Deadp007
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L-carnitine base but what about the:
L-Methionine
Inositol
Choline
Where do you source yours?
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Can B Vitamin Injections Be Dangerous?
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L-Methionine
Inositol
Choline
Where do you source yours?
Date_Mike
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Pure bulk.
I use choline l-bitartrate because that’s all they have. Most recipes I’ve found use Choline Chloride. From what I’ve found researching- no difference.
I was looking up the L-Carnitine to see if it was easy to make and it is with BAC, so I bought some today. Can I add the MIC to it? I didn't see what you were all mixing it with.
Date_Mike
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I just use BAC then mix with whatever I’m using. So yeah, everything I’ve mentioned just goes in the BAC.
Once again, all water soluble (dissolve in water)
Is this how you do it? Just want to make sure I'm not blindly following a Youtube video.
View: https://youtu.be/OQftpw6ujlM
Date_Mike
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That is correct. I actually used that same video as the base of this process
So this is how you do all your B-vitamins too? And you've never had an issue with injecting them? If I knew it was this easy, I would have been doing this a long time ago. I'm going to have to head on over to bulk supplements today. Will have to get a beaker, mixer.. and whatever else I need.
Date_Mike
Subscriber
Correct
If I'm using the Bacteriostatic water is this guy saying just put 12 ml in or are you supposed to be combining and putting 12.5 ml in?
Date_Mike
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I don’t understand the question. I use approximately 12ml. You have to sort of assume a displacement factor for whatever you’re adding
Just found the answer. For some reason all the text wasn't opening up for me before. Now I see where the recipes are written out and the links. Before I was just trying to follow his video and it wasn't clear.
His recipe with Sterile Water: 20mL @500mg/mL10.1g L-Carnitine Powder12.25mL Sterile Water for Injection (W.F.I.).25mL Benzyl Alcohol
His recipe with Bacteriostatic Water: 20mL @500mg/mL10.1g L-Carnitine Powder12.5mL Bacteriostatic Water
Date_Mike
Subscriber
No.
12.5ml of BAC water
10g of L-Carnitine
You cannot measure powder in mL. I suggest not trying to brew this yourself, you don’t have a clear understanding
gettinginshape
New Member
You can undershoot total volume by a mL or two and then dilute it out with additional bacteriostatic water in a volumetric flask once everything is dissolved (assuming you're not pushing the absolute limits of solubility). Even the cheap ones are +/- 0.5% accuracy or better.
Huh? That's the same thing written in my post. The powder is not in ml, it's in grams. I think you may have just looked at the number after the powder.
I had just copied and pasted it, but it reads..
20mL @500mg/mL
10.1g L-Carnitine Powder
12.5mL Bacteriostatic Water
(He said he likes to go 1% over on the L-Carnitine so that accounts for the extra .1)
The only thing I wasn't originally clear on was how much BAC water. I'm clear on that now though. Thank You.
Thanks
29trt
Member
carnitine brew needs to be buffered for correct PH in order to reduce pip, don't know how that would change with the addition of B vits and choline etc
Date_Mike
Subscriber
Sorry I was at work and read through it too quick. You have it correct
No worries.
It doesn't mention any buffering or PH in the video. I have seen it mentioned in other places though. What would you need to do for just straight carnitine with BAC?
29trt
Member
Yeah it seems that some get away with no buffering... I think it comes down to the raws used and what ever combination is being done.
A Ph above 7 is usually targeted and this is accomplished by the addition of baking soda. You basically measure the finished brew( before filtering ofcourse) and if PH is below 7 you add Baking soda bit by bit until you get A pH you are happy with.,... some experimentation is required.... for example I get PIP if PH is around 7 but at 9 I get no PIP
Oh and also I am talking about Carnitine base here as the raw powder not tartrate etc.
And again I have to mention that all this goes out the window when adding a bunch of other stuff like choline inositol etc I have not researched this nor have I experimented with it. Planning to but need to find out what forms of the raws work best for injections... there are 9 kinds of inositol for example,,,
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