Testoviron 20 amps Thailand

[Isrrike]

Just got these in. Couldn’t find any pics of them in plastic trays like mine I only see the cardboard slots that look like generic hgh boxes inside. Anyone ever come across testos with trays like this?
The oil is more yellow than clear if that’s any consellation

 

[Mcflyfast]

Damn LOL

They can't get no faker than that. Thailand doesn't even sell 20amp boxes anymore, they only make them in 1 amp boxes now and they are not cheap either.

I hope you dont pin that.

You should mention where you bought those so people can avoid them.

 

[lifter6973]

Damn LOL

They can't get no faker than that. Thailand doesn't even sell 20amp boxes anymore, they only make them in 1 amp boxes now and they are not cheap either.

I hope you dont pin that.

You should mention where you bought those so people can avoid them.

I couldn't spot amp fakes if my life depended on it. Source name would be nice. Also would be nice to test and see what actually is in those.
What I don't get is people always say test is so cheap to produce. Is this just a case of counterfeiting to charge more for supposed pharm brand and perhaps there really is the proper amount of test e in there?

 

[Isrrike]

I’m guessing these are fake too then

 

[Isrrike]

 

[Mcflyfast]

I couldn't spot amp fakes if my life depended on it. Source name would be nice. Also would be nice to test and see what actually is in those.
What I don't get is people always say test is so cheap to produce. Is this just a case of counterfeiting to charge more for supposed pharm brand and perhaps there really is the proper amount of test e in there?

I believe so yes not always though.

I’m guessing these are fake too then

I mean, those are the new Iran Hormone amps but the amp insert is from the Aburaihan test e....

In Turkey, they are floating around.....

Post the source

 

[AlwaysHungry]

@Mcflyfast you post photos of legit testovirons if you have some on hand?

also does bayer eu produce 20amp boxes?
I've seen 20amp testovirons boxes for sale on a source here at mesorx

 

[Mcflyfast]

@Mcflyfast you post photos of legit testovirons if you have some on hand?

also does bayer eu produce 20amp boxes?
I've seen 20amp testovirons boxes for sale on a source here at mesorx

I don't have any in hand but I will have a friend send me photos. No one makes 20 amp boxes, if they do, they are 100% fake. All Bayers aside from Pakistan and India are coming in 1 amp per box.

I think I know the sources selling them but they haven't updated their site from awhile. I believe they are "out of stock too".

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Bayer Schering ceased to exist in 2011, and the company is since then called Bayer Pharma AG.
In Germany, the largest packaging unit for all testosterone products is 10 vials. These 20-packs from "Thailand" have been around for 20 years and I am very sure that they did not originate from the Bayer production line then or now.

 

[Mcflyfast]

Bayer Schering ceased to exist in 2011, and the company is since then called Bayer Pharma AG.
In Germany, the largest packaging unit for all testosterone products is 10 vials. These 20-packs from "Thailand" have been around for 20 years and I am very sure that they did not originate from the Bayer production line then or now.

I am sorry but you are wrong... I spoke with Bayer headquarters in Bangkok and they were getting importations from Germany. Same like the company Panpharma in Germany exporting some of their medicines to the Thailand market.

As I said, now German Bayer Testovirons for the Thailand market are coming in 1 amp boxes. They ceased production in 2017. There was a 3 year hault of no production. Majority of people were buying Rotexmedica as a substitute.

Now they are back in the market and the price per amp is 3x what it use to cost for a box of 20 amps.

 

[Oroku_Saki]

And what exactly am I wrong about? I wrote that Bayer Schering (as it appears on the package in the photos) has not existed since 2011 and that the largest packages available in Germany are those with 10 vials.

I don't know what international patent agreements the pharmaceutical companies have negotiated, so I didn't write about that. I only know that these 20-packs have been doing the rounds for ages and I am sure that THESE special 20-packs do not come from Bayer and have never come from Bayer. Whether there are smaller packs to buy now, that's fine with me, but I didn't write anything about that either.

 

[Mcflyfast]

And what exactly am I wrong about? I wrote that Bayer Schering (as it appears on the package in the photos) has not existed since 2011 and that the largest packages available in Germany are those with 10 vials.

I don't know what international patent agreements the pharmaceutical companies have negotiated, so I didn't write about that. I only know that these 20-packs have been doing the rounds for ages and I am sure that THESE special 20-packs do not come from Bayer and have never come from Bayer. Whether there are smaller packs to buy now, that's fine with me, but I didn't write anything about that either.

THESE special 20-packs do not come from Bayer and have never come from Bayer.

And again where are you getting this info? They are manufactured in Germany and exported to Thailand. Pakistan Bayer and Indian Bayer however does not. In Pakistan they are manufactured by another company called Medipharm Pvt. In India Zydus (Bayer) are produced at their Bayer factory in India. Regarding the Thailand ones, those are 100% imported from Germany. You can ask Bayer Thailand and they will tell you.

This I know for a fact. I have friends from Thailand.

Again, the smaller 1 amp packs have been released by Germany for the Thailand market in 1 amp box now. 20 amp boxes have been discontinued 2017. I believe it also had something to do with pharmacies selling individual amps to patients.

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Did you sell the stuff or why are you defending the rubbish so vehemently?
I don't really feel like discussing it, because it doesn't interest me at all, but to finish the story:
Perhaps there were actually packs of 20 in Thailand once, maybe as a clinic pack, family special offer or I don't know what. BUT: In the quantities that flooded the market at that time, it is simply impossible that these were actually produced by Bayer. There are export controls, end-use declarations and heavy fines if it becomes clear that the goods largely end up on the black market. No renowned company would take such a risk, especially if it actually earns its money in other areas.
By the way: Bayer has not produced Testoviron itself for a long time, but a subsidiary (Jenapharm) does.

Side note: The argument that you have friends in a country is not an argument. I also have friends in Serbia, apart from the information that you can still buy Galenika Testo in the pharmacy, they don't know anything either.

No offence, have fun. I'll stay out of it now.

 

[Mcflyfast]

Did you sell the stuff or why are you defending the rubbish so vehemently?
I don't really feel like discussing it, because it doesn't interest me at all, but to finish the story:
Perhaps there were actually packs of 20 in Thailand once, maybe as a clinic pack, family special offer or I don't know what. BUT: In the quantities that flooded the market at that time, it is simply impossible that these were actually produced by Bayer. There are export controls, end-use declarations and heavy fines if it becomes clear that the goods largely end up on the black market. No renowned company would take such a risk, especially if it actually earns its money in other areas.
By the way: Bayer has not produced Testoviron itself for a long time, but a subsidiary (Jenapharm) does.

Side note: The argument that you have friends in a country is not an argument. I also have friends in Serbia, apart from the information that you can still buy Galenika Testo in the pharmacy, they don't know anything either.

No offence, have fun. I'll stay out of it now.

Now you are just babbling shit.......

Your argument is based off assumptions. I wrote to Thai Bayer and I will screenshot their answer. This goes for anyone else on here that sees my post, send a email to Bayer Thailand headquarters, or ask Bayer Germany themselves and post it on here.

I can also tell you have little understanding about drugs and the black market too. Maybe you should ask Bayer headquarters too why they were stop in 2017........

Regarding your answer with Jenapharm, they are sold to the UK market, Greece, and I believe Romania/Ukraine.

Regarding Serbia, Yes medications are sold legally over the counter and yes AAS too at one point, I know because when I visited Serbia/Bosnia I actually grab 3 boxes of ICN Galenikas without a prescription. However, this is a fact that the shit out in market advertise is mostly fake (Original Serbia wise) they (EU resellers) are buying Bulgarian copies by the loads. Also, the last thing I heard on Slavik based forums is that you do need a script now similar like Moldova.

 

[Oroku_Saki]

Man, like i said, no offense. You don't have to take a screenshot of anything because I honestly don't care at all.
I just wanted to share my first-hand experience (Germany). If I had known that this was going to be a discussion about international drug trade, I would not have written anything.

And i got Jenapharm Testoviron out of the German Pharmacy a year and a half ago with a prescription, apart from Eifelfango and Rotexmedica.

Okay, that's really it. Again, no offense.

 

[SkankHunt]

These are real.

 

[GuerillaPete]

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These are real.

This is my favorite!

 

[GuerillaPete]

Did anyone lab test or pull bloods on the thai testovirons?
Might be properly dosed replicas!