Abs

[jJjburton]

Does anybody do abs?

does core really get enough work from squats and stuff?

Things like hanging leg raises?

do bodybuilders do core?

 

[Eman]

Here's a rule of thumb: if you want bigger abs, train abs more and/or diet more.

If you don't want bigger abs, keep doing what you're doing.

That goes for pretty much anything you want to improve...

 

[jJjburton]

Here's a rule of thumb: if you want bigger abs, train abs more and/or diet more.

If you don't want bigger abs, keep doing what you're doing.

That goes for pretty much anything you want to improve...

Yes i do want bigger abs, good point

 

[Loanranger]

The abs are always there, how deep u willing to strip to find them.
And what Eman says. Lol

 

[MFAAS]

Does anybody do abs?

does core really get enough work from squats and stuff?

Things like hanging leg raises?

do bodybuilders do core?

I do train abs but haven't been as consistent as I would like.

I consistently do 3 or 4 sets of 30 reps leg raises and rainbows on my pull days. I need to get some new ankle weights as mine leak sand constantly. Also stomach vacuum on leg days! Love the stomach vacuum exercise, it's one of my favorites.

I also like a couplethings for abs:

Heavy farmer carrys or weighted oblique crunches
Weighted crunches (take a 30 lb dumbbell and just go until my abs burn like hell a few sets)
Weighted russian twists (after the weighted crunches switch to twists)

Sometimes I will do flutters too and the alternating knee-to-elbow things.

 

[jJjburton]

I do train abs but haven't been as consistent as I would like.

I consistently do 3 or 4 sets of 30 reps leg raises and rainbows on my pull days. I need to get some new ankle weights as mine leak sand constantly. Also stomach vacuum on leg days! Love the stomach vacuum exercise, it's one of my favorites.

I also like a couplethings for abs:

Heavy farmer carrys or weighted oblique crunches
Weighted crunches (take a 30 lb dumbbell and just go until my abs burn like hell a few sets)
Weighted russian twists (after the weighted crunches switch to twists)

Sometimes I will do flutters too and the alternating knee-to-elbow things.

Ugh, yes these all sound awful. Lol
And painful. All these are moreso what i was thinking. But maybe just doing them in the PM.

 

[MFAAS]

Ugh, yes these all sound awful. Lol
And painful. All these are moreso what i was thinking. But maybe just doing them in the PM.

Doing some angle weighted leg raises once or twice a week isn't bad at all!

I also find it bith more effective and easier to do X number of weighted ab exercises than 100 situos or 50 leg raises. Even just putting a couple 2.5 or 5 lb ankle weights on leg raises adds up fast due to the leverage.

Abs do suck though. I purposefully do them in the middle of my routine otherwise if I wait til the very end I will be like "eh, fuck it" and either only do a set or two or just skip them haha. My abs are good and look good, but I am big in core strength.

 

[jJjburton]

Doing some angle weighted leg raises once or twice a week isn't bad at all!

I also find it bith more effective and easier to do X number of weighted ab exercises than 100 situos or 50 leg raises. Even just putting a couple 2.5 or 5 lb ankle weights on leg raises adds up fast due to the leverage.

Abs do suck though. I purposefully do them in the middle of my routine otherwise if I wait til the very end I will be like "eh, fuck it" and either only do a set or two or just skip them haha. My abs are good and look good, but I am big in core strength.

Ok nice, great ideas. Does the look of your abs and core show? When being consistant?

Will do 10 minutes if core 3x a week. Around my leg days. Really want a nice vaccuum pose going. I feel vacuum exercises alot!

 

[Spokeonawheel]

When I finally leaned down I noticed a lack of development in abs. So, spent the last 3 months actually training them. Doesn't take long to build them up really.

I just tend to throw in 7 or 8 sets of mixed exercises... hanging leg raise, any kind of weighted crunch or sit up using machines, etc. I just throw them in intersperaed with whatever larger muscle group I'm training towards the end of a workout.

 

[MFAAS]

Ok nice, great ideas. Does the look of your abs and core show? When being consistant?

Will do 10 minutes if core 3x a week. Around my leg days. Really want a nice vaccuum pose going. I feel vacuum exercises alot!

Yeah for sure. I have noticed significant improvement even just from when I began 4 set of leg lift twice per week. I treat abs like any other muscle group, like an accessory exercise. I started doing vacuum sets about 2 months ago and it's gotten way better. My and are also just generally tighter from that too. I do 30 seconds, 6 reps, 3 sets, once or twice per week.

 

[Type-IIx]

Hanging leg raises and crunches (weighted) are great for building the abs and should be a mainstay. But I used to think front squats strengthened my abs plenty until I started doing a variety of challenging isometric+single joint combination ab training and my core is way better for it. I wonder how much mass it really puts on.. but in terms of carry over to strength lifts, don't just train flexion, you want to train isometrically with tension and stabilization too IMO!

 

[meistugh]

Vacuums

 

[Bumpygooch]

I think too much time being spent on discussing different ab exercises. Like every other muscle, do something that stimulates them and promotes hypertrophy. You absolutely will NOT see a difference unless your diet and cardio are in order. Personal anecdote, was doing 9-15 sets of abs/week for months while bodyfat was in the 14-15% range, didn’t see anything different. For some reason, I’ve completely forgotten to do abs on this cut, down to 10% and see a noticeable difference(of course). Point is, yes, do abs(I need to start taking my own advice), but, don’t expect to see shit unless you slow down on the fork curls.

 

[jJjburton]

I think too much time being spent on discussing different ab exercises. Like every other muscle, do something that stimulates them and promotes hypertrophy. You absolutely will NOT see a difference unless your diet and cardio are in order. Personal anecdote, was doing 9-15 sets of abs/week for months while bodyfat was in the 14-15% range, didn’t see anything different. For some reason, I’ve completely forgotten to do abs on this cut, down to 10% and see a noticeable difference(of course). Point is, yes, do abs(I need to start taking my own advice), but, don’t expect to see shit unless you slow down on the fork curls.

Do you feel certain set ranges grow them differently. I feel thats a myth.

how do you allow for ab seperation from bulginess/thickness? I guess that aspect would be genetics?

 

[Bumpygooch]

Do you feel certain set ranges grow them differently. I feel thats a myth.

how do you allow for ab seperation from bulginess/thickness? I guess that aspect would be genetics?

I work through all the rep ranges, kind of treat them like calves, try to hit them 2-3x/week(except when I completely forgot to do them for 6 weeks). You don’t really know what you’re working with until you get down to about 10%. Even at 12% you kind of only get the silhouette/outline. At about 10% only now I see my lower abs are kind of small and poorly defined, so, I guess I’ll introduce weighted decline sit ups.