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klokke23
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I just assumed all major federations used kg. So I thought seasoned powerlifters would assume kg in my post. I should've made that clear in op
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Stan Darsh
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Not my favorite compound for strength. I know some people seem to respond well to it and get good gains, but not the case for me. I think it has it's place tho. I like it in a drier stack for help with weight management and in a wet stack for estrogen control. With that said, I much prefer primo and anavar if we're choosing something from the dht derivative category for direct strength gains. Primo also doesn't touch my lipids which is a huge plus and Mast hurts my hdl pretty badly. Anavar obviously hurts my lipids but I can run it for 6 weeks and see some pretty great results. The key is it needs to be from a very good source or legit pharm grade.
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Same here. Even on a low dose of Anavar with a cruise dose of test. I've ran it for every meet I've done since I first tried it.
I would prefer to do anavar, but I already get debilitating back pumps as is. Where as Anadrol does not seem to do that for me.
I don't seem to get that from Anavar. Anadrol makes me so tired if I even sit down I'll fall asleep.
Maybe I'll have to give it another shot.
Most orals give me those back pumps. Anavar not as much. Halo not at all. It’s great for strength. If I were using it for that I’d probably run 75mg/day.
But be careful. The muscles get stronger faster than the ligaments and tendons. I popped an IT band squatting on Var and haven’t been right since.
barbell001
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Its just not stimmy at all is it bud, I have to keep myself really motivated when training on it but if I do the strength comes in well on the heavy stuff. This is why I like some quality, sharp Dbol so much as once you are loaded on it the muscle torque you can get is something else, especially CNS strength.
I've never given Anavar a proper shot in the 50mg to 100mg range. Supposedly Haack is a huge muncher of it and also Adrol.
Whose anavar do people like here?
Stan Darsh
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Var is highly underrated IMO. I feel like those who call it "weak" or "cosmetic" have never had a chance to use 50-75 MG from a real compounding pharmacy. Pair it with high test and primo at the right time and you'll have yourself a match made in heaven. There is a reason this is my go to combo!
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JesterBOB
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In powerlifting, it seems to me that the correctness of technique and training program is more important, and pharmacology is the second question.
JesterBOB
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Haaсk, I'm sure with his genetics on holy water can progress. He is just a unique athlete.
Best results I’ve gotten for strength was using test/tren/whinny. Finally broke 400lb on bench.
I was doing a high test dose like 700 of cyp or E, 200 tren e, and about 50 Win oral daily.
I never take an oral longer than eight weeks.
As a note though, my best progress from strength training always came by putting together months of injury free training. For me that was difficult bc I enjoy pushing it so hard.
Learning to hang back, build strength and challenge myself without high risk of tweaking something, then peaking correctly probably made more difference than the drugs…..
But Tren doesn’t hurt your chances either.
I was doing a high test dose like 700 of cyp or E, 200 tren e, and about 50 Win oral daily.
I never take an oral longer than eight weeks.
As a note though, my best progress from strength training always came by putting together months of injury free training. For me that was difficult bc I enjoy pushing it so hard.
Learning to hang back, build strength and challenge myself without high risk of tweaking something, then peaking correctly probably made more difference than the drugs…..
But Tren doesn’t hurt your chances either.
Not often discussed, but more important than drugs. Up there with training, genetics, diet, and getting proper rest. A guy that never gets injured can go a long ways. I've spent so much time off one lift or another over the last eight years of powerlifting.
barbell001
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Absolutely pal absolutely - In many ways I look at him as more gifted than Larry. I'm sure Haack is up to somewhere around 275kg on Bench and 410/420kg on Deads now. At his bodyweight its just insane, his Deads are conventional too and are of Full ROM. I remember the first time he hit a 220kg bench and watching the video of him doing it and I was just so jealous LMAO Especially when for years I was stronger than him LOL Then from then on I would just get weekly Youtube updates of him banging on 5kg every week it drove me INSAAANNNEEEE!!! Lol Now I just accept the fact he is a GOD and thats that - 1 in a BILLION who we should all just admire from a far
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How did you like tren e at 200? I wanted to try a little but didn't know if 200 was worth it
I don’t handle tren very well compared to what I hear others being able to do.
I’ve gotten all the sides messing with it, and very inconsistently. 200 seems to be enough to make a difference I notice, but not so much I freak out and act irresponsibly.
What’s weird is the sides vary even when dosage, and even the batch of the oil I was pinning was the same.
Only constants were a more aggressive attitude, and crazy night sweats. Once it kicks in I dress in clothes like youd wear if you were a distance runner, outside in winter. Like base layer stuff that pulls sweat off you. Then I put down two bath towels on the bed and point a fan at myself before sleeping. Huge pain in the ass but it works.
On 200 I noticed strength and ascetic benefits. But higher than that it basically made me a crazy person.
You’ll have to find out for yourself what’s good for you. I’m sure a lot a guys would say it’s not enough, but I also hear a lot of guys saying 400-500 test does great stuff for them. For me that dosage doesn’t do much. But then 600-700 is like perfect and gives me awesome results.
Ok cool
Thanks for the detailed response!
I think we're similar in that aspect. I've ran tren low dose but not for long. I also like a higher test dose
barbell001
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Buddy for me the key to running tren is at least double the amount in Test. If you plan on running say 500mg Tren then run 1gram test. I'm not saying you have to do it but what happens is trenbolone I find is an energy sapping, depressive, hard to breathe on Devils creation BUT will constantly build strength and muscle mass the longer you stay on it - its as simple as that. By running high test you feel less breathless after big lifts and going to failure in sets and you will feel much more positive and energised. I know some guys find high test difficult to tolerate but for the life of me I cannot imagine running 500mg Tren on say 200mg Test and I know plenty who do but they find the whole thing more of a chore and a mind fuck than something to enjoy. Another drug that offsets Tren sides is Dbol, the euphoric nature of it offsets the depressive nature of the tren and together they work unbelievably well for both strength and huge size overnight. First time I ever ran Test, Tren and Dbol was a magical thing - everything about it was brilliant and I'll always class it as my first taste of what a proper steroid cycle feels like
Thank you sir ill keep that in mind!Buddy for me the key to running tren is at least double the amount in Test. If you plan on running say 500mg Tren then run 1gram test. I'm not saying you have to do it but what happens is trenbolone I find is an energy sapping, depressive, hard to breathe on Devils creation BUT will constantly build strength and muscle mass the longer you stay on it - its as simple as that. By running high test you feel less breathless after big lifts and going to failure in sets and you will feel much more positive and energised. I know some guys find high test difficult to tolerate but for the life of me I cannot imagine running 500mg Tren on say 200mg Test and I know plenty who do but they find the whole thing more of a chore and a mind fuck than something to enjoy. Another drug that offsets Tren sides is Dbol, the euphoric nature of it offsets the depressive nature of the tren and together they work unbelievably well for both strength and huge size overnight. First time I ever ran Test, Tren and Dbol was a magical thing - everything about it was brilliant and I'll always class it as my first taste of what a proper steroid cycle feels like
JesterBOB
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It seems to me that John is that person, more precisely, an alien who can raise the results to heaven. That hardly anyone will reach them.Absolutely pal absolutely - In many ways I look at him as more gifted than Larry. I'm sure Haack is up to somewhere around 275kg on Bench and 410/420kg on Deads now. At his bodyweight its just insane, his Deads are conventional too and are of Full ROM. I remember the first time he hit a 220kg bench and watching the video of him doing it and I was just so jealous LMAO Especially when for years I was stronger than him LOL Then from then on I would just get weekly Youtube updates of him banging on 5kg every week it drove me INSAAANNNEEEE!!! Lol Now I just accept the fact he is a GOD and thats that - 1 in a BILLION who we should all just admire from a far
