Help formulating mass monster cycle

[malfeasance]

Ddbate what? Of course on someone who's 5'8 it's gonna look a lot more. 6' and over we talk at least about 15lbs to get the same effect as the shorter guy.

Well, your math is off for only 6', but that is pretty close to what I wrote in the post following the one you quoted.

 

[lukiss96]

Well, your math is off for only 6', but that is pretty close to what I wrote in the post following the one you quoted.

I think it's irrelevant who's more right or whatever. We both know that taller man needs more lbm at the end of the day. Bodybuilding is not about height right?

 

[Slowww]

Guess he meant Fasted glucose or so.
Either way Hba1c would take some time to recover, same for the Homa Index.
Seen enough bloodwork of people running MK for a months and both values went to shit like crazy.

Same, seen a very bad case first hand with a friend who is a powerlifter not listen to cycle advice about using hgh, and instead used mk677 because of the cost and thinking it would help bulk. Eventually he ended up in a diabetic state and the kicker was it barely did anything legitimately helpful because the insulin resistance negated the effects on hunger. Took months to reverse for arguably very little in return except that now he considers BG for himself and his clients

 

[Nidus]

Same, seen a very bad case first hand with a friend who is a powerlifter not listen to cycle advice about using hgh, and instead used mk677 because of the cost and thinking it would help bulk. Eventually he ended up in a diabetic state and the kicker was it barely did anything legitimately helpful because the insulin resistance negated the effects on hunger. Took months to reverse for arguably very little in return except that now he considers BG for himself and his clients

In my own experience, Hba1c improves quicker than the Homa Index. I am working on reversing my T2D (been a fatty) and once you reach that stage, it takes a lot of time and by all means, you really wanna pay more attention to your Hba1c and Homa in general

Its so easy to fuck them up and takes twice if not even thrice as much time to fix that

 

[mrsloppyboo]

A bulk and cut that ends at 10% at 185 pounds would be a big difference from 175. It is literally about 6% more muscle after than before. That is a huge difference.

lukiss96, taking your point to its logical conclusion, you just need to do the same math. Add 6% to your muscle (not bodyweight, lol). All this means is that if you are at 10% at 210 and do not look huge because you are 6'5" or whatever, then you need to be 10% at 223 pounds to get the same visual difference. It's not that much more than 10 pounds (12-13 pounds).

Arguably, though, 210 at 6'5" is smaller than 175 pounds at 5'8". A dude that tall would need to be more like 235-240 to duplicate the OP's look at 175 pounds, so 235 x .06 = 14, so more like 14 pounds to make the same approximate before and after visual difference in appearance to the taller dude's physique.

This is over the course of 2 bulking and cutting cycles in a total of one year

 

[brutalbuilt]

Said who? You? You sound like you doesn't know a lot about these drugs.

says anyone who did any type of research... igf-1 blood test only test serum not in muscle dummy

theres guys who test low igf-1 but still get insane results from hgh... its not accurate at all

 

[DugPrime]

says anyone who did any type of research... igf-1 blood test only test serum not in muscle dummy

theres guys who test low igf-1 but still get insane results from hgh... its not accurate at all

Retard, IGF-1 serum levels are clinically validated as a reliable biomarker for assessing GH action in the body. So shut the fuck up.

 

[dinfar1337]

Same, seen a very bad case first hand with a friend who is a powerlifter not listen to cycle advice about using hgh, and instead used mk677 because of the cost and thinking it would help bulk. Eventually he ended up in a diabetic state and the kicker was it barely did anything legitimately helpful because the insulin resistance negated the effects on hunger. Took months to reverse for arguably very little in return except that now he considers BG for himself and his clients

Wow i only thought TikTok kids were using mk677. Especially using it to bulk is a very very bad idea. Even ChatGPT is a hater of it

 

[malfeasance]

dummy

Retard

You two can do better than this.

 

[Slowww]

Wow i only thought TikTok kids were using mk677. Especially using it to bulk is a very very bad idea. Even ChatGPT is a hater of it

No, he is a 500+ DOTS power lifter. Just became pro 2 weeks ago. Even with good genetics, hard work and good lifting programs people for sure make mistakes with PEDS if they don’t scrutinize social media content about compounds. To be fair I think it probably happens to most of us in different ways at some point

 

[dinfar1337]

No, he is a 500+ DOTS power lifter. Just became pro 2 weeks ago. Even with good genetics, hard work and good lifting programs people for sure make mistakes with PEDS if they don’t scrutinize social media content about compounds. To be fair I think it probably happens to most of us in different ways at some point

you are right, i've made my fair share of mistakes i just really hate sarms and mk677 i think its outright one of the most stupidest things to take.

 

[brutalbuilt]

You two can do better than this.

the sarms goblin not worth it i rather save my ammo for another victim

 

[knucklesamich]

Depends. It is believed that guys at or over 6' tall have to put on so much more pounds to get that kinda effect. So 10 pounds of muscles distributed on someone that tall is not that much at the end of the day. Let alone taller individuals than that.

Yep, I'm 6'3" and it is amazing the difference that one has to amass to look as good as those that are shorter. Hard on the heart too. 10lbs is a lot for someone maybe 5'8" but less noticeable depending on where the muscle ends up on someone 6' or taller. It kills me that some people can put on 30 lbs in just a month or two, but then again, what does that weight consist of? Probably not 30 lbs of muscle, more like 8 lbs of it, plus water, plus fat, etc.

I mean it gets pretty crazy depending, I think back to Rich Pianas experiment of getting up to 300 lbs. He did that quick and got to 312 I believe. So entirely possible to put on mass quicker than shit, but then again. How much did that cost? How much gear was taken to do that? I thought the dude was awesome, don't get me wrong, but that cycle was insane. f$%^ing dangerous lol, at least to the average person. Lots of years of built up tolerance.

 

[DugPrime]

Well, sure, it's great for hair. But at the doses you're talking about it's blocking 50-80% of the AR. So a 2g cycle just turned into a 400mg to 1g cycle. That's bananas to me. Just use another diuretic and dutasteride.

After looking for an alternative, my cardiologist is replacing my spironolactone with eplerenone tomorrow, thanks for letting me know.

 

[malfeasance]

I mean it gets pretty crazy depending, I think back to Rich Pianas experiment of getting up to 300 lbs. He did that quick and got to 312 I believe. So entirely possible to put on mass quicker than shit, but then again. How much did that cost? How much gear was taken to do that? I thought the dude was awesome, don't get me wrong, but that cycle was insane. f$%^ing dangerous lol, at least to the average person. Lots of years of built up tolerance.

Being dead at 46, though, I would not want to mimic anything he was doing.

. . . autopsy revealed "significant heart disease" and that his heart and liver weighed over twice the average amount for an adult male.

 

[malfeasance]

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[urmumsurdad30]

This is over the course of 2 bulking and cutting cycles in a total of one year

You shouldn't be doing any cycles let alone think about big boy stacks if all you got was -8% BF in 1 year from 2 blasts.. lol

 

[mrsloppyboo]

You shouldn't be doing any cycles let alone think about big boy stacks if all you got was -8% BF in 1 year from 2 blasts.. lol

14lbs of contractile tissue in a year isn’t good?

 

[malfeasance]

14lbs of contractile tissue in a year isn’t good?

Post before and after pics so we can assess "good" (and claimed 10% body fat).

Your original purpose was in asking about massive doses. That has been answered. Now what?

 

[Slowww]

Post before and after pics so we can assess "good" (and claimed 10% body fat).

Your original purpose was in asking about massive doses. That has been answered. Now what?

Also if OP gained 14lbs in a year, why does he need more gear? Stick with the same thing and grow! Sounds like a very good response