Jan 6

[Hughinn]

Your response betrays an emotional, knee jerk reaction indicating no ability even to consider the viewpoint being offered. There is nothing in what you wrote that even indicates you understood what I wrote, much less addressed it in your response.

Horse shit once again.

You're assertion that the capital riots on Jan 6 we're in no way comparable to the Kenosha riots and the summer riots of 2020 was totally incorrect. And I explained why.

Because both riots had the same political goals, to affect the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

The only difference is that one was on behalf of the democrat party, and sponsored by corporate globalist billionaire donors and endorsed & organized by democrat party elites, and the other was in opposition to them.

You said Trump "told lies" to rile people up.

I explained to you how Joe Biden and Kamala Harris also told lies to rile people up.

Your assertion that the two are not comparable, is total bullshit.

And I called you on it. That's all.

 

[Big_paul]

For over one hundred days, a federal courthouse in Portland was under attack by left wing activists who tried to burn it down, throwing firebombs and shining laser's to blind police. They set fires first to the doors to try to trap people inside.

These riots were not disenfranchised and marginalized people trying to make thier voices heard. These were college educated and University trained activists backed , funded and supported by the democrat party for the purpose of creating chaos and violence for political gain.

So keep on talking the same "orange man bad" horsehocky you always do @Big_paul .

But don't pretend like you're here trying to condemn using violent protests to make political manuevers more effective. And show your pretentious scorn for the "orange menace" while vehemently supporting the democrat party, who undeniably pulled the same shirt your accusing Trump of.

Because when joe Biden called Kyle Rittenhouse a "white supremacist" and Kamala Harris met all doe eyed and teary with the family of Jakob Blake, while going on national television and saying riots and protests shouldn't stop, they knew what the hell were doing. They were calling for violence. Because they thought violence and chaos would get them more power. The democrat party basically ordered a strike on a small American community by their own degenerate foot soldiers.

You on here pretending like there's a fundamental or moral difference between the two, is the very definition of delusional. And that goes for @Chieftain too

If course, you leftist derelict mongers here would struggle to understand such an obvious fact, it's true nonetheless.

Interesting. I was wondering what happened to you. Seemed you disappeared.

As many of our discussions go, I disagree.

 

[Chieftain]

Violence and chaos orchestrated by the people who are now in charge.

Because chaos gives them excuses to grasp for more power.

all this is terrible and very deplorable for us

 

[malfeasance]

You said Trump "told lies" to rile people up.

Where did I say that? It's like not only are you incapable of understanding and analyzing another's argument, but you probably did not even read it. Just post "horse shit" and state dogmatic, absolutist opinions, and pretend like you are having a logical argument. You've probably spent most of your life doing this and do not even realize it.

 

[Big_paul]

But don't pretend like you're here trying to condemn using violent protests to make political manuevers more effective.

I do condemn violent protests on both sides. There are lunatics on both extreme.

It seems that the only defence the insurrectionists have is that blm protesters were no better. What reasonable person would agree with either?

 

[Big_paul]

You said Trump "told lies" to rile people up.

Absolutely.

 

[Cherokee]

Condemning violence. LOL.

Shows most don't even have anything they believe in to fight for.

Thats the only thing humans respect, or the fear of. Anything else is talk. Thats the problem with white Americans, they are a mess of pussy's, scared to hurt peoples feelings, letting their short sighted compassion destroy their children's future.

Every time blacks want something, they know what to do, burn the city down. Then the Government kisses their ass.

Special forces take over whole countries with fear. A few go in, one day one politician turns up missing, few weeks later, another one turns up missing or is strung on a pole somewhere. Only takes a few acts to scare a whole group. A small team can take over a whole country like that. The Ghandi shit won't get you anywhere, nor Jesus

 

[Chieftain]

I do condemn violent protests on both sides. There are lunatics on both extreme.

It seems that the only defence the insurrectionists have is that blm protesters were no better. What reasonable person would agree with either?

also against violent protests no matter what goals they pursue

 

[Chieftain]

Absolutely.

Trump is a disgusting president for me, he did not care about us, about the people. He only promoted himself

 

[Chieftain]

But honestly a deplorable picture of the presidents. Trump, Biden. The latter does not look reliable at all and does not have its own opinion, as if it is being controlled.

 

[Hughinn]

Interesting. I was wondering what happened to you. Seemed you disappeared.

As many of our discussions go, I disagree.

Go ahead and pretend like you don't see it @Big_paul .

But we both know you're smarter than that.

Black lives matter is not a representative group of oppressed people of color. It's a political action committee. They took in at least 90 million dollars just last year from left wing special interest groups and wealthy donors.

BLM is not an organization from the streets of black of America. BLM is a creature spawned in the universities among rich white liberals, funded and organized by leftwing super PACs and democrat party elites. That's why they were allowed to riot. Not to "make their voice's heard". Because nobody in power disagrees with them. These people are well funded, well organized and backed by the ruling class. Not disparaged.

They are the foot soldiers of the democrat party. And when joe Biden and the democrat party propoganda networks lied about the shooting in Kenosha, and Kamala Harris called Jacob Blake a hero, they knew what was going to happen. Everyone did.

They told lies to incite violence. Just like you accuse Trump of doing.

essentially ordering an attack on that town, and thier soldiers answered the call.

I'm just not going to let you sit here and spew all that "orange man bad garbage" and "insurrectionist" talk about "political violence". I've heard from you for years here. When you're supporting people who do exactly the same thing. If one was an insurrection, then so was the other. Just orchestrated by different people

Call it what it is man. It's all corruption. And we don't really have a democracy. It's an ogliarchy with a side show.

 

[Hughinn]

Where did I say that? It's like not only are you incapable of understanding and analyzing another's argument, but you probably did not even read it. Just post "horse shit" and state dogmatic, absolutist opinions, and pretend like you are having a logical argument. You've probably spent most of your life doing this and do not even realize it.

Fact of the matter is, for all you bellowing and bewailing about the riot at the capital, it was fundamentally no different than the the state sponsored attacks at the federal buildings in Portland. As well as the lies of Joe Biden and the propaganda networks that instigated the violence in Kenosha. State sponsored, funded and organized violence for political reasons to oppose and damage the current power structure.
Basically insurrection.

So just cut the crap sir.

And we'll let this die.

 

[Big_paul]

And we'll let this die.

Good idea. Just a bunch of guys on a steriod board defending politicians who couldn't be less concerned about anyone here.

 

[Chieftain]

Fact of the matter is, for all you bellowing and bewailing about the riot at the capital, it was fundamentally no different than the the state sponsored attacks at the federal buildings in Portland. As well as the lies of Joe Biden and the propaganda networks that instigated the violence in Kenosha. State sponsored, funded and organized violence for political reasons to oppose and damage the current power structure.
Basically insurrection.

So just cut the crap sir.

And we'll let this die.

for me, these uprisings are usually paid for and planned. But the problem is that the people who participate in this do not understand this and piously believe in the idea.

 

[Chieftain]

BLM is not an organization from the streets of black of America. BLM is a creature spawned in the universities among rich white liberals, funded and organized by leftwing super PACs and democrat party elites. That's why they were allowed to riot. Not to "make their voice's heard". Because nobody in power disagrees with them. These people are well funded, well organized and backed by the ruling class. Not disparaged.

BLM is a political and well-planned organization. As for me, the idea is not to fight for the rights of people, but to put pressure on the authorities and keep and maintain chaos in the country. And unfortunately it smells of anarchy (

 

[malfeasance]

Fact of the matter is, for all you bellowing and bewailing about the riot at the capital, it was fundamentally no different than the the state sponsored attacks at the federal buildings in Portland. As well as the lies of Joe Biden and the propaganda networks that instigated the violence in Kenosha. State sponsored, funded and organized violence for political reasons to oppose and damage the current power structure.
Basically insurrection.

So just cut the crap sir.

And we'll let this die.

It was happening during a certification process for a national election for the highest office in the land. Congress was actually counting electoral votes, an official act required for the election result. This process was disrupted.

That alone makes it drastically different in ways you seem unable to appreciate but readily would if the folks doing it had been politically on the other side and the election had gone the other way.

 

[Hughinn]

It was happening during a certification process for a national election for the highest office in the land. Congress was actually counting electoral votes, an official act required for the election result. This process was disrupted.

That alone makes it drastically different in ways you seem unable to appreciate but readily would if the folks doing it had been politically on the other side and the election had gone the other way.

Wrong yet again.

Your inherent and persistent liberal line of bullshit somehow prevented you from seeing the real picture.

Both Jan 6 and the violence pushed by the DNC leading up to the election had EXACTLY THE SAME MOTHER FUCKING GOALS: to affect the outcome of the presidential election.

Both situations for the definition of an insurrection. " a violent uprising against an authority or government" what building is involved means absolutely Jack shit to the intended actions of the perpetrators.

The only difference was that one was against the establishment ruling class and the Democrat party, and the other was on their behest. That's why the full force of the system is brought down on one, and the other gets a playful swat on the ass

The only real "drastically different" things about it all, is what you see on CNN. "Orange Man bad". "Democrat party good".

Cut the bullshit. And you see two sides of the same coin.

 

[malfeasance]

Which part of my post was "wrong?" The fact that I do not see an equivalence between riots in cities over the summer and fall compared to storming Congress while the Congress critters are actually counting electoral votes does not make anything in my post "wrong."

When you post things like "Your inherent and persistent liberal line of bullshit somehow prevented you from seeing the real picture," it betrays the fact that you have no fucking clue who I am, what I am about, or, well, what I wrote.

It sure makes you feel better, though, to post things you have no idea about and then pretend that they support your argument, doesn't it?

You can't see past your own bullshit.

You are myopic in the extreme and look only for the things that support your preconceived notions without allowing any other evidence to intrude. That is not a good way to reach valid conclusions, but then you aren't really interested in valid conclusions so much as desperately clinging to the conclusions you already have no matter what the evidence says.

Anything anybody says that might even cause you to question your conclusion is automatically rejected as "bullshit," and everybody who does not come to your exact conclusion is labelled as a "liberal," which makes it easier for you to dismiss what is being said and not give it any real consideration.

Don't think this makes you unique. In my lifetime I have noticed this becoming a pronounced trend among Americans. It is much more common than decades ago for Americans to be entrenched in their positions and name calling to the other side. And it is not unique to either side of the political aisle or to you. It is not a good trend for the nation or culture or society in general.

 

[Hughinn]

Which part of my post was "wrong?" The fact that I do not see an equivalence between riots in cities over the summer and fall compared to storming Congress while the Congress critters are actually counting electoral votes does not make anything in my post "wrong."

When you post things like "Your inherent and persistent liberal line of bullshit somehow prevented you from seeing the real picture," it betrays the fact that you have no fucking clue who I am, what I am about, or, well, what I wrote.

It sure makes you feel better, though, to post things you have no idea about and then pretend that they support your argument, doesn't it?

You can't see past your own bullshit.

You are myopic in the extreme and look only for the things that support your preconceived notions without allowing any other evidence to intrude. That is not a good way to reach valid conclusions, but then you aren't really interested in valid conclusions so much as desperately clinging to the conclusions you already have no matter what the evidence says.

Anything anybody says that might even cause you to question your conclusion is automatically rejected as "bullshit," and everybody who does not come to your exact conclusion is labelled as a "liberal," which makes it easier for you to dismiss what is being said and not give it any real consideration.

Don't think this makes you unique. In my lifetime I have noticed this becoming a pronounced trend among Americans. It is much more common than decades ago for Americans to be entrenched in their positions and name calling to the other side. And it is not unique to either side of the political aisle or to you. It is not a good trend for the nation or culture or society in general.

Meaningless and insignificant post.

You don't see the equivalence between the DNC riots and Jan 6 because your own bias won't let you admit it. But you do see it. You can continue to lie and gaslight all you want. We both know it's bullshit.

That whole post is full of shit. Empty rhetoric with no coherent point.

 

[Cherokee]

Fuck Liberals/Democrats, and the rejects in society they hang with