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You've got your work cut out for you.
Teaching him the mentality of pushing past his limits
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I got ya
You've got your work cut out for you.
Teaching him the mentality of pushing past his limits
Btcowboy
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Thats why I think a starting strength program with almost forced progression be it 2.5 or 5 lbs may get him going
Worf
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Barbell Logic is another one to look into they have some free programming available.
I’d personally have him squat/bench small accessories 2x a week together. Deadlift/Ohp once a week. Add weights or reps every week. Should be able to make some progress and keep track of his numbers with something simple like that
Btcowboy
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I will check that one out as well. Totally agree and need to keep adding weight or reps every week. Also see if he will track actually make him track his own lol..
Btcowboy
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Haha day 2 and the kid didnt show.
Deadlift
135x8
225x5
245x3
295x3
335x3
365x4x3
Incline bench went lighter arm tendons on fire
Barx8
95x8
135x5
155x3x5
4.75 inch block pulls
275x3
335x3
385x4x3
Deads felt great bench sucked due to tendon issues. The lay off did not help this. Both arms from front delts down biceps to outside elbows down through forearms to wrists. Need a PT badly hope they open soon
Deadlift
135x8
225x5
245x3
295x3
335x3
365x4x3
Incline bench went lighter arm tendons on fire
Barx8
95x8
135x5
155x3x5
4.75 inch block pulls
275x3
335x3
385x4x3
Deads felt great bench sucked due to tendon issues. The lay off did not help this. Both arms from front delts down biceps to outside elbows down through forearms to wrists. Need a PT badly hope they open soon
Btcowboy
Member
Well isn't this fucking great.... hoping I can get some internet MD advice lol.
As most know I have had tendon issues for a while now. Was taking Glucosamine, Tumeric, Fish oil with success, some issue but minimal before the pandemic. Slacked off on it a bit while not lifting. Got all my equipment and started lifting this week.
Monday was bench, squat, bench with some minor pain on lift off. Tuesday did the skipped accessories and damn did that flare up the tendons in both arms. Wednesday deadlift, bench, block pulls and my arms were on fire. An hour after workout called to a structure fire, and between hauling hose, ladders, and fighting the fire my poor arms..... Been taking my supps as listed above, lots of ibuprofen, Voltaren, ice and heat. 2 days later they still hurt even to breath in.
The pain seems to be upper outside of elbows towards triceps. Seems to me to be tennis elbow. Its fucking intense at times and others dull but constant. Wakes me up at night too. Today is another bench day, I have axe and chainsaw work to do on Tuesday and worried. Spent all thus money setting up gym and then fry my fucking tendons first week.
I know I need a doc and or PT to evaluate, covid makes this tough but trying. Any thoughts about other things to try? Modified workout?
FML
As most know I have had tendon issues for a while now. Was taking Glucosamine, Tumeric, Fish oil with success, some issue but minimal before the pandemic. Slacked off on it a bit while not lifting. Got all my equipment and started lifting this week.
Monday was bench, squat, bench with some minor pain on lift off. Tuesday did the skipped accessories and damn did that flare up the tendons in both arms. Wednesday deadlift, bench, block pulls and my arms were on fire. An hour after workout called to a structure fire, and between hauling hose, ladders, and fighting the fire my poor arms..... Been taking my supps as listed above, lots of ibuprofen, Voltaren, ice and heat. 2 days later they still hurt even to breath in.
The pain seems to be upper outside of elbows towards triceps. Seems to me to be tennis elbow. Its fucking intense at times and others dull but constant. Wakes me up at night too. Today is another bench day, I have axe and chainsaw work to do on Tuesday and worried. Spent all thus money setting up gym and then fry my fucking tendons first week.
I know I need a doc and or PT to evaluate, covid makes this tough but trying. Any thoughts about other things to try? Modified workout?
FML
all the below will help, SOME, but in my experience, not alleviate all pain
elbow cuffs
horse liniment
hammer curls before lifting with slow tempo
massage/myofascial
Donnie Thompson Bowtie
get your shoulder nice and warmed up prior to lifting
light weight higher rep lat pulldowns prior to lifting
the fix is in your shoulder/thoracic mobility work, and maintaining that. i experience the same pain, and as long as i keep the shoulders and upper back healthy, im good to go
also, if you have bands, do some ultra high rep tricep pushdowns with that 40+ reps. you just want to get as much blood into the area as possible and flush the inflammation out the best you can
Btcowboy
Member
Thanks, I have a band and will give it a go and try your other suggestions as well. Have elbow sleeves will wear them all the time not just when benching near max. Also in 9 minutes gonna phone PT and see what they can do as well.
Worf
Member
Yup this has help my elbow pain. Doing 50 -100 of these after bench spread over a few sets
Btcowboy
Member
I do have to say, I just did 3x40 with the band off the top of rack and it did feel better. May do these every day and work on shoulder mobility. Left a message with PT so we will see
@Worf @Btcowboy
its why the Westside guys would do sets of 50+ reps of tricep banded pushdowns/db incline/hamstring curls. From the Westside literature i have read (haven't read or honestly searched for it in anything outside of there) tendon strength doesnt grow stronger in the normal rep ranges we do 1-10. Tendons need sets of 30+ to strengthen. Has something to do with the make up of the tendons. ill try and find that literature again and post it.
its why the Westside guys would do sets of 50+ reps of tricep banded pushdowns/db incline/hamstring curls. From the Westside literature i have read (haven't read or honestly searched for it in anything outside of there) tendon strength doesnt grow stronger in the normal rep ranges we do 1-10. Tendons need sets of 30+ to strengthen. Has something to do with the make up of the tendons. ill try and find that literature again and post it.
Btcowboy
Member
PT has me booked in for Tuesday. They are anticipating being open then...just waiting on the order that they can.
It's time they start growing superhuman tendons, joints, and bones in a lab and offer transplant surgery. Imagine what you could do with adamantium bones, genetically engineered super tendons, a myostatin inhibitor, and an extra liver or two.
Btcowboy
Member
Haha wishful thinking
FlobppaKroger
Member
Shoulder mobility. And if you squat low bar this well also cause pain in elbow. So avoid low bar for a bit fi you do them. Also try flossing with bands around the elbow it well force some blood into the joint.
Loosen chest and shoulders prior to squat and deadlift sessions. And Post bench session.Buffalo bar is good to keep elbow pain away if you still want to squat low bar but i know not everyone has access to that
Btcowboy
Member
Arms are still hurting, even on deep breaths. Knee is also causing me concern too. On squats last week felt some pain on rep 2 and finished my 5 reps. It wasnt heavy only 225,so not sure why. Since then any long walks or hikes cause the pain to flair up again. 2020 seems to blow, between Covid gym closures and finally getting equipment and getting hurt.
PT tomorrow and dont want to bombard him with a ton of issues. Will say arms first but mention knee and go from there.
Bench and squat day today but obviously not happening damn it. Light band work and mobility work is it. The kid says he wants to lift so may just coach him if he shows.
PT tomorrow and dont want to bombard him with a ton of issues. Will say arms first but mention knee and go from there.
Bench and squat day today but obviously not happening damn it. Light band work and mobility work is it. The kid says he wants to lift so may just coach him if he shows.
Btcowboy
Member
How I feel this week lol...
Acupuncture man. Its worked wonders for me over the years
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