Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[Dirthand]

hahah chatgpt got sentimental

Thank you for this reaction... you even made my day even better for taking me with a grain of salt.. thank you!! I really do hope you have a great day!!!

 

[ajsalida]

Just received an order of test cyp from the November pre-sale. It's clear liquid though. All vials are crashed of course due to temp but was the carrier oil changed or something? Every other batch was yellowish.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I dunno man. Isn’t the whole point of this thread to share our experiences with QSC as openly and honestly as we can? The good and the bad.

Share them? Yes. But if your source experience sounds like breaking up with a girl or learning Santa Klaus isn’t real, then we are going to be entertained. Haha

 

[BamaCrazy]

Just received an order of test cyp from the November pre-sale. It's clear liquid though. All vials are crashed of course due to temp but was the carrier oil changed or something? Every other batch was yellowish.

Your last Test C was yellow? Hmmm

I’ve got test c from Stan, GA, QSC and 2-3 other vendors and it’s all clear as it should be.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

Just received an order of test cyp from the November pre-sale. It's clear liquid though. All vials are crashed of course due to temp but was the carrier oil changed or something? Every other batch was yellowish.

The vials are super duper freshly brewed and therefore less oxidized. And the oxidation is what turns some of the steroids (like Test E and C) yellowish. I think.

 

[ajsalida]

Your last Test C was yellow? Hmmm

I’ve got test c from Stan, GA, QSC and 2-3 other vendors and it’s all clear as it should be.

Yeah all my prior kits from OSC were yellowish color oil.

 

[BamaCrazy]

The vials are super duper freshly brewed and therefore less oxidized. And the oxidation is what turns some of the steroids (like Test E and C) yellowish. I think.

Good to know. I’ve never come across that.

 

[ajsalida]

The vials are super duper freshly brewed and therefore less oxidized. And the oxidation is what turns some of the steroids (like Test E and C) yellowish. I think.

OK I guess. My prior batches of test E and NPP were yellow too, and primo very light yellow.

 

[ajsalida]

Good to know. I’ve never come across that.

Yeah I've never seen that either maybe Tracy can chime in.

 

[mok4315]

I regret having to publicly criticize QSC, but I'm starting to feel deceived by their actions.

I ordered during the Black Friday promotion and paid promptly. However, communication issues arose as Tracy (WhatsApp) and Tracy (email) appeared to be different people. I had originally ordered through Tracy (email) but requested bank details from Tracy (WhatsApp).

There was complete silence from November 30th to December 14th. Between December 16-18th, I was informed that tracking would be available soon. I thanked them and inquired about the tracking on December 25th. On December 26th, I received a message stating that QSC was having issues with their bank account and I should check if my money had been returned, which it hadn't.

For 32 days, I've essentially been strung along, only to find out that my eagerly anticipated order won't be shipped. I'm now told to expect a refund in 2-4 weeks.

This experience has been frustrating and disappointing, especially given QSC's reputation in the industry. The lack of clear communication, extended periods of silence, and the eventual cancellation of the order without proper explanation have left me feeling misled and undervalued as a customer. I expected better from a company of QSC's caliber and hope they will address these issues to prevent similar situations in the future.

Where to start?

Provided this isn’t a troll post, your first mistake was opening several different lines of communication. You’ve been effectively having a single conversation broken up between two different people who are probably not communicating with each other and who use a translator app to understand what you’re saying. Neither of these people are Tracy. If you want clear communication, stick to one rep. And given these are not native English speakers, if you REALLY want clear communication, stick to the script. Or learn Chinese.

The second mistake is the mindset. QSC doesn’t value you as a customer. They don’t value any of us. And not even just because they’re a UGL. I would go so far as to say that most companies, unless they’re just starting up, don’t really value customers. It just so happens that foreign ugls aren’t that politically correct about telling you so.

My advice to you is to see if you can get a credit instead of a refund and place your order again, and stick with either email or WhatsApp. It would probably behoove you to learn how to pay with crypto as well. It’s pretty easy once you figure it out, and there’s some pretty good guides and videos online. You can dm me and I’ll help you out.

Finally, you should email Tracy directly for customer service issues: tracy@sigmachemical.com.cn

 

[The-Squat]

The vials are super duper freshly brewed and therefore less oxidized. And the oxidation is what turns some of the steroids (like Test E and C) yellowish. I think.

No, oil, heat and solvents do.

Tren A is what turns dark with bad purity that is oxidized, the hotter it gets the darker as well.

Oxidation don't happen after a brewed batch, it's in the raws or someone got the vial so hot it had steam in it that you can't see unless the top is taken off.

Steam is moisture, moisture causes oxidation.

The reason tren a use to be crap purity until testing come popular, is it was left with too much moisture as water is used as a finally process. The water wasn't dried enough.

Year back source brewed in water on stove tops, that caused issues as well.

 

[Liter O' Test]

I regret having to publicly criticize QSC

This experience has been frustrating and disappointing, especially given QSC's reputation in the industry. The lack of clear communication, extended periods of silence, and the eventual cancellation of the order without proper explanation have left me feeling misled and undervalued as a customer. I expected better from a company of QSC's caliber and hope they will address these issues to prevent similar situations in the future.

So the whole reason this guy is so off base is because we have people like you running defense and doing customer support for this source like they are special. Youre literally handling customer issues and providing an email like theyve deserved this special treatment. holy fuck.
you think you are helping but you prop this source up

they could easily have more people managing emails for quicker response times, hire better english speakers, have a better system in place for ordering that prevents this from happening in the first place, have a rep in this thread handling concerns (a visible one) but instead, they dont have to, they have you clueless people to soften up or victim blame every complaint and act like its all fine

let the source stand on their own two fucking feet.

My turn to help a newb out I guess.

Where to start?

Provided this isn’t a troll post, your first mistake

If you want clear communication, stick to one rep. And given these are not native English speakers, if you REALLY want clear communication, stick to the script. Or learn Chinese.

I would go so far as to say that most companies, unless they’re just starting up, don’t really value customers.

My advice to you is to see if you can get a credit instead of a refund and place your order again, and stick with either email or WhatsApp. It would probably behoove you to learn how to pay with crypto as well. It’s pretty easy once you figure it out, and there’s some pretty good guides and videos online. You can dm me and I’ll help you out.

Finally, you should email Tracy directly for customer service issues: tracy@sigmachemical.com.cn

 

[iris]

Or: Admin/Cs rep

 

[Sicsemptyran]

So the whole reason this guy is so off base is because we have people like you running defense and doing customer support for this source like they are special. Youre literally handling customer issues and providing an email. holy fuck.
you think you are helping but you prop this source up

they could easily have more people managing emails for quicker response times, hire better english speakers, have a better system in place for ordering that prevents this from happening in the first place, have a rep in this thread handling concerns (a visible one) but instead, they dont have to, they have you clueless people to soften up or victim blame every complaint and act like its all fine

let the source stand on their own two fucking feet.

More of just a general note. I think StubHub is a shitty company, but if someone told me they emailed and then hit up the chat bot at the same time expecting the same person on the other end, I'd tell them that wasn't smart to do. Don't think I'm shilling for StubHub or its shitty Filippino support staff by doing that, lol.

 

[Trailmixed]

So long as there is a high demand and desire for QSC's products and prices, they could give less of a shit what the customers think lmao

 

[Clover 0080]

Not a phenomenon observed in 10,000+ participants in the pharma trials, including the multi year extended phases. No loss of efficacy with continuous exposure.

However, "it stopped working" is a common theme among non-pharma users.

It's important to understand that immunogenicity isn't usually binary, ie, it happens or it doesn't. It's often there but just kept in check. With x dose, diluted to x ratio, at x frequency, without interruption, it doesn't rise to a level where it compromised efficacy.

So you take one dose, the immunogenic reaction peaks at, using an arbitrary scale of 1-10, 5. A week later it's dropped to 3. You take another dose (another "exposure event") it peaks at 5, drops to 3 by the next weekly dose, and back up to 5 and so on, remaining at a stable level.

Now you take a "drug holiday", an extended break from use, immunogenicity drops to 0, but in the absence of exposure to the peptide your immune system builds up a nice supply of "memory T-cells", a "rapid response team" for future "invasions".

You take another dose after long break. immunogenicity response jumps to 8 and the drug is much more rapidly cleared from your system. A week later it's down to 5, and with the next dose it's back to 8, rapidly neutralizing the peptide, so the only way to get the same effect as previously is to increase the dose.

And there are other factors. We know from the trials there isn't a problem with 1 "exposure event" per week, but microdose and now you've got 7 exposure events, giving your immune system daily practice on ridding itself of this "infection". And ironically, small doses are often worse in terms of creating immune responses than larger ones.

So that's why screwing around with what's proven effective long term is so risky. In some individuals, this unwanted "enhanced immune response" can last for years. or even a lifetime.

So hypothetically if someone wanted to take a "little break" for whatever reason say they were at goal weight or they were pinning something else and didn't want the interaction...it takes about 30 days to completely clear any tirzepetide/semaglutide from your system. After this point is when the body starts to make "memory T cells" right? It would be more beneficial to stay on a low maintenance dose just to make sure its never cleared from your body (if you have intentions of ever getting back on a glp1)
As long as someone keeps a low dose in their body stretched no longer then 30 days between injections that will help prevent this future reaction. I'm sure tons of people stop GLP-1s all together thinking they will never need them again and then oopsy gained all that weight back and now its going to be a lot more difficult to lose it.
That is considering they can afford the long-term low maintenance dose especially if they are paying out of pocket for pharma grade.

 

[MyNameIsJeff]

No, oil, heat and solvents do.

Tren A is what turns dark with bad purity that is oxidized, the hotter it gets the darker as well.

Oxidation don't happen after a brewed batch, it's in the raws or someone got the vial so hot it had steam in it that you can't see unless the top is taken off.

Steam is moisture, moisture causes oxidation.

The reason tren a use to be crap purity until testing come popular, is it was left with too much moisture as water is used as a finally process. The water wasn't dried enough.

Year back source brewed in water on stove tops, that caused issues as well.

Hopefully one of our resident brewers can chime in on this.

 

[eggrollfever]

Maybe my experience has been an anomaly, but I’ve had zero communication issues with QSC over several years of orders. I don’t know the reps’ names and I honestly can’t fathom what could happen that would result in me learning them. This is the entire thread for a single order:

Me: Hi, international.

3x Product 1
2x Product 2

Name
Address

USDC

QSC: payment address

Me: hash

5-7 days later Me: is tracking available?

QSC: tracking number


That’s all it takes, no more, no less. If the tracking updates stop I’ll wait 30 days and request reshipment, maybe place a domestic order in the meantime if I’m running low.

 

[salladen]

Maybe my experience has been an anomaly, but I’ve had zero communication issues with QSC over several years of orders. I don’t know the reps’ names and I honestly can’t fathom what could happen that would result in me learning them. This is the entire thread for a single order:

Me: Hi, international.

3x Product 1
2x Product 2

Name
Address

USDC

QSC: payment address

Me: hash

5-7 days later Me: is tracking available?

QSC: tracking number


That’s all it takes, no more, no less. If the tracking updates stop I’ll wait 30 days and request reshipment, maybe place a domestic order in the meantime if I’m running low.

After you have recived your tracking number, how long does it take for them to start shipping? I got tracking 2 weeks ago, still "Your package is waiting to be picked up by the carrier."

 

[gixxiepoo]

I've ordered with QSC many times over the years with no issue until now.

So I placed an order for 500g of testE raws during last month's promo. I was sent 20 vials of oils. Thru emails I learn these are testE vials, and now they want me to pay to send these to some random person before they ship my raws? Wtf.

I've now been told that the rep that messed up my order is no longer employed. Emails leading up til now from QSC have lacked explanation on the situation, but I will be trying to sort this out. The address given was not a customer.