Test C with Castor- notice half life extension ?

[y777]

Hi all

Has anyone experimented with test cyp brewed in castor oil ?

Did you notice a significant increase in half life such that a once a week pin would suffice ?

Alternative question is folks who’ve used bayer Testaviron, test e brewed in castor , do you *notice* longer half life than brews in less viscous oils

Thank you.

 

[SunWukong]

Hi all

Has anyone experimented with test cyp brewed in castor oil ?

Did you notice a significant increase in half life such that a once a week pin would suffice ?

Alternative question is folks who’ve used bayer Testaviron, test e brewed in castor , do you *notice* longer half life than brews in less viscous oils

Thank you.

Why not just use Undecanoate?

 

[bighunanballs]

You're not gonna be able to notice shit by feels. You'll need serial blood work daily to assess

 

[lukiss96]

One problem with such experiments is a lack of information on it's half life. So, of course blood work is needed to confirm any protocol, but the problem is it's unknown how long it takes to load such an interesting stuff. Perhaps it will still not come near undecanoate ester in terms of release and half life, but there we at least know how to properly load it and use it for stable T levels. I would choose either Test C or Test U, depending on my injection preference, for one time per week TU, if I have no problems and can go twice then TC.

 

[SnowyMiami]

Hi all

Has anyone experimented with test cyp brewed in castor oil ?

Did you notice a significant increase in half life such that a once a week pin would suffice ?

Alternative question is folks who’ve used bayer Testaviron, test e brewed in castor , do you *notice* longer half life than brews in less viscous oils

Thank you.

I am not sure if it has been studied but I would also like to know. Everyone shooting UGL test says MCT is fine and the ester is all that matters. However, it begs the question why is all pharma enanthate/cypionate in high viscosity oil? The idea that pharma companies don't have access to MCT is absurd.

I would guess that pharma is using longer ester/higher viscosity to optimize for once weekly dosing. You break open a standard 250mg/1ml amp of test enanthate, go deep IM gluteal and you are good for the week.

 

[mikeh1998]

The idea that pharma companies don't have access to MCT is absurd.

I think that they just don't care. Testosterone is a generic drug, nobody wants to spend time running a study on new formulations. Why fix what's not broken?

It's not like if Pfizer releases a new testosterone cypionate made with USP MCT carrier oil people are going to start en masse calling their TRT clinic demanding to get the new Pfizer one and willing to pay extra for it.

The only people who care are steroid users and they are just going to use UGL. The average person on TRT probably doesn't even know what a "carrier oil" or "ester" even is.

 

[Exhortae]

Was on trt using bayer test enanthate every 3.5 days (castor oil)

I had bad fluctuations (insomnia the day of pinning) just like any ugl with other carrier oils.

Only feels report though

Switched for test u since then.

Pharma in france has to make new studies if they want to change the carrier oil. 1 amp is sold 3.3 euros if i remember correctly, no point in investing for new carrier oil

 

[SnowyMiami]

Was on trt using bayer test enanthate every 3.5 days (castor oil)

I had bad fluctuations (insomnia the day of pinning) just like any ugl with other carrier oils.

Only feels report though

Switched for test u since then.

Pharma in france has to make new studies if they want to change the carrier oil. 1 amp is sold 3.3 euros if i remember correctly, no point in investing for new carrier oil

Please find me dosing instructions from Bayer that instructs 3.5 day administration. You did it wrong and you felt like crap.

I think that they just don't care. Testosterone is a generic drug, nobody wants to spend time running a study on new formulations. Why fix what's not broken?

It's not like if Pfizer releases a new testosterone cypionate made with USP MCT carrier oil people are going to start en masse calling their TRT clinic demanding to get the new Pfizer one and willing to pay extra for it.

The only people who care are steroid users and they are just going to use UGL. The average person on TRT probably doesn't even know what a "carrier oil" or "ester" even is.

The average person on TRT is better off because they aren't second guessing the pharmaceutical companies based on what they heard from Vigorous Steve.

 

[malomkarom]

Hi all

Has anyone experimented with test cyp brewed in castor oil ?

Did you notice a significant increase in half life such that a once a week pin would suffice ?

Alternative question is folks who’ve used bayer Testaviron, test e brewed in castor , do you *notice* longer half life than brews in less viscous oils

Thank you.

For E oc C there's a substential change from MCT C8 to a C8/C10 mix to GSO even, though that is very technical terminology, we're talking 3 days to 3.5 or 4. Castor would get it closer to 5-6 days like it should be on paper. To some people that is just enough to get their e2 down from gyno city to barely no gyno.

It that a big change? Yes.
Is it really something that lets you get away with once a week? Yes, for SOME.

If you're sensitive to highs and lows troughout the week, it won't make a difference, your test is still more than halved by injection day, on trt that can be pretty shitty.

Just test it for yourself. Castor oil is great anyways.

 

[narta]

I am not sure if it has been studied but I would also like to know. Everyone shooting UGL test says MCT is fine and the ester is all that matters. However, it begs the question why is all pharma enanthate/cypionate in high viscosity oil? The idea that pharma companies don't have access to MCT is absurd.

I would guess that pharma is using longer ester/higher viscosity to optimize for once weekly dosing. You break open a standard 250mg/1ml amp of test enanthate, go deep IM gluteal and you are good for the week.

Castor is one of the least irritant carrier oils along with CSO

 

[Eddie.]

Castor is one of the least irritant carrier oils along with CSO

Exactly. On the other hand arachis oil is one of the most irritant carrier oils and i believe it is still being used in sustanon, i don't understand why they don't swap it.

Pharma in france has to make new studies if they want to change the carrier oil. 1 amp is sold 3.3 euros if i remember correctly, no point in investing for new carrier oil

Lucky you. Pharma in Greece was 6,25 per amp (test E in castor) and last summer it went up to 17,67. This is the end of pharma (for me at least).

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

I used and made test U in castor at around 380 mg/ml. My blood work never diviates every 2 week injection and I stay right at 1400 ng/DL

 

[y777]

I used and made test U in castor at around 380 mg/ml. My blood work never diviates every 2 week injection and I stay right at 1400 ng/DL

How much do you pin for that 1400 blood level ? Thx

 

[y777]

Why not just use Undecanoate?

Thank you. I already use test u for cruise /trt but I’ve been using cyp for blasting. I brew it in sesame oil but am wondering if castor will significantly extend the half life. Thanks