My current Generic GH ranking

[Methyl Mike]

idk, never ordered TPs yet. Opti is good GH, but TPs are cheap as fuck. To answer your question, I would assume no. Nothing gets through Canada customs easily. They are very thorough. That’s why virtually nobody offers reships for Canada on international packs.

Ok so its hard getting stuff IN to canada but what about OUT? Cuz i have yet to see Pareto on any lists clearly he keeps his biz over there it just surprises me it doesnt float around. I will assume customs coming from Canada isnt that scary.

 

[Methyl Mike]

@mands thanks for this very helpful thread

I skimmed through the previous pages and couldn’t find an answer to my question, please forgive me if it was touched on and I missed it.

Have you ran any optitropin kits? If so... How would you compare them to the TPs (greys, mauves and blacks) that you put in your top 5 list back in 2018 when you originally made this thread? Quality on par/better, or do you still prefer TPs over optis (without cost as a factor)

Bump for Mands op on optis. Im still on the fence...

 

[muscletrain]

Bump for Mands op on optis. Im still on the fence...

You've mentioned Pareto a few times I'm guessing your USA. It doesn't leave Canada because Canada LE vs USA/exporting to USA is a whole different game.

There's a reason the super labs in CA have been around for double digit years....

 

[mands]

@mands thanks for this very helpful thread

I skimmed through the previous pages and couldn’t find an answer to my question, please forgive me if it was touched on and I missed it.

Have you ran any optitropin kits? If so... How would you compare them to the TPs (greys, mauves and blacks) that you put in your top 5 list back in 2018 when you originally made this thread? Quality on par/better, or do you still prefer TPs over optis (without cost as a factor)

I did run opit's. I ran two different batches of the greys. One was a darker grey top with flat surface and the other batch was a lighter grey top with text on it. I believe it read flip off.

I did test IGF-1 while running and they both were comparable to numbers I received running mauve's.

mands

 

[Methyl Mike]

You've mentioned Pareto a few times I'm guessing your USA. It doesn't leave Canada because Canada LE vs USA/exporting to USA is a whole different game.

There's a reason the super labs in CA have been around for double digit years....

Did not know I always figured Us/Ca had an open border or just about.

 

[Methyl Mike]

I was asked in another thread what my top 5 generic GH brands would be. These are all the ones I have personally ran or running. I have come to this ranking with IGF-1 scores, side effects and what they have done to my physique. I have made two list for ranking them. One which takes into consideration price per iu and one that does not.

This ranking DOES take into consideration price per iu.

1. Mauve Tops
2. Black Tops
3. Godtropin
4. Grey Tops
5. Somastim

This ranking DOES NOT take into consideration price per iu.

1. Grey Tops
2. Mauve Tops
3. Black Tops
4. Somastim
5. Godtropin

There are other generics out there that are still good IMO. These are just my personal choices.

mands

Bump for @bro.coli and whomever this will help.

 

[Methyl Mike]

Bump for Mands op on optis. Im still on the fence...

I think I made the right choice.

 

[muscletrain]

I think I made the right choice.

Opti's are great Mike, I think the Grey tops Mands is referencing in this list are The Grey Tops brand by TP though, but the 0 dimer Opti's are right up there imo with TPs products.

Unless someone comes with better testing or cheaper/same then its Opti/TP for me after Pharma.

Running a Jintropin kit i got for free from a buddy right now.

 

[Deathdog]

Anyone have any experience with dragonordance blacktops cheers !

 

[Forthewin1123]

I didn't read all 18 pages.. but my question is with the Grey black or mauve tops.. several sources carry all these colors.. I see them also on China sources for $50-$90 a kit.. even though the colors are the same.. the gh in the vial may not be the same correct? These colors in the rating are going from a few specific sources I assume?

 

[muscletrain]

I didn't read all 18 pages.. but my question is with the Grey black or mauve tops.. several sources carry all these colors.. I see them also on China sources for $50-$90 a kit.. even though the colors are the same.. the gh in the vial may not be the same correct? These colors in the rating are going from a few specific sources I assume?

They are from The Provider. You are correct, color top means nothing. The Grey Top is an actual branding by TP and Mauves etc are also from him. Never go by color tops.

Also the random shit off china sources are usually garbage especially at $50.

 

[79Lifter]

I’m running my last batch of opti’s 13iu grey tops from last year for an injury. They were/are definitely legit. Wouldn’t think twice about using him again.

 

[Methyl Mike]

I recall TP batch testing his kits whenever he would get a new shipment. God help us if the day comes and testing is not required of these sources to peddle what they have.

 

[Liska]

I recall TP batch testing his kits whenever he would get a new shipment. God help us if the day comes and testing is not required of these sources to peddle what they have.

Stopped testing a long time ago now.

 

[Methyl Mike]

Stopped testing a long time ago now.

Oh God AVOID that shit

 

[Forthewin1123]

They are from The Provider. You are correct, color top means nothing. The Grey Top is an actual branding by TP and Mauves etc are also from him. Never go by color tops.

Also the random shit off china sources are usually garbage especially at $50.

Thanks.. I figured they were from a specific source. I have seen these colors allover and with the Chinamen.. thanks.. I have yet to use gh.. but I'm saving up so I can purchase 2-4 when the time comes.. from what I've read 1 kit isn't really enough..

 

[muscletrain]

Thanks.. I figured they were from a specific source. I have seen these colors allover and with the Chinamen.. thanks.. I have yet to use gh.. but I'm saving up so I can purchase 2-4 when the time comes.. from what I've read 1 kit isn't really enough..

depends on where you live but USA, TP lines and Opti are trusted or just go with anything with proper HPLC testing at a minimum. Do not buy $50 shit off alibaba with random tops.

EU has Meditrope on here as well as a Opti reseller. Depends on what your goals are (fat loss, other benefits vs. actually hypertrophy) and yeah realistically ~3+ months is a nice run for GH. But the whole "It doesn't work/you don't see results unless you run 4 months or more" stuff thats parroted on forums is bro science fallacy.

Fat loss: Even 2iu pinned fasted pre cardio morning is my recommendation, there's a good writeup on saturation levels in regards to fat loss i believe by chest rockwell.

Gainz: 4-6iu of a good generic is plenty some guys get crazy and start slamming a vial a day but I think that's quite a bit.

 

[Liska]

depends on where you live but USA, TP lines and Opti are trusted or just go with anything with proper HPLC testing at a minimum. Do not buy $50 shit off alibaba with random tops.

EU has Meditrope on here as well as a Opti reseller. Depends on what your goals are (fat loss, other benefits vs. actually hypertrophy) and yeah realistically ~3+ months is a nice run for GH. But the whole "It doesn't work/you don't see results unless you run 4 months or more" stuff thats parroted on forums is bro science fallacy.

Fat loss: Even 2iu pinned fasted pre cardio morning is my recommendation, there's a good writeup on saturation levels in regards to fat loss i believe by chest rockwell.

Gainz: 4-6iu of a good generic is plenty some guys get crazy and start slamming a vial a day but I think that's quite a bit.

I've been thinking that the 4-6 months duration is for certain anti-aging benefits, those our community is primarily interested in are almost instant, at most noticeable after a couple of weeks, so I'd recommend that instead of breaking the bank for half a years worth, one should just buy a single kit to try/begin with, which at the recommended starting dosage of 2iu and potentially ramping up to 3-4iu at most will last well over a month.

It wouldn't be right for me to do this, but if someone compiled and updated a list of GH brands/batches that have been labtested in 2021 via Janoshiks new method, we could always point to that when someone asks for recommendations (one should still do their own research but it can be time consuming to find all these labtests from the bowels of Meso and other boards).

 

[muscletrain]

I've been thinking that the 4-6 months duration is for certain anti-aging benefits, those our community is primarily interested in are almost instant, at most noticeable after a couple of weeks, so I'd recommend that instead of breaking the bank for half a years worth, one should just buy a single kit to try/begin with, which at the recommended starting dosage of 2iu and potentially ramping up to 3-4iu at most will last well over a month.

It wouldn't be right for me to do this, but if someone compiled and updated a list of GH brands/batches that have been labtested in 2021 via Janoshiks new method, we could always point to that when someone asks for recommendations (one should still do their own research but it can be time consuming to find all these labtests from the bowels of Meso and other boards).

This would probably be a good idea, I'll poke around a bit but afaik has anyone posted updated testing on the mauves/TP stuff these days? I know opti has new tests out from OptiCan.

@janoshik could you maybe comment on what the highest purity % you've seen (don't need to say brand) under your new testing? It would help us kind of baseline what that is, afaik the old 98-99% ones on your old test seem to float in the 95-96% rating now on the new testing?

Or what did your reference sample that you use to baseline HGH test at under this new sensitive method? This info could definitely help the community.

Or what would a "Low" purity % on the new test be.

 

[79Lifter]

This would probably be a good idea, I'll poke around a bit but afaik has anyone posted updated testing on the mauves/TP stuff these days? I know opti has new tests out from OptiCan.

@janoshik could you maybe comment on what the highest purity % you've seen (don't need to say brand) under your new testing? It would help us kind of baseline what that is, afaik the old 98-99% ones on your old test seem to float in the 95-96% rating now on the new testing?

Or what did your reference sample that you use to baseline HGH test at under this new sensitive method? This info could definitely help the community.

Or what would a "Low" purity % on the new test be.

Lower purity usually correlates to higher dimmer.