as low as 60's even on 7.5mg per week.
I wanted to give Reta a try given all the hype for it.
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I wanted to give Reta a try given all the hype for it.
BP_6
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Yea I too read up on it and was about 50/50 and the place was going to buy it from just happened to be out of stock on the low mg I wanted for starting so I said well that is the gear gods making the choice for me. We shall see as I go farther in. However, most likely they are both excellent choices overall and should do what you want in both cases.
Turbo charged
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Been in the game a long time what kills or stops guy on steroids is high blood pressure the number 1 thing period. Also kidney failure which is caused by high blood pressure. You kidneys get destroyed from high blood pressure and kidneys don't recover. Is you have to take prescription blood pressure meds at high doses to try and control it is just a bandaid. Stop taking the juice for awhile or lower the dose to a trt dose no more than 200 a week till you get your blood pressure under control with out blood pressure meds. Now if you need blood pressure meds and you are not even take gear then guess what you can't take gear period. It's not what you want to do it's what your body tells you what you can do. Wise the hell up. It's like these young guys on here taking 400 mgs of tren or tren at all and never did a bodybuilding show pathetic. Then I hear guys on here in there 20s cruise after there cycle. WTF is cruise go the fuck off.
What is the difference between a medication controlled 110/70 and a natural 110/70?
Turbo charged
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Like I said if you can't control your blood pressure on prescription blood pressure medication while on gear then lower the gear. If you can that's different but taking high amounts of prescription blood pressure meds to do it comes with a price. Nothing wrong with taking prescription blood pressure meds at all at low dose to keep in check and higher on big cycles if need be for a short time if your going into a show.
I misread your original comment as don't take anabolics if you need to take BP meds with them but I gotcha now. We are on the same page on this.
BamaCrazy
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Not that I’m disagreeing with you but what’s the price? Truly curious.
Turbo charged
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High doses of blood pressure meds can cause unwanted side effects in themselves even liver jaundice on certain ones among a lot of other effects.
explodingHeart
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Turbo charged
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Lisinopril, Labetalol, Losartan, Amlodipine, and Methyldopa. Do your own research
BP_6
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This isn't a instagram/FB forum page. Do your own research doesn't fly well here.
BamaCrazy
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If you are referring to elevated liver enzymes and liver damage, while that may be possible on those meds the occurrence is rare. One study claimed less than a dozen cases reported with lisinopril.
Turbo charged
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They do raise liver enzymes to a degree add with steroids which do also and it's not good
Turbo charged
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Really I didn't know that I am new here. Give me a break.let me guess you take tren and never ever competed.
You can't come into a thread and make claims without proof.
You're also taking a very informative thread and cluttering it with shit throwing for no reason.
BP_6
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Yes, I have take tren. However at 50 years old, not for a bit of time. Second, I did compete in powerlifting from about the age of 26 until about the age 41 when I stopped. So you shouldn't just make assumptions.
Turbo charged
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Well I save my ifbb pro card and have not competed in 9 years I am a trainer of many guys and women in the body building community. Seen it all. Done most of it. In my wary 50s also. But what do I know seems everyone has the answers here.
You made the claim so it's your responsibility to support it. Oh, and take your appeal to (alleged) authority and shove it up your bunghole.
Turbo charged
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Go get your shine box kid
This thread’s been solid so far, let’s not mess it up with “just Google it, bro” energy. If you’ve got good info, links, or actual experience - drop it in. Help the crew out.
Anyway - about blood pressure meds:
Yeah, high doses can mess with your liver. It’s rare, but it happens - especially if you’re stacking a pharmacy in your bloodstream. A few examples:
1. Lisinopril – Great for BP, but in rare cases can make your liver throw a tantrum (elevated enzymes, jaundice, etc).
2. Amlodipine – Usually chill, but can bump up liver values when it’s feeling spicy.
3. Losartan – Mostly safe, but there are case reports of liver issues, just to keep things interesting.
That’s why bloodwork is non-negotiable. ALT, AST, ALP, bilirubin - your standard liver panel. Trust me, your liver will thank you later (probably by not quitting mid-cycle).
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Anyway - about blood pressure meds:
Yeah, high doses can mess with your liver. It’s rare, but it happens - especially if you’re stacking a pharmacy in your bloodstream. A few examples:
1. Lisinopril – Great for BP, but in rare cases can make your liver throw a tantrum (elevated enzymes, jaundice, etc).
2. Amlodipine – Usually chill, but can bump up liver values when it’s feeling spicy.
3. Losartan – Mostly safe, but there are case reports of liver issues, just to keep things interesting.
That’s why bloodwork is non-negotiable. ALT, AST, ALP, bilirubin - your standard liver panel. Trust me, your liver will thank you later (probably by not quitting mid-cycle).
Lisinopril-Induced Liver Injury: An Unusual Presentation and Literature Review - PubMed
Angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitors (ACE-I) rarely have serious or life-threatening side effects.Lisinopril-induced liver injury can present as hepatocellular or cholestatic injury.Severe hepatotoxicity secondary to lisinopril can be life threatening irrespective of the liver injury pattern.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
A possible increase in liver enzymes due to amlodipine: A case report - PubMed
Amlodipine is a commonly prescribed antihypertensive drug, well tolerated and has rarely been attributed as a cause for elevated liver enzymes. Here, we present a 47-year-old male patient known to be hypertensive and admitted to our rehabilitation facility after an acute stroke. During his stay...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Losartan-induced hepatic injury - PubMed
Losartan, an angiotensin II receptor antagonist, is widely used for the treatment of hypertension. Clinical experience with this drug has demonstrated that it is safe. Losartan-induced hepatic toxicity is extremely rare. We report a case of severe hepatic toxicity and fibrosis caused by losartan...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
