Cat Café EU & US domestic

[Mediawelt]

Yes and for now we have not one customer reporting anything

This is Right.

 

[Fenro]

I also believe that this is the case. as an ordinary user up to 3 years in prison? That sounds very strange even for Germany.
as @Sampei says no communication from any meso member that is affected? always the same text from these steroid lawyers.
I can't believe this.

Well 3 years is the upper limit. It's not bullshit. It's right there in the law.

AntiDopG - Gesetz gegen Doping im Sport

(1) Mit Freiheitsstrafe bis zu drei Jahren oder mit Geldstrafe wird bestraft, wer:
...
entgegen § 3 Absatz 1 Satz 1 ein Dopingmittel oder eine Dopingmethode bei sich anwendet oder anwenden lässt

translated:

(1) A custodial sentence not exceeding three years or a monetary penalty shall be imposed on any person who:

uses a doping agent or a doping method or has a doping agent or doping method used on him/her contrary to § 3 paragraph 1 sentence 1

Germany is pretty harsh on steroids. It's a law to prevent doping in sports. But it's applied to everyone just because they can.
That being said, I don't think you are going to prison if you ordered a normal amount and had no issues with the law before that.

 

[M. Tugboat]

The fuck kinda country puts people in jail for using steroids?

Those jails must be crowded as hell if they throw people in there for a simple possession.

What happens if you're found using hard drugs? 25 to life?

 

[29trt]

Actually I think that is a europen union thing....in my native country you also get jail for AAS

 

[TyLu17]

Well 3 years is the upper limit. It's not bullshit. It's right there in the law.

AntiDopG - Gesetz gegen Doping im Sport

translated:

Germany is pretty harsh on steroids. It's a law to prevent doping in sports. But it's applied to everyone just because they can.
That being said, I don't think you are going to prison if you ordered a normal amount and had no issues with the law before that.

However, this legal text refers to professional athletes and the distribution or production of steroids and their circulation.
But not the amateur athlete like many of us here.
In the hobby sector, an AAS user does not get a 3-year prison sentence.

Here the law makes a difference

can be read under (7).... of your link…

 

[Nidus]

The fuck kinda country puts people in jail for using steroids?

Those jails must be crowded as hell if they throw people in there for a simple possession.

What happens if you're found using hard drugs? 25 to life?

And the letters they send are very harsh, albeit its legal language it sounds serious as fuck from the get go. In my case, i just got a letter this morning too, stating all the details, what, where, when and how.

 

[TyLu17]

And the letters they send are very harsh, albeit its legal language it sounds serious as fuck from the get go. In my case, i just got a letter this morning too, stating all the details, what, where, when and how.

I'm curious, is the letter aimed at you as a user criminally, or do they want evidence so they can lock CatCafe away long enough?

 

[Nidus]

I'm curious, is the letter aimed at you as a user criminally, or do they want evidence so they can lock CatCafe away long enough?

Aimed at me, stating all details and it was a long time before the actual bust +3 months.

 

[Celt12345]

Aimed at me, stating all details and it was a long time before the actual bust +3 months.

Sorry if u've already stated it in the thread but are u resident in the same country as Liska?

 

[GrayFox]

Aimed at me, stating all details and it was a long time before the actual bust +3 months.

Police asking to come by for a statement or was it directly a letter from Staatsanwaltschaft?
You gonna take a lawyer?
Still better than a search warrant I guess... but sad to hear the opsec apparently wasn't that good.

 

[Nidus]

Police asking to come by for a statement or was it directly a letter from Staatsanwaltschaft?
You gonna take a lawyer?
Still better than a search warrant I guess... but sad to hear the opsec apparently wasn't that good.

Staatsanwaltschaft. Yes, before reading the letter to its end i already called up my lawyer.

 

[GrayFox]

Surprised there are no discussions in the German forums yet.
Let's hope some states got too much on their table to care about it. But Bavaria for sure will.

 

[Nidus]

Surprised there are no discussions in the German forums yet.
Let's hope some states got too much on their table to care about it. But Bavaria for sure will.

They will pop up there sooner or later, according to a TG Group from another source called Akra 2 people have been raided last week where police directly affiliated those with a purchase from Cat 2-3 years ago.

And just because you get a letter, it gives you no security yet, a police raid can still happen anytime despite a letter from the court directly.

Can only recommend everyone to clean things up, keep nothing at home!

 

[knucklesamich]

Damn, I wish Cat Cafe was still in business, it seemed proper. I have pics of my cats and everything!

 

[bigboy420]

purchase from Cat 2-3 years ago.

Which can be all seen on blockchain.

Make monero standard or its your own damn fault. Deserved
Meso rx is a joke treating drugs like they aint illegal.

No hate, just facts. ( I prepare for dislikes, shoot boys)

 

[readalot]

No hate, just facts. ( I prepare for dislikes, shoot boys)

Why would there be any dislikes? All BTC should be obtained using non kyc methods and XMR should be standard currency. Period.

People buying controlled substances with BTC using cashapp/coinbase. Maybe folks will wake up.

 

[Nidus]

Which can be all seen on blockchain.

Make monero standard or its your own damn fault. Deserved
Meso rx is a joke treating drugs like they aint illegal.

No hate, just facts. ( I prepare for dislikes, shoot boys)

I always use Monero, nothing else and no KYC either.
They did monitor the packages going in and out before, so they had time to build up their own database and obviously there must have been some customer data from the seller side saved otherwise they couldn't connect it so easily to so many people.

 

[readalot]

I always use Monero, nothing else and no KYC either.

What do people think happens when you buy kyc BTC then swap for XMR?

No red flag there at all, lol.

Well done.

 

[Nidus]

What do people think happens when you buy kyc BTC then swap for XMR?

No red flag there at all, lol.

Well done.

No KYC for the BTC either, there are many ways to go around, swapping things and whatnot. There is a ton of Information here on Meso with so many ways

 

[bigboy420]

Why would there be any dislikes?

CaN i PaY wItH bAnk tRaNsFeR oR pAyPaL grandpa"s.
Theres alot of them. Thats the problem. Sources would lose money and people would go the shitty sources accepting thoes payments. Double edge sword. Only becouse of stupid buyers.