Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

[Hughinn]

He’s clearly mentally ill - not a Russian troll etc - & he believes what he’s posting is “the truth” & it’s extremely important that he spreads it. He’s also an extremely aggressive & obnoxious cunt - one of the most obnoxious cunts I’ve come across in over 20 years on forums.

@hometeam Honestly mate, just leave him to it.

I get why you feel the need to counter his arguments & for the most part I think you’ve done a grand job. But he’s essentially just preaching to the converted - ie our resident neo-Nazi @falseprophet09 - who believes every Jew is part of a plot to enslave the “white race” & end “freedom” blah fucking blah. Bubba is no more converting others to his beliefs than the BBC guy whose been posting all the full-on tinfoil conspiracy stuff on Meso for years. The difference between them is that the BBC guy isn’t highly aggressive & confrontational & prone to inviting those who disagree with him to meet for a punch-up, like Bubba the Dixie DYEL is.

My point here is you’re not really achieving anything here. You’re an intelligent guy that (unlike Bubba the Dixie DYEL) has much to offer the forum on core subjects, ie training, nutrition, gear, harm reduction,

Lmfao.

The same idiot that used tren while training for a marathon?

GTFO

yet all your time on Meso is being taken up arguing with this unstable, delusional fanatic that going off his post history here & elsewhere, has nothing better to do with his life.

If you stop responding to him, this thread will go the same way as the BBC guy’s threads - everyone ignores them.

As it is, your responding to him just encourages Bubba, reinforces his delusional world view & breathes more motivation into him.

Do everyone a favour mate - fuck Bubba off, ignore him & his delusions & come back to posting on Meso proper - IE start posting about core topics again.

Call me bubba and swamp trash all you want.

You can't debate me. Nor could you slug it out with me and win. You know it. I know it.
So hate all you want.

But, I'll admit you're right about one thing, I do think it important to point out the lies and deception of my own government. And I won't stop doing it.



If you don't want to hear it, then just say away

 

[Zebedee]

Call me bubba and swamp trash all you want.

You can't debate me. Nor could you slug it out with me and win. You know it. I know it.
So hate all you want.

I told you before, I’m British, not American - what does that mean?

Btw - I didn’t call you “swamp trash” - don’t put words in my mouth.

 

[hometeam]

he believes what he’s posting is “the truth” & it’s extremely important that he spreads it.

I've interacted with him enough to know he doesn't believe it, though his ego may feel it extremely important to "win" an argument somehow even if he is wrong. It's more insidious than that.

Ukraine running out of troops and our boys are next?
Even if you go by what Reuters says is obviously a crudely altered version of the leaked document circulating on Telegram, it's not nearly enough casualties to be running out of troops:
"Whoever doctored them put the estimated killed-in-action figure for Ukraine, 16,000-17,500 — in the Russian field, which originally gave 35,500–43,500 killed in action. It also transposed the digits for the Ukrainian assessment, changing 16,000-17,500 to 61,000-71,500."

Russians Accused of Doctoring Leaked Western Documents on Ukraine War

US officials scramble to get classified files deleted from popular social media sites

www.voanews.com

Then the Russian head of Wagner whose troops are fighting in Ukraine says Ukraine has a whole lot of troops:

War in Ukraine Wagner says kyiv has assembled more than 200,000 men for counteroffensive News

The head of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said on Sunday that Ukraine has assembled more than 200,000 troops for its imminent counteroffensive against Russian News

www.dailynewsen.com

Russia is going to tank our economy with a currency scheme?
Every day another economist comes out and says that isn't happening and wouldn't tank our economy if it did. Here's Steve Forbes 2 days ago:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZZfLPwEH80
He makes a good point that the Chinese Yuan represents only 3% of global transactions.

It's just Russian scare tactics as part of their information war. If you've only seen one side of the argument I can get how you can be tricked, but once you see the proof it is not true and you continue to deny, deny, deny... "it's all lies from Washington and the MSM," etc the only conclusion that can be reached is he's on a deliberate misinformation campaign.

He's the one that cares about bloodshed? If the Biden administration had not sent aid he'd be the first to cry foul.

Like the trolls at the factory in Russia, he's trying to get people to believe things he himself knows isn't true. 12 hours a day on multiple forums, thousands of posts.

A Russian troll farm worker reveals what the 'merry-go-round of lies' is really like

'We all were doing the same job filled with lies,' says employee tasked with churning out misinformation to undermine Ukraine and the US

www.independent.co.uk

He wants America and her allies to fail and lose because he's unhappy with the results of the last election. He wants civil war in America and he wants bad things to happen to the US because he blames Washington for everything bad in his life and the world.

And he's gone now, he was given enough rope to hang himself over and over, but I'll let you make up your own mind what kind of mentally ill piece of shit does that. One less headache in my life.

 

[Zebedee]

And he's gone now,

This is all that really matters. Now members can have calm, rational & even respectful (if not friemdly) discussions on this thread’s topic without the Dixie DYEL screaming insults & abuse at anyone who disagrees with him.

I despise that kind of behaviour on forums. There’s just no need to be aggressive &/or a cunt to others on the forum.

 

[mass gain]

This is all that really matters. Now members can have calm, rational & even respectful (if not friemdly) discussions on this thread’s topic without the Dixie DYEL screaming insults & abuse at anyone who disagrees with him.

I despise that kind of behaviour on forums. There’s just no need to be aggressive &/or a cunt to others on the forum.

He has continued where he left off here on another forum.
Better there than here is what I say.

The guy needs another fixation. Some of his posts were just cringeworthy. Its almost like he was conditioned to think the way he does.

 

[Zebedee]

He has continued where he left off here on another forum.
Better there than here is what I say.

The guy needs another fixation. Some of his posts were just cringeworthy. Its almost like he was conditioned to think the way he does.

He’s not the only one - @hometeam promptly followed him over there & started up the arguing all over again!

 

[hometeam]

He’s not the only one - @hometeam promptly followed him over there & started up the arguing all over again!

just for 1 day, they should know what he is

 

[mass gain]

He’s not the only one - @hometeam promptly followed him over there & started up the arguing all over again!

Ok but lets be honest, this site we are talking about has turned to shit over the last several months to a year.

Its pretty much idiots or self proclaimed experts starting arguments in every thread and the ones who do it the most were removed like the trash they are from this forum.

My point being that yeah they are both arguing over there although @hometeam doesn't call names. My main point when I noticed Hugh initially was better there than here because arguing and insulting members is what that board has become. So its the perfect place for that kind of shit really.

This board, there is some arguing but this board isn't dominated by chest thumping delusional idiots.

 

[hometeam]

This board, there is some arguing but this board isn't dominated by chest thumping delusional idiots.

The mods at that board have their favs. And mixing sources into the board doesn't help things. It's interesting how the extremists rush right to the political threads, but I'll let them be for awhile. This board is much better. Pretty sure Hugh is on thin ice there.

 

[mass gain]

The mods at that board have their favs. And mixing sources into the board doesn't help things. It's interesting how the extremists rush right to the political threads, but I'll let them be for awhile. This board is much better. Pretty sure Hugh is on thin ice there.

He is but he is also backed by the guy I was telling you about mainly because they guy I was telling you about is a conspiracy theorist.

It is ironic that he backs Hugh as well because he was always whining that political threads should not be allowed in BB forums yet on ASF the guy I was telling you about constantly rattled off conspiracy theories and his love for Trump + hate for Biden under one of many of his alts.

He used the alts because he realizes if used the name where many view him as an argumentative ass on other topics they would ridicule him for being a weirdo conspiracy theorist.

Anyway the real ironic thing is that other board doesn't even have a political section and it was agreed upon months ago that there would not be any politics and arguing in the general convo forum. Hugh left and then came back after he was banned here and now he is posting politics in the general forum. Go figure.

Sent you a PM. A little bit of related info.

 

[Inspired]

Where's the forum? I want to know.

 

[Zebedee]

Where's the forum? I want to know.

UGBB

 

[Zebedee]

just for 1 day, they should know what he is

They already did mate. Many (but not all) there share not only his extreme partisan politics but also his aggressive, confrontational posting style - he’s basically preaching to the converted.

Credit to likes of the Diesel guy over there though for being able to both debate & to disagree whilst remaining civil.

 

[mass gain]

They already did mate. Many (but not all) there share not only his extreme partisan politics but also his aggressive, confrontational posting style - he’s basically preaching to the converted.

Credit to likes of the Diesel guy over there though for being able to both debate & to disagree whilst remaining civil.

Agree. The mods there condone that behavior too and one of them now actually takes part in the bullying. He stated in a post its acceptable to act like a child, call names and insult people if the person has it coming in his mind.

If you want to see members with fragile egos insult new and veteran members consistently on a daily basis while the mods condone and participate in the behavior, that board is your place.

 

[hometeam]

Frederick Kagan of the Institute for the Study of War (ISW), who formerly taght at West Point and advised Petraeus on the surge, did an interview a couple weeks ago where he was asked to summarize the current state of the war:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tajis6p4BUQ


He said: "The basic situation in a nutshell is the Russians launched a big offensive over the winter which everybody missed because it went absolutely nowhere. This was after having called up several hundred thousand reservists; they launched attacks all along the line in Luhansk and that may have set a record speaking as a professional military historian that may have been the first time that a major prepared mechanized offensive did not penetrate the first prepared defensive positions of the adversary. That's not a record you want to hold but that's the record the Russians held.

The Battle of Bakhmut was not the winter offensive. The Battle of Bakhmut was the secondary effort by the Wagner Group, and that has been grinding forward and I do mean grinding in a way that has chewed up the Wagner Group in pursuit of a gain that is absolutely not operationally or strategically significant, and that is ongoing. Pretty much all the other Russian offensives have stopped or stalled, been defeated and now pretty much everybody is waiting for the Ukrainian counter-offensive. That's basically where the war stands right now"

@falseprophet09 so this "gloves off" winter offensive where now the 10ft tall Russians will show their true might without holding back, running all over Ukraine, ended up being more of a whimper. Wagner is pretty much combat ineffective on their own so Russia sent their most elite airborne troops and it does appear they will take the former 70k population town of Bakhmut soon, but we've been saying that for months. Apparently there isn't a building in the city that isn't damaged.

 

[Megadick3000]

Hugh got banned? For what? just being an offensive jerk?

 

[mass gain]

Hugh got banned? For what? just being an offensive jerk?

Talk of violence against others I believe.

 

[Big_paul]

I don't mean to be a party pooper because Russia can not come out of this a clear winner for the sake of humanity, but they could end it all in 10 minutes. All the talk of new weapons systems is horseshit.

At some point there must be a negotiated settlement.

 

[hometeam]

I don't mean to be a party pooper because Russia can not come out of this a clear winner for the sake of humanity, but they could end it all in 10 minutes. All the talk of new weapons systems is horseshit.

At some point there must be a negotiated settlement.

General Bakshi agrees, because nuclear war would be bad for India too no matter how low the risk or how much we shouldn't give in to nuclear blackmail. Here he is 2 weeks ago:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyKzWRC_Azo&t=1973s

"Any hopes of a ceasefire, whether under Chinese mediation or under Indian mediation or the G20, we could only think of this somewhere around August and September. That is the time when both sides have shot their bolt, they have launched their offensives, and they are now aware of the outcome of their offensives. Only then will the two sides be amenable to a ceasefire and to peace talks. But right now if we try it would be premature because the battle outcome is still open." -Bakshi

But I dunno, I think the Ukrainians will still be pretty pissed around August/Sept.

 

[Megadick3000]

Talk of violence against others I believe.

Lol what a twat. He was threatening members? Im sure bros were shaking in their britches from the cyber threats.