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[BalticSea]

All GH sent from china?

Right.

 

[markus holland]

HGH 24IU from group buy.
9 days from ordering to delivery in EU.

 

[Fizzik]

SSA TNE smells like it's just 100% pure guaiacol. You literally start breathing it out moments after injecting. Not great

I had a similar experience with Mast E from Q. I believe there is some solvent besides BB. Only used a part of one bottle chucked the rest out. Instant headache after pinning and could taste it. Strong smell from vial after pinning. They claim they didn't use anything but BB, but not sure on that one.

 

[svc7]

Do you have any ETA on mast e oils?

 

[VakarianSK]

I had a similar experience with Mast E from Q. I believe there is some solvent besides BB. Only used a part of one bottle chucked the rest out. Instant headache after pinning and could taste it. Strong smell from vial after pinning. They claim they didn't use anything but BB, but not sure on that one.

Could be EO, I know a few Chinese vendors who use that in their mast.

 

[MuscularMD]

Is the H36 text bold or normal on the box lid?

I got my H36 results from @janoshik . @SigmaAudley China Peptide wanted to post the results. I'll wait for them to post it in order to get some credit. I think they look good though . Someone more knowledgeable than me can interpret.

For comparison, this is the original vendor report.

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Sampei]

I got my H36 results from @janoshik . @SigmaAudley China Peptide wanted to post the results. I'll wait for them to post it in order to get some credit. I think they look good though . Someone more knowledgeable than me can interpret.

For comparison, this is the original vendor report.

Janoshik Analytical

you get the credit anyway lol post it

 

[MuscularMD]

you get the credit anyway lol post it

I ordered a few kits and sent off two vials, one from separate kits for better sampling representation. This was from the H36 promo of $130/kit around mid March. The BATCH is my order date.

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Sampei]

I ordered a few kits and sent off two vials, one from separate kits for better sampling representation. This was from the H36 promo of $130/kit around mid March. The BATCH is my order date.

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Janoshik Analytical

great result indeed

 

[Ryobi]

I ordered a few kits and sent off two vials, one from separate kits for better sampling representation. This was from the H36 promo of $130/kit around mid March. The BATCH is my order date.

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Janoshik Analytical

Do they advertise that it comes with dimer ? From what I understand the with diner hgh is more prone to side effects?

 

[MuscularMD]

Do they advertise that it comes with dimer ? From what I understand the with diner hgh is more prone to side effects?

I added Dimer testing to my order. I think all HGH has some level of dimer. Just a matter of what's considered OK?! @Ghoul would know more.

 

[Sampei]

Do they advertise that it comes with dimer ? From what I understand the with diner hgh is more prone to side effects?

bro that's no dimer xD
Pharma HGH allow up to 4% dimer
that's 0.XXX% it's NOTHING

 

[Sampei]

I added Dimer testing to my order. I think all HGH has some level of dimer. Just a matter of what's considered OK?! @Ghoul would know more.

up to 4%

 

[Ryobi]

I added Dimer testing to my order. I think all HGH has some level of dimer. Just a matter of what's considered OK?! @Ghoul would know more.

Thanks for clarifying and doing the test you’re appreciated. I must assume then that all hgh has dimer as a result of impurity.

 

[Ryobi]

bro that's no dimer xD
Pharma HGH allow up to 4% dimer
that's 0.XXX% it's NOTHING

Awesome looks like I may have to switch form sry to ssa hgh the price is identical but this test result instilled more confidence in their product.

 

[Sampei]

Awesome looks like I may have to switch form sry to ssa hgh the price is identical but this test result instilled more confidence in their product.

SSA over SRY everyday mate.

 

[MuscularMD]

bro that's no dimer xD
Pharma HGH allow up to 4% dimer
that's 0.XXX% it's NOTHING

Thanks for educating me! I'm new to this, hence the testing

 

[piggy_nui]

I ordered a few kits and sent off two vials, one from separate kits for better sampling representation. This was from the H36 promo of $130/kit around mid March. The BATCH is my order date.

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Janoshik Analytical

Friend, is that the one with flip off writing on the top?

 

[Ghoul]

I added Dimer testing to my order. I think all HGH has some level of dimer. Just a matter of what's considered OK?! @Ghoul would know more.

Dimer is essentially the smallest type of aggregate. Two monomers attached to each other.

The largest aggregates can be comprised of tens of thousands of monomers.

rHGH dimer isn't a major concern as it doesn't present a health risk. It's just less bioactive than monomer, so there's a weaker response.

The UGL community became fixated on it a few years ago, though the vast majority couldn't tell you what it is or why it matters.

UGL manufacturers responded to this by including a filtration step to remove it,

Large aggregates, unlike dimer, are not active as rHGH and DO present health risks, form as a result of instability of the formulation and poor handling, and as we've discussed, these contaminants are filtered out before analysis and are not measured at all. The rHGH could contain a massive amount of large aggregates, which would be completely unacceptable in a regulated pharmaceutical (and often results in the failure of new peptide drugs to get approval), and still come back as 99% pure even if it's only 70% pure had the aggregates been included.

I keep repeating this analogy so it'll sink in:

It's like testing your drinking water for safety and purity after filtering it, then based on the good result, drinking straight from the tap.

If you want to inject the purity level you see in the analysis, you need to filter the same way (.22um PES) it's filtered prior to being analyzed.

 

[Bizzark1]

Dimer is essentially the smallest type of aggregate. Two monomers attached to each other.

The largest aggregates can be comprised of tens of thousands of monomers.

rHGH dimer isn't a major concern as it doesn't present a health risk. It's just less bioactive than monomer, so there's a weaker response.

The UGL community became fixated on it a few years ago, though the vast majority couldn't tell you what it is or why it matters.

UGL manufacturers responded to this by including a filtration step to remove it,

Large aggregates, unlike dimer, are not active as rHGH and DO present health risks, form as a result of instability of the formulation and poor handling, and as we've discussed, these contaminants are filtered out before analysis and are not measured at all. The rHGH could contain a massive amount of large aggregates, which would be completely unacceptable in a regulated pharmaceutical (and often results in the failure of new peptide drugs to get approval), and still come back as 99% pure even if it's only 70% pure had the aggregates been included.

I keep repeating this analogy so it'll sink in:

It's like testing your drinking water for safety and purity after filtering it, then based on the good result, drinking straight from the tap.

If you want to inject the purity level you see in the analysis, you need to filter the same way (.22um PES) it's filtered prior to being analyzed.

That's very interesting.

Do you mean Janoshik filters prior to performing HPLC?