Getting big without it with minimal meat

Vendus

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Currently my meals are basically milk, protein powder, peanut butter powder, BEANS!, tortilla, cheese, eggs, shredded wheat, liquid egg whites, rotini, or ramen, RICE. OATMEAL. I’m desperately trying to get to 220 and it has taken 3 years to learn that eating meat daily disgusts me.

I love a burger steak and maybe chicken but not every day.

with the foods above I can easily. Hit 4000-4500 calories daily, 270 grams of protein, 5-600 carbs and anywhere from 80-130 grams of fat and probably fairly consistently.

theres nothing magical about the typical multi chicken meal a day right? And I should be able to do this just as well?
 
This also costs me lik 90 dollars a week including protein powder so it’s dirt cheap convenient for not having a ton of time, quick, and not really painful. I’d rather supplement food than enjoy it. I don’t enjoy it if I’m eating in bulking quantities no matter wat it is
 
If you're able to hit your macros with what you've laid out, i'd say you're fine.

Not sure if you would be coming up short on micros, but i suppose that could be supplemented if you're not getting enough through your diet.
Yeah I could always just take a vitamin or something for that. Good to hear this will work because I don’t think multiple chicken beef meals a day will ever work for me
 
Well shit this was my worry and exact reason for this thread.
That’s why we’re here brother, to look out for each other. Good luck.
lol IMO your diet looks fine. As stated above, you should be taking vitamins but I don’t see why you wouldn’t grow eating that.
 
Currently my meals are basically milk, protein powder, peanut butter powder, BEANS!, tortilla, cheese, eggs, shredded wheat, liquid egg whites, rotini, or ramen, RICE. OATMEAL. I’m desperately trying to get to 220 and it has taken 3 years to learn that eating meat daily disgusts me.

I love a burger steak and maybe chicken but not every day.

with the foods above I can easily. Hit 4000-4500 calories daily, 270 grams of protein, 5-600 carbs and anywhere from 80-130 grams of fat and probably fairly consistently.

theres nothing magical about the typical multi chicken meal a day right? And I should be able to do this just as well?

The only thing I would personally add.
(That I DO NOT recomend for most guys, as its a waste of money)
Is BCAAs
Which most lifters will get through their meat consumption (Typically more tha they will ever use)

Vegans/Vegetarians just dint get quite as much, especially for an enhanced athlete.

I'd also recomend Iron Vegan shakes, too much Whey fucks me up in the long run, but I feel much better only consuming Vegan protein. powder (Its a "sprouted" vegetable complex that's really easy in the stomac)

Good luck with the gains brother.

P.S
Fucking Harry squatter (Clarence Kennedy) is Vegan and hes an absolute fucking machine
He has some great content on YouTube as well
 
Unlike most who have posted so far I’m a huge advocate and more staunch voice for whole, non-processed foods (IE minimal shakes, powders, etc) and high protein, high meat diets. Eggs are great. Milk and whey/powder has its place. Beans can work.

I would check your protein sources for being complete as I’m completely unsure which ones fall into the category without google.

Unlike above, if you’re going to supplement, EAAs, not just BCAAs.

Anecdotally, I grew my best with lots of steak, one chicken meal a day, and a healthy heap of eggs/whites + copious carbs.

like most things, more than one way to skin the cat. Consistency in your diet and making sure you cover amino acid bases should get you plenty far. What I know FOR CERTAIN, is that powders will not get you where whole food will. Heed that and I bet you’re fine.
 
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Unlike most who have posted so far I’m a huge advocate and more staunch voice for whole, non-processed foods (IE minimal shakes, powders, etc) and high protein, high meat diets. Eggs are great. Milk and whey/powder has its place. Beans can work.

I would check your protein sources for being complete as I’m completely unsure which ones fall into the category without google.

Unlike above, if you’re going to supplement, EAAs, not just BCAAs.

Anecdotally, I grew my best with lots of steak, one chicken meal a day, and a healthy heap of eggs/whites + copious carbs.

like most things, more than one way to skin the cat. Consistency in your diet and making sure you cover amino acid bases should get you plenty far. What I know FOR CERTAIN, is that powders will not get you where whole food will. Heed that and I bet you’re fine.

Very true
I should have been more specific about the powders.
I personally do one shake a day, I find I feel bloated/kinda crappy if I eat too many protein supplements.

Excellent point about the whole foods.
 
Unlike most who have posted so far I’m a huge advocate and more staunch voice for whole, non-processed foods (IE minimal shakes, powders, etc) and high protein, high meat diets. Eggs are great. Milk and whey/powder has its place. Beans can work.

I would check your protein sources for being complete as I’m completely unsure which ones fall into the category without google.

Unlike above, if you’re going to supplement, EAAs, not just BCAAs.

Anecdotally, I grew my best with lots of steak, one chicken meal a day, and a healthy heap of eggs/whites + copious carbs.

like most things, more than one way to skin the cat. Consistency in your diet and making sure you cover amino acid bases should get you plenty far. What I know FOR CERTAIN, is that powders will not get you where whole food will. Heed that and I bet you’re fine.
I think that we grow better on whole foods, because you can introduce more nutrients..

Since the 2019 i am eating only whole foods but reduced protein like Chavez and Tuor advocate: 2g per kg from "complete sources".
Reduced chicken to 1 meal a day, 1 scoop of whey postwo, the rest is beef, total of 210g prots (i am 105kg) feeling great!

Ofc my diet ended up being low fat high carb diet, and never felt so good. Even when cutting.

A friend of mine avoids meat and eats, quark cheese, eggs, egg whites, but i would keep protein low or it will be hard to eat all that high volume food.
Conside that quark cheese is high in prots but the volume too...

If you can't eat meat meals just blend and eat like soup, Hunter Labrada does that and..... seems working for him ;) ;) ;)
 
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