Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

[hijoshiki]

Do we need this scene or is it just another money laundering scam?

It's not money laundering, it's contracts to people that don't produce results, it's just cash for friends.

With no independent accounting firm in place that works without government money. It's sort of like the cops that investigate themselves when they carry out an unjustified shooting which happens every day in this country and is quickly swept under the rug.

Internal quality control with no oversight from a group of people that hold your ass to the flame when you are doing wrong will never work.

 

[Hightower]

It's not money laundering, it's contracts to people that don't produce results, it's just cash for friends.

With no independent accounting firm in place that works without government money. It's sort of like the cops that investigate themselves when they carry out an unjustified shooting which happens every day in this country and is quickly swept under the rug.

Internal quality control with no oversight from a group of people that hold your ass to the flame when you are doing wrong will never work.

Yes, this does not change the essence - this is legalized theft and deceit. As a result, money is stolen, and people live worse and worse.

 

[Hightower]

You are right that they cover each other. This is a kind of sendikat where everyone is tied up and participates in the distribution of financial flows. Covering all sorts of documents and events.

 

[Hughinn]

There is a difference. See my above post and consider who made that obvious criminal activity perfectly legal.

Why do you call it criminal activity in Russia, but not here?

Besides, after the fall of the Soviet Union, western banks and the international monetary fund created the environment that led to the ogliarchy in Russia, they made it legal not Putin. He came well afterwards

The real thing Putin did was expel those ogliarchs that wouldn't get on board with the Russian national interests. So those who refused, mostly non ethnic Russian ogliarchs took thier billions and went to tel Aviv, London, Kyiv and New York to lobby our government to take a billigerent stand against Russia and lobby for NATO expansion in order to get back what they lost by not siding with Putins government.
The ogliarchs that took Putins deal are the ones today getting their shit siezed by US government agencies all over the world. Even though They're not being accused of any crimes.

So how is that any better?

 

[Hughinn]

It's not money laundering, it's contracts to people that don't produce results, it's just cash for friends.

With no independent accounting firm in place that works without government money. It's sort of like the cops that investigate themselves when they carry out an unjustified shooting which happens every day in this country and is quickly swept under the rug.

Internal quality control with no oversight from a group of people that hold your ass to the flame when you are doing wrong will never work.

There's a reason large chunks of this "ukranian aid" is is cash.
You can bet large chunks of that cash will end up in the pockets of pro-war US government politicians of both parties and especially DNC election campaigns during the Biden regimes reign

Look at the last decade of Ukraine lobby money and look who took it.
The DNC and Clinton campaign

 

[hijoshiki]

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There's a reason large chunks of this "ukranian aid" is is cash.
You can bet large chunks of that cash will end up in the pockets of pro-war US government politicians of both parties and especially DNC election campaigns during the Biden regimes reign

Look at the last decade of Ukraine lobby money and look who took it.
The DNC and Clinton campaign

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When you see all these politicians on the right and left eagerly lining up to give money to other countries and yet still calling themselves fiscal conservatives and the fact that most of them get filthy rich while they're office. You know what's going on. It's like that scene in Casino where the mobster walks in the counting room and everyone pretends he's not even there, he opens the door and fills his suitcase full of cash and walks out.

 

[Hightower]

When you see all these politicians on the right and left eagerly lining up to give money to other countries and yet still calling themselves fiscal conservatives and the fact that most of them get filthy rich while they're office. You know what's going on. It's like that scene in Casino where the mobster walks in the counting room and everyone pretends he's not even there, he opens the door and fills his suitcase full of cash and walks out.

Great comparison to the mafia very accurately describes this shitty situation

 

[Big_paul]

It's like that scene in Casino where the mobster walks in the counting room and everyone pretends he's not even there, he opens the door and fills his suitcase full of cash and walks out

It could be that the president and most in Congress realize who the bad guys are, and they want to help the good guys. It's no surprise nationalist in this country would support putin though. You really need to consider the source in today's America.

 

[Zerg]

It could be that the president and most in Congress realize who the bad guys are, and they want to help the good guys. It's no surprise nationalist in this country would support putin though. You really need to consider the source in today's America.

The president and the congress know who will pay a kickback if you give them 40 billion dollars. They could give a shit less that they are prolonging this war and will get 10 of thousands more killed as long as they get their money.

 

[Big_paul]

The president and the congress know who will pay a kickback if you give them 40 billion dollars. They could give a shit less that they are prolonging this war and will get 10 of thousands more killed as long as they get their money.

You actually believe this? Do you think that our government officials are supporting Ukraine for kickbacks?

All I can say is that if a foreign power invaded my country I would fight just like Ukraine is doing. Seems like some here would rather rollover and take it up the ass.That's not a good survival strategy for a sovereign nation.

 

[Zerg]

You actually believe this? Do you think that our government officials are supporting Ukraine for kickbacks?

All I can say is that if a foreign power invaded my country I would fight just like Ukraine is doing. Seems like some here would rather rollover and take it up the ass.That's not a good survival strategy for a sovereign nation.

You ever hear of a guy named hunter biden.

Every one over the age of 35 in Ukraine was born a Russian. Maybe they should have thought twice about running bio weapon labs on the Russian border.

 

[Big_paul]

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There's a reason large chunks of this "ukranian aid" is is cash.
You can bet large chunks of that cash will end up in the pockets of pro-war US government politicians of both parties and especially DNC election campaigns during the Biden regimes reign

Look at the last decade of Ukraine lobby money and look who took it.
The DNC and Clinton campaign

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The vast majority of Republicans in Congress support Ukraine you know.

 

[Zerg]

The vast majority of Republicans in Congress support Ukraine you know.

Every one of them need to be primaried. These punk ass bitches will not be sending their kids to fight some bullshit war for some bullshit corrupt country.

 

[Big_paul]

You ever hear of a guy named hunter biden.

Yes. That is a tragic story.

Every one over the age of 35 in Ukraine was born a Russian. Maybe they should have thought twice about running bio weapon labs on the Russian border.

There are some who supported Russia obviously. I'd say there are fewer today.

Who is at greater risk of chemical or biological attack, Russia or Ukraine? Who has recently used chemical weapons.

You are parroting Russian propaganda.

 

[Zerg]

Who is at greater risk of chemical or biological attack, Russia or Ukraine? Who has recently used chemical weapons

If covid has taught us anything it is that we are all at risk from bio weapons.

Nobody uses chemical weapons because they are ineffective compared to convention weapons, at most they are weapons of terror.

 

[Hughinn]

The vast majority of Republicans in Congress support Ukraine you know.

Yeah I know.
I'm not very fond of most of the establishment republicans either.

I admit I predominantly vote Republican, because the alternative to me is completely unacceptable. Although I do like Tulsi gabbard and I find the ideas of Andrew Yang very interesting.

We really need a third or fourth party here. The two party system doesn't work when most of one party and all of the other are actually on the same side. And it's not the side of the people

 

[Zerg]

Just think if Zelensky had just stepped down nobody would be dead and one corrupt government would have been replaced with another.

 

[ironwill1951]

Just think if Zelensky had just stepped down nobody would be dead and one corrupt government would have been replaced with another.

i have to ask if you have ever been to a foreign country

 

[Zerg]

i have to ask if you have ever been to a foreign country

I have been to many from shitholes to paradises. I used to do patrols on the Czech border when it was lined with miles of dragon teeth. My oldest 2 sons are combat veterans too and have seen more of the world than most

 

[Big_paul]

Yeah I know.
I'm not very fond of most of the establishment republicans either.

I admit I predominantly vote Republican, because the alternative to me is completely unacceptable. Although I do like Tulsi gabbard and I find the ideas of Andrew Yang very interesting.

We really need a third or fourth party here. The two party system doesn't work when most of one party and all of the other are actually on the same side. And it's not the side of the people

I don't like either party. Another viable political force would be welcome by many of us. Personally I don't like having to make a decision based on which side is the least destructive, but the choice is clear imo.