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fw190jd

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Greetings All,

Maybe need a tune up here and make some adjustments, the issues is my libido, really hit or miss, more miss than hit.

I'm at currenlty at :
120mg Test C week = 2x 60mg
Trezep 7.5 mg
5mg Cials per day
2.5 mg AI 2x week
NAD + 5x
Tesmorlin 5x
CJC295 3x
Basic Suppliments

63yo

CW = 186 poungd , H 5'6"

doing 200mg of sinadefil on date or 20mg of cials starts out okay then not so much , PTP141 500mcg 2x week

Hopefully arriving next month , Primo

Recent labs atttached, I messed up and had it done 2 days after my second injection of 60mg of test.

I just dont want to start guessing here on how to fix the libio, everything elese is right on track, workouts, weight is coing off at 1.5 pound week lost total 15lbs .

BP is 130-135 /78, P = 65

Should I just stop everythig for a month and reset ? add another compound ?

I've read through many threads on this simlier issue
 
What are you using for an AI? The thing that sticks out most is your estrogen. It's not crazy given your total Test, but I'd say it needs to be around 40-60. Ordinarily wouldn't worry about it. Estrogen is needed, but you are having E2-sounding sides. When you say libido, do you mean desire or erection quality? Also, the Test is a bit high, but I get it. Better to burn out than fade away.

If that 2.5mg twice a week of AI is Arimidex, I'd think your E2 would be crushed unless the Arimidex is bunk. If it's Aromasin, try bumping up a little.
 
The only thing that can be related to low libido from your bloodwork is your e2 levels. Prolactin and shbg are good. Get that under control first.

It's worthwhile to get a full panel to rule out any issues with thyroid. Be patient, if you're adding primo that's gonna take longer to get everything else under control.

You could also add HCG to help with libido, but from your post it seems that's a lot of missing information and too much is being done at once. So HCG recommendation is somewhat skeptical.
 
nullandvoid said:
What are you using for an AI? The thing that sticks out most is your estrogen. It's not crazy given your total Test, but I'd say it needs to be around 40-60. Ordinarily wouldn't worry about it. Estrogen is needed, but you are having E2-sounding sides. When you say libido, do you mean desire or erection quality? Also, the Test is a bit high, but I get it. Better to burn out than fade away.

If that 2.5mg twice a week of AI is Arimidex, I'd think your E2 would be crushed unless the Arimidex is bunk. If it's Aromasin, try bumping up a little.
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Well at first everything is okay but desire isn't it as effortless as it used to be haha I have to actually think about it now and then I get all hot and clammy and then we go to lymph weenie so the erection starts out good but then it goes to lymphinie
 
@Ghoul might be a good resource here for the issue of desire.

I would tentatively say you might need to experiment with higher doses of PT-141 but only taken on the days you want to be riled up. I'm not experienced with PT-141 myself. I don't like it. It makes me feel sick.. not just nauseous either. It'll put me in the bed for a few hours.
 
You would be better served by a single larger dose of Pt-141 than multiple small doses.

Small doses induce erections, but do little for libido. In prescription form, the dose for women is 1.7mg x2 week. I find 2.5mg-3mg is what it takes to work properly for me.

Many PT-141 users don't seem to realize this is a completely different experience to low doses, and boosts libido for days.
 
Thank you so much for your response I am going to try a larger dose I met with my clinician yesterday and she gave me great news. She's made some adjustments we're going to do some more blood work next week after a 7-Day pause on testosterone and then we'll adjust accordingly. I also didn't realize that I have Pharma options available if I want to dip my toe into some different types of steroids.
 
Ghoul said:
You would be better served by a single larger dose of Pt-141 than multiple small doses.

Small doses induce erections, but do little for libido. In prescription form, the dose for women is 1.7mg x2 week. I find 2.5mg-3mg is what it takes to work properly for me.

Many PT-141 users don't seem to realize this is a completely different experience to low doses, and boosts libido for days.
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Yeah the 3mg dose did the trick, like nailing a toothpick through a steel beam
 
fw190jd said:
Yeah the 3mg dose did the trick, like nailing a toothpick through a steel beam
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PT-141 is more like a switch than a dial. Half the correct dose isn't half the effect, more like 10%.

The benefits linger for a few days at the correct dose, too.
 
I tried PT-141 two times, first time just flush and some nausea, second time more intense and felt overall like shit. At least it works for some people.
 
That's the way it is for me. I have nearly a whole kit in the fridge I can't use. It lays me out. I remember screwing up one time and injecting 5mg of MT2 instead of Tirz. That put me in the bed for nearly the whole day. I can tolerate MT2 like a champ, too. It's one of my few superpowers, but 5mg was a bit much. Anyway, the PT-141 makes me feel similarly at even lower doses.
 
forhealth87 said:
I tried PT-141 two times, first time just flush and some nausea, second time more intense and felt overall like shit. At least it works for some people.
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nullandvoid said:
That's the way it is for me. I have nearly a whole kit in the fridge I can't use. It lays me out. I remember screwing up one time and injecting 5mg of MT2 instead of Tirz. That put me in the bed for nearly the whole day. I can tolerate MT2 like a champ, too. It's one of my few superpowers, but 5mg was a bit much. Anyway, the PT-141 makes me feel similarly at even lower doses.
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Two quick points. I find at lower doses, ie, sub 2.5mg, you're prone to getting all the sides and few of the benefits.

~If you tried that dose and got nothing positive out of it then I'd say it may not be for you.

~With each subsequent use, sides seem to lessen until they're nearly non-existent in my experience. The first 2-3 times are the worst, almost like Semaglutide GI sides. Then the sides are no more than an initial passing nausea that lasts about a minute.

The reduction of sides seems to be very long lasting. Even if you don't do it for months, it's never as bad as the first few attempts.

Try to ensure the volume is not less than .5ml for the 2.5mg, Otherwise, it gets absorbed too quickly intensifying sides. The greater the dilution. the gentler it is.
 
Ghoul said:
Two quick points. I find at lower doses, ie, sub 2.5mg, you're prone to getting all the sides and few of the benefits.

~If you tried that dose and got nothing positive out of it then I'd say it may not be for you.

~With each subsequent use, sides seem to lessen until they're nearly non-existent in my experience. The first 2-3 times are the worst, almost like Semaglutide GI sides. Then the sides are no more than an initial passing nausea that lasts about a minute.

The reduction of sides seems to be very long lasting. Even if you don't do it for months, it's never as bad as the first few attempts.

Try to ensure the volume is not less than .5ml for the 2.5mg, Otherwise, it gets absorbed too quickly intensifying sides. The greater the dilution. the gentler it is.
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The more frequent you use it in smaller doses the better you can tolerate higher doses later i.e. i like using 1mg every 3-4 days and when the girlfriend comes over 3-5mg which lasts for 48-72h with ease.

I also noticed when taking high doses of PT141 that my craving for sugary stuff is greatly suppressed, not sure if thats because i think of just fucking around or other mechanisms.
 
Nidus said:
The more frequent you use it in smaller doses the better you can tolerate higher doses later i.e. i like using 1mg every 3-4 days and when the girlfriend comes over 3-5mg which lasts for 48-72h with ease.

I also noticed when taking high doses of PT141 that my craving for sugary stuff is greatly suppressed, not sure if thats because i think of just fucking around or other mechanisms.
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PT-141 agonizes Melanocortin 4 receptors, slowing gastric emptying (like a GLP) and suppresses appetite. Some people have a genetic variant that makes them lack functional MC4 receptors, so food gets digested very quickly, usually resulting in obesity.


Because of this, taking PT-141 on an empty stomach so food doesn't get "stuck" in your digestive track too long, is a good idea (or you'll end up with diarrhea or constipation). You can eat after, just don't go beyond your (reduced) appetite and you'll be fine.

Beyond libido I usually feel energized on it with improved sleep as well.
 
man, the amount of people taking NAD without taking TMG is actually scary. i wouldn’t have even known it could cause issues before i asked the AI, hey, what’s wrong with my supplement stack, i had to interrogate it for a while but still. TMG literally prevents the NAD from making proteins build up in your blood by replenishing the depleted methyl donor groups.
 
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