Who do you use for anonymous shipping?

[bighunanballs]

Every pack sent from USPS counter is time stamped to sync with counter video, fyi.

It's mentioned in court documents. They can go back years if necessary.

Basically, if you're committing some crime by mailing things, and they take an interest, they can get you.


View: https://youtu.be/wocJoig5xpU

COVID changed the way ppl I knew shipped massive quantities of weed into prohibited states lol. Facemasks changed the anon USPS counter shipping game. No one down south wears masks anymore unless they are retards but all of the Yankees up in communismville still wear masks everywhere so it's easy to ship without getting on camera in the podunk New England towns

 

[laclark89]

This is what I do:
Wear costume
Put on gloves
Buy stamps and packaging materials off an old lady at a retirement home
Drive across multiple states on Route 66
Handoff the package to a fellow biker gang member
He then puts on costume and gloves
And goes to a very large company several states away to use their bathroom and after dropping a Waffle House

 

[Type-IIx]

Gotcha. Priority Postage paid by crypto probably uses same “company” to acquire labels that are with high probability shipping other illicit goods, makes sense. As in other customers of crypto postage are sending illicit goods and it’s easy to profile via postage once understood how the postage is being acquired.

Not sure if stamps and priority postage same thing but I think still applies regardless? Not sure.

Even using different return address for each different box you’re dropping to in different zip codes? Understood though they don’t lack the resources to figure it out once you catch heat.

Oh god yeah receiving is a different beast I’m sure. I’d much rather be on the shipping end than receiving end.

I have heard of this. Basically I guess it comes down to how motivated they are to catch someone and if the sender / seller knows when to drop back and let the heat cool off, rebrand, move, and start again.

Feels like this is the biggest vulnerability. So many cameras that if they’re determined they’ll trace you the drop off person back to wherever they need to.

Thanks for the more in depth insight. Very interesting. I always like reading about the dark web busts and see how the vendors screwed up; it’s usually something crazy simple that was overlooked early on. Contrast this with very long time vendors that have been going since the OG Silk Road. Quite fascinating.

The way that POSTAL investigator (btw!) busted DPR is pretty legendary. For those that aren't aware, he was the first darknet market mogul of the Silk Road. He had seeded interest (have to connect to the clearnet at SOME point, so people know you exist) on some bitcoin mining and tech boards using his real ID before the Silk Road took off. All they had to do was search back to the first mention of the Silk Road and get a warrant for the hosting provider of the bitcointalk board.

I would be so wary of using those services that provide stamps for crypto. I believe that if they're not a honeypot [owned and operated by the government], they're easily commandeered.

And yeah, using different return addresses will fuck you. They scan all mail at every point in transit after pickup, right. So you're basically geolocated to a couple mile radius. If volume picks up, they'll start being attentive to the box(es) you use. If you use real return addresses you're not in control of, either one is going to get returned to sender, or an investigator will just pull up a satellite map and circle the radius, geolocate you, and use "old fashioned police work" to get you. Probably take a few weeks/months, but they'll get you if they want you.

 

[Type-IIx]

The news media is replete with instances of government-owned and -operated honeypot businesses. Without referencing individual cases or companies 'cause I don't remember, they've done it with mobile phones, fake IDs, murder-for-hire, etc. You're actually really low-hanging fruit for these agencies if you operate online or through Tor and "connect to the meatspace."

 

[Trenbolonetax]

The way that POSTAL investigator (btw!) busted DPR is pretty legendary. For those that aren't aware, he was the first darknet market mogul of the Silk Road. He had seeded interest (have to connect to the clearnet at SOME point, so people know you exist) on some bitcoin mining and tech boards using his real ID before the Silk Road took off. All they had to do was search back to the first mention of the Silk Road and get a warrant for the hosting provider of the bitcointalk board.

I would be so wary of using those services that provide stamps for crypto. I believe that if they're not a honeypot [owned and operated by the government], they're easily commandeered.

And yeah, using different return addresses will fuck you. They scan all mail at every point in transit after pickup, right. So you're basically geolocated to a couple mile radius. If volume picks up, they'll start being attentive to the box(es) you use. in control of, either one is going to get returned to sender, or an investigator will just pull up a satellite map and circle the radius, geolocate you, and use "old fashioned police work" to get you. Probably take a few weeks/months, but they'll get you if they want you.

The news media is replete with instances of government-owned and -operated honeypot businesses. Without referencing individual cases or companies 'cause I don't remember, they've done it with mobile phones, fake IDs, murder-for-hire, etc. You're actually really low-hanging fruit for these agencies if you operate online or through Tor and "connect to the meatspace."

Rats! I better put my plans of building a multinational Trenbolone empire on hold then.

Nah but seriously it’s very interesting insight. I hope one day it’s revealed how some vendors can make it a decade plus, while others don’t make it a couple years.

 

[Type-IIx]

I imagine they’re not actually the most valuable targets, and if they are, that their time is likely to expire. Is ten years a long time you think? I know of dealers who have been going 30+ that don’t fuck about online

 

[Type-IIx]

I guarantee you that a lot of the accounts have been bought and sold that you think of as the same person, too. There’s a huge market for that, to both exit, and to enter with an established market.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

I imagine they’re not actually the most valuable targets, and if they are, that their time is likely to expire. Is ten years a long time you think? I know of dealers who have been going 30+ that don’t fuck about online

I was mostly saying ten years just due to appx when the Silk Road was going on.

Are those dealers doing huge volume or big $$$ that you speak of? Those are the type of thinking about.

I guarantee you that a lot of the accounts have been bought and sold that you think of as the same person, too. There’s a huge market for that, to both exit, and to enter with an established market.

Yeah that makes sense. If it happens with Instagram I’m sure it can happen with dark web. You think they just transfer the PGP info too no problem?

 

[Type-IIx]

I was mostly saying ten years just due to appx when the Silk Road was going on.

Are those dealers doing huge volume or big $$$ that you speak of? Those are the type of thinking about.


Yeah that makes sense. If it happens with Instagram I’m sure it can happen with dark web. You think they just transfer the PGP info too no problem?

No problem for the right price!

No, they’re not very high volume, and also their warez aren’t making them public enemy number one. That’s the common thread.

I think if they want you badly enough, you’d better be really creative in your methods, how you go about running such an empire. It’d involve lots of employees, and lots of starting capital to foster loyalty.

Such methods would be something kept close to the chest, like a massively high stakes poker game but you’re gambling with your freedom and staking everything on riches.

 

[Trippy802]

Someone I know has been using usps for years and years and never had a problem. Of course he hasn’t ran a major operation sending a ton of packages out a week but still never had and issue. One time a package with cash got mixed up and it took 3 weeks to get to the guy but it still got there. (Money was vacuum sealed and put in a domke film bag) this was years ago to be fair but he still uses them regularly now.

 

[juicybanana69]

So if fake return addresses can lead to issues, if someone wanted to run a group buy and ship out a couple kits domestically, how would you go about hiding the originating shipper name and address?

 

[Sampei]

So if fake return addresses can lead to issues, if someone wanted to run a group buy and ship out a couple kits domestically, how would you go about hiding the originating shipper name and address?

I don't feel it lead to issues, just use a real address that is not yours. worse case scenario the package get thrown away.

 

[BigDadd7]

So if fake return addresses can lead to issues, if someone wanted to run a group buy and ship out a couple kits domestically, how would you go about hiding the originating shipper name and address?

You want to be a vendor and you can't even figure this out? Buy a nice clean bathtub first.

 

[juicybanana69]

You want to be a vendor and you can't even figure this out? Buy a nice clean bathtub first.

With jets or no jets?

Isn't that the point of whoever created this thread? Not that I have any interest in being a "vendor" unless you consider doing a group buy a vendor.

 

[verylargeshoes]

PS the domestic raw shortages extend to…. mast E. Nothing more. And are characterized by staff issues, indiscipline… nothing to do with manufacture in China.

This post...aged like milk?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

This post...aged like milk?

well it most certainly not really connected with the de minimus shit as it wasnt only the US that was affected

 

[Ghoul]

well it most certainly not really connected with the de minimus shit as it wasnt only the US that was affected

It was the Chinese acting preemptively to try and head off the steps the US was preparing to take against the China for supplying drug precursors, and their use of de minimus to slip massive amounts of contraband past customs. The US went ahead with clamping down on de minimus anyway as it was long planned, but it was absolutely connected to that policy.

Unless you think the Chinese suddenly "found Jesus" and coincidentally decided to shut down illegal drug precursor production across the board a few weeks after the election.

 

[readalot]

Reviving this thread...let's say I want to remain as anonymous as possible and send some stuff to Jano for testing. Yes I know, no one cares about several samples, but let's assume it could be a big problem.

How would you go about this? Cryptostamps? Print your own label, drop in USPS drop box?

This is the right post to bump.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It was the Chinese acting preemptively to try and head off the steps the US was preparing to take against the China for supplying drug precursors, and their use of de minimus to slip massive amounts of contraband past customs. The US went ahead with clamping down on de minimus anyway as it was long planned, but it was absolutely connected to that policy.

Unless you think the Chinese suddenly "found Jesus" and coincidentally decided to shut down illegal drug precursor production across the board a few weeks after the election.

Lol, cant even admit you are wrong. The stock up thread was based around US blocking their importation. not the Chinese going after the manufacturers and affecting the global supply?


You can go ahead and respond, but I dont care what some loser at life has to say.

You are still more than welcome to come to the trailer trash chili cook off.

 

[readalot]

They went after manufacturers.

Truth as I understand it.