Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Middus]

One of the current dramas in the peptide world is how a seller got their hands on this peptide everyone wanted, but no one else was willing to sell. Turns out it's because it degrades so terribly in transportation, and anyone who'd done any amount of research should have realized this. Instead everyone is out money and everyone's pissed about it.

Sometimes there's no researching happening at all, just "this person I see posting a lot says it's great, so now I want to try it!"

If it is about Humanin, this isn't completely accurate. We've been on this Humanin issue forever. Vendors have gotten the other Mitochondrial peps bang on. Humanin on the other hand, we don't know if it is the synthesis, or it is the Testing. Domestic labs return test with higher purity and quantity than Jano. Vendors that test little quantity but high purity with Jano would sometimes test High quantity but dodgy purity with Jano. One vendor tested decently (both Jano and Prime) and I bought a batch of Humanin from them. It might have been the worst humanin in the market. Left me with itchy welts the size of Texas. I simply gave up on Humanin, especially after moving beyond all the touted anti-aging and cardioprotective benefits to see that the pathway to these benefits might(or actually) involve(s) a lowering of IGF-1 (reduced IGF being a marker of longer life).
A lot of the things we know about non-glp UGL peptides do not arise from the 'peptide world' if peptide world refers to what some derogatorily refer to as 'karen glp moms'.
Health buffs have been injecting peptides and chems way before the GLP folks entered the game. I doubt it was the typical GLP user data that prominent figures like Dr Seeds and Khavinson used to generate their protocols.
So while i would criticize someone whose protocol is 23 peptides, it's from people like that I gather info on what is bad, what's probably placebo and what negates what .
There are many things we don't have enough info on as pharma either gave up on, or used different parameters for. There are even things folks use that are untested in humans, and we have used pharma principles to calculate their human equivalent doses, and gone ahead to use/test. We need as much anecdotal info for some things as much as possible albeit obtained as safely as possible.

 

[chmuse]

No worries. Happy to stay willfully ignorant on that one.

Just remember: you're in on the joke

Also, I mean. 2001 Shakira. I assume most won't be complaining.

 

[chmuse]

If it is about Humanin, this isn't completely accurate. We've been on this Humanin issue forever. Vendors have gotten the other Mitochondrial peps bang on. Humanin on the other hand, we don't know if it is the synthesis, or it is the Testing. Domestic labs return test with higher purity and quantity than Jano. Vendors that test little quantity but high purity with Jano would sometimes test High quantity but dodgy purity with Jano. One vendor tested decently (both Jano and Prime) and I bought a batch of Humanin from them. It might have been the worst humanin in the market. Left me with itchy welts the size of Texas. I simply gave up on Humanin, especially after moving beyond all the touted anti-aging and cardioprotective benefits to see that the pathway to these benefits might(or actually) involve(s) a lowering of IGF-1 (reduced IGF being a marker of longer life).
A lot of the things we know about non-glp UGL peptides do not arise from the 'peptide world' if peptide world refers to what some derogatorily refer to as 'karen glp moms'.
Health buffs have been injecting peptides and chems way before the GLP folks entered the game. I doubt it was the typical GLP user data that prominent figures like Dr Seeds and Khavinson used to generate their protocols.
So while i would criticize someone whose protocol is 23 peptides, it's from people like that I gather info on what is bad, what's probably placebo and what negates what .
There are many things we don't have enough info on as pharma either gave up on, or used different parameters for. There are even things folks use that are untested in humans, and we have used pharma principles to calculate their human equivalent doses, and gone ahead to use/test. We need as much anecdotal info for some things as much as possible albeit obtained as safely as possible.

Thank you for being more informed than I and providing further context! I was being less than precise, because I was not one of the people involved in the whole ordeal, I've just been watching the fallout. I myself am new to all of this, and sometimes speak with an air of authority I should not. (Should I post the Dunning-Kruger effect again? It's very accurate.)

I'm sure most here would consider me an annoying Karen GLP mom, despite not being a mom (and trying not to be a Karen.) I can do nothing about how annoying I am, alas.

The Jano/ domestic testing discrepancies is another one I'm keeping my eye on. I'm very interested to see if we ever find out why. I'm way too new at this to have an informed guess.

 

[readalot]

Just remember: you're in on the joke

good point. Understood.

Also, I mean. 2001 Shakira. I assume most won't be complaining.

Catchy tune all the way xD.

 

[glpfun]

Im on tonight and my hips don’t lie something something something

 

[Proud_papa_pump]

I've already written them off, this is just me trying to understand the process...For the packages that a lot of us still have sitting in Customs, what are they waiting for?

Is it just a matter of volume? Or are they waiting for clarification from the sender, QSC, who can no longer respond. If that's the case, what now?

Don’t think too much on it. It won’t move the packages. Just assume it’s all gone. Tracy and Q might come back in some fashion, but they might not. If you need something now, get a different vendor. There are some good ones still around. If you have a stockpile, use it. If deals pop up, grab what makes sense.

 

[glpfun]

Tracy said I just had 1 more order on my rewards card before I was gonna get her Onlyfans

 

[chmuse]

Tracy said I just had 1 more order on my rewards card before I was gonna get her Onlyfans

Wait, that was an option?

 

[CamCamthePowerMan]

For what? There's no one stop shop any more.

Test tren superdrol is what I tested. I’m looking for more but also a source for Anastrozole and Ozempic. QSC powder anastrozole sucked

 

[glpfun]

Test tren superdrol is what I tested. I’m looking for more but also a source for Anastrozole and Ozempic. QSC powder anastrozole sucked

Most domestic sellers carry all these things. I use PGB for tirz, it’s more expensive than China and less than most domestic. They order from China and pay for their own hplc test and randomly do other ones like sterility. For oils and orals the markup between China and domestic was never that much, like 3x so it’s not really a big deal if it’s for your own personal use. Only resellers really get hurt there.

 

[MissedArmDay66]

Test tren superdrol is what I tested. I’m looking for more but also a source for Anastrozole and Ozempic. QSC powder anastrozole sucked

You might look in to India pharma for the anastrozole. There are at least a couple solid vendors here you can get it from

 

[Trailmixed]

I wonder which ocean Tracy is at the bottom of right now...?

 

[Middus]

Thank you for being more informed than I and providing further context! I was being less than precise, because I was not one of the people involved in the whole ordeal, I've just been watching the fallout. I myself am new to all of this, and sometimes speak with an air of authority I should not. (Should I post the Dunning-Kruger effect again? It's very accurate.)

I'm sure most here would consider me an annoying Karen GLP mom, despite not being a mom (and trying not to be a Karen.) I can do nothing about how annoying I am, alas.

The Jano/ domestic testing discrepancies is another one I'm keeping my eye on. I'm very interested to see if we ever find out why. I'm way too new at this to have an informed guess.

Was just trying to point out how messy this world is. Myself I'm but 16 months into UGL stuff having observed and judged AAS users for years. . Good Thing I kept my opinion to myself and just greeted everyone with a smile and complimented their physiques, just as they complement my transformation now, no questions asked.

 

[chmuse]

Was just trying to point out how messy this world is. Myself I'm but 16 months into UGL stuff having observed and judged AAS users for years. . Good Thing I kept my opinion to myself and just greeted everyone with a smile and complimented their physiques, just as they complement my transformation now, no questions asked.

Yes, learning to keep my mouth shut is something I fail at, unfortunately. People think I know what I'm doing just because I open my trap more often than necessary. That is a mistake. Today I got muted on a discord server because I jumped in on a conversation without reading the previous four hours of context behind it and made myself look like a jerk!

I am a four month old baby, no one should ever listen to me. Well, maybe in another year. Now? No.

 

[CamCamthePowerMan]

Most domestic sellers carry all these things. I use PGB for tirz, it’s more expensive than China and less than most domestic. They order from China and pay for their own hplc test and randomly do other ones like sterility. For oils and orals the markup between China and domestic was never that much, like 3x so it’s not really a big deal if it’s for your own personal use. Only resellers really get hurt there.

I will check out that domestic source I’d prefer china due to pricing but having a domestic source for quick shipping is always nice.

 

[MarkusLA]

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Nice deadlifting, @glpfun

You really know your way around the whole web forum thing for a 90 year old too.

 

[glpfun]

Nice deadlifting, @glpfun

You really know your way around the whole web forum thing for a 90 year old too.

Thanks would you like a candy young man?

 

[chmuse]

Thanks would you like a candy young man?

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Where are my strawberry bon bons?! What kind of 90 year old are you?

 

[IronJohnDoe]

The key to understanding GLPs is this:

GLP-1 is the naturally produced "master hormone" that determines the body's "set weight".

Above that set weight appetite diminishes.

Below that set weight appetite increases.

There are numerous potent psychological and physical mechanisms to encourage or discourage energy intake.

The body wants more energy intake:

Digestion speeds up. Mouth salivates. Sense of smell enhanced. Mind floods with thoughts of food.

The body wants less energy intake:

Digestion slows. Foods seems unappetizing. Acid reflux. Throat closed, The thought of eating can be enough to induce physical illness,

This system can be dysfunctional just like a hypogonadal man has insufficient testosterone, a diabetic insufficient (and/or insensitivity to) insulin, a person with hypothyroidism produces too little T4 or T3.

Supplementing with external hormones brings things back to proper working order. We don't tell those people to "willpower" their way to higher Test, or count every gram of food and eat 16 times a day to "manually" manage blood glucose.

GLP-1 production. can be insufficient, for whatever reason, or insufficient sensitivity exists, and coupled with unlimited access to food, bam, too much energy intake and excess weight.

It's should be obvious that when the levels of that HORMONE are increased by exogenous supplementation, and people restore normal weight, biology is playing a major part in this.

We see BBs struggling to eat enough all the time. they take an appetite stimulator and suddenly the impossible becomes possible. No one says "willpower through it" when they're on the verge of vomiting.

To believe otherwise means the skinny, illiterate loser pumping gas is the epitome of "willpower" and not just predisposed to being thin.

Yes, personal choices come into play. Funny thing about that though. Once the incessant food noise is gone, and people don't have to spend every waking moment resisting a body screaming "I'm starving!", they very often DO make much better choices. We see that in the data of the foods being consumed, and ever increasing interest in other areas of health.

Look at all the guys who've wandered in here for TRT after finally seeing progress to a healthier body with a GLP drug.

Enough with the "GLPs are for weak people" idiocy. We know better now, get over it already.

So for the ones that are pushing food through their mouth to the point of being sick of it (and I am a foodie that likes eating large portions but after a while on bulk I just would like to fast for a week as it gets you tired even thinking about food, literally stomach clinches at the thought)


How do you rate GHRP-2 ?

Not talking just effectiveness but also safety wise

 

[malleolus]

I’m just saying I have had much better oils from other places. But when you factor in price it’s hard to beat QSC. Nice oils are nice. But often times I don’t want to pay 8 x markup. Sometimes I will though. Sometimes it’s worth it.

Just for interest. How do you assess Oils for yourself that you can rate it as much better?