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I'm so chill on ashwaganda that I'm unconscious. Seriously I dunno how anyone can stay awake on that. I've only tried one brand and it's nutricost ksm-66. Just one pill knocks me out and makes me lazy and non-functional for hours. It's worse than GH or Benadryl for me. Like CBD/weed without the high
I stay conscious on Ashwagandha… days 1-5 I get such amazing and instant stress relief from it. If I was smart this is the point at which I would quit.

Days 6-20 I unknowingly start not brushing my teeth, not tying my shoelaces, careless mistakes at work, showing up to meetings late, forgetting things like my wallet and keys

Day 21 finally realize ashwagandha is making me completely anhedonic after I talk to a friend about “hey man I’ve been feeling like, super chill lately way too chill”… then I quit cold turkey and I return to normal in like 10 days or so.

The anhedonia is so weird. Like I’ll be heading out the door jacket and boots on. I realize I forgot my wallet. But I simply don’t care. I just leave home anyways. I have a meeting at 11:00. It’s 10:58. I’m doing some unimportant totally not work related task. Simply don’t care, finally remember about the meeting 10 mins later or just don’t show up.

I am cognitively normal in this state, can still think through problems logically, but the consequences of my actions just mean nothing.

Never tried ashwagandha again since I started taking steroids but I have heard that nandrolone apathy feels similar to this.
 
Like I said, People love looking for things that don't exist.
People love looking for comprehensive studies that they can draw conclusions from, and thereby give recommendations? I mean, I'd hope so.
Bruh Keep waiting then. Some of us will run with what some serious people have put together.
To each their own, I'm just giving my .02. It's disingenuous, however, to make absolute statements on drugs, in which you don't have any data to support.
Triumph 5 is still recruiting tough, so you have 2-3 more years of pontificating on here for those interested . Sadly that won't be enough for your triple peptide study.
You don't need direct comparison DBPC studies to have an educated opinion on a drug, though it'd of course be ideal. A well done trial, such as the Eli Lilly one, will allow for comparative analysis. Tirzepatide and Semaglutide have already been extensively studied in DBPC trials. Your repulse of the idea that we should wait for high quality evidence before characterizing drugs is confusing.
 
GH15 taught us everything we ever needed to know about tren 10+ years ago. Low-moderate test. 700 tren, 400ish masteron. 50-100 abombs. 6+iu growth. No need to reinvent the wheel here guys. And ace is the only ester.
 
People love looking for comprehensive studies that they can draw conclusions from, and thereby give recommendations? I mean, I'd hope so.

To each their own, I'm just giving my .02. It's disingenuous, however, to make absolute statements on drugs, in which you don't have any data to support.

You don't need direct comparison DBPC studies to have an educated opinion on a drug, though it'd of course be ideal. A well done trial, such as the Eli Lilly one, will allow for comparative analysis. Tirzepatide and Semaglutide have already been extensively studied in DBPC trials. Your repulse of the idea that we should wait for high quality evidence before characterizing drugs is confusing.
Great. You have proven to us that you are smart. Now demand for Human studies on BPC so we can show all these Bullshitters here that keep telling us BPC did this and that for them when the studies don't exist and there is no regard for safety concerning their anecdotes.

You know what is really disingenuous? starting a discourse and slotting in a message of 'Harm reduction' based on someone saying Reta was goat. Really? that is the harm reduction or safety hill you want to die upon? That One GLP-1 pep is marginally better than others?

Again, please wait for your triple blind, half cripple studies.
 
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Great. You have proven to us that you are smart. Now demand for Human studies on BPC so we can show all these Bullshitters here that keep telling us BPC did this and that for them when the studies don't exist and there is no regard for safety concerning their anecdotes.

You know what is really disingenuous? starting a discourse and slotting in a message of 'Harm reduction' based on someone saying Reta was goat. Really? that is the harm reduction or safety hill you want to die upon? That One GLP-1 pep is marginally better than others?

Again, please wait for your triple blind, half cripple studies.
Yeah I'm not a fan of dude either...
 
Great. You have proven to us that you are smart. Now demand for Human studies on BPC who se can show all this Bullshitters here that keep telling us BPC did this and that for them when the studies don't exist.
BPC likely is bullshit. I would question why big pharma' hasn't touched it with a 10-foot pole. I don't join people's conversations and be a little shit. It appears to be innocuous, hence my indifference.
You know what is really disingenuous? starting a discourse and slotting in a message of 'Harm reduction' based on someone saying Reta was goat. Really? that is the harm reduction or safety hill you want to die upon? That One GLP-1 pep is marginally better than others?
I responded to another person saying more nuance is required, you joined and said it's the "goat" depending on the field, and I responded that I'm talking about benifits that transcend weight loss. Then, you made the claim that "Switch to Fatty Liver and Reta beats the others..". I asked if that claim was based off anecdote or evidence, and was genuinely curious if I was wrong and there was studies regarding such. You then linked a study that discussed HbA1c -- not NAFLD, and implied that Retatrutide was better at HbA1c reduction. I then pointed out that that was incorrect, based on the limited data your article provided.

Just for in case you forgot. Now please explain at what point I said or implied that your statement was unsafe. It's simply illogical and unsupported. It's also bad principle for the forum as a whole, in my opinion.
Again, please wait for your triple blind, half cripple studies.
Sure thing.

Your other claim of "For stuff like type 2 diabetes, Sema remains slightly ahead" is also unfounded. I'll let chatGPT explain.
 

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BPC likely is bullshit. I would question why big pharma' hasn't touched it with a 10-foot pole. I don't join people's conversations and be a little shit. It appears to be innocuous, hence my indifference.

I responded to another person saying more nuance is required, you joined and said it's the "goat" depending on the field, and I responded that I'm talking about benifits that transcend weight loss. Then, you made the claim that "Switch to Fatty Liver and Reta beats the others..". I asked if that claim was based off anecdote or evidence, and was genuinely curious if I was wrong and there was studies regarding such. You then linked a study that discussed HbA1c -- not NAFLD, and implied that Retatrutide was better at HbA1c reduction. I then pointed out that that was incorrect, based on the limited data your article provided.

Just for in case you forgot. Now please explain at what point I said or implied that your statement was unsafe. It's simply illogical and unsupported. It's also bad principle for the forum as a whole, in my opinion.

Sure thing.

Your other claim of "For stuff like type 2 diabetes, Sema remains slightly ahead" is also unfounded. I'll let chatGPT explain.
I explained that my sema comment was from a price point.. but you want to prove to people you are smart.
I think they get that. We all get that you are smart.
Do you want a button or a cookie?
Man's on a UGL forum blabbing about needing double blind studies of things that are still in clinical trials..
Then tries to slot in chat GPT
Like dude you literally made this an argument. In case you don't know, I'm not arguing with you. I'm saying you do you. We will run with reasonable anecdotes.
your rejoinder makes it appear as if i posted that article in regard to NASH. Funny enough i suspected you would dismiss it that was why i said i wouldn't bother with the other article. You will find some other flaw too. Hence my comment about "looking for things...
I saw you coming from 3 miles away.
"Some folks put up a paper that seems reasonable. I'm running with that vs someone that is arguing about GOATED Peptides. :D :D :D :D.
Have a good life bro.
 
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@Middus Tell me what you want me to do with this guy, boss. I'm standing by.
Hey he's for harm reduction. Let us not make harmful statements about how goated some peptides are. Infact we should not say anything till studies come out definitively agreeing with our anecdotes.
At least the several sigma IQ dude was more direct in stating and foisting his intellectual prowess upon us.
 
I explained that my sema comment was from a price point.. but you want to prove to people you are smart.
I think they get that. We all get that you are smart.
Do you want a button or a cookie?
You responded to a different person, after you made the claim, and just said that's it's biggest advantage. Didn't know I was meant to deduce that you were referring to our conversation, my fault. Don't really get the point of the second part; I'm a 19 y/o that didn't graduate highschool. I don't understand the inferiority complex.
Man's on a UGL forum blabbing about needing double blind studies of things that are still in clinical trials..
If you didn't want a discussion you could've just said so, or, you know, not respond.
Then tries to slot in chat GPT
Not quite sure I get your point.
Like dude you literally made this an argument.
More so discourse than argument; you are the one that started making sly, sarcastic comments.
In case you don't know, I'm not arguing with you. I'm saying you do you. We will run with reasonable anecdotes. Some folks put up a paper that seems reasonable.
That's fair. That's also why I asked you if your opinion was based off anecdote in the very beginning.
I'm running with that vs someone that is arguing about GOATED Peptides. :D :D :D :D.
Have a good life bro.
Okay, you too.
 
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