Tony Mandarich Stopped Using Steroids and Starting Abusing Painkillers


so steroids are a "gateway" drug, to painkillers... and alcohol?

from the link.. "But only because Mandarich made the boneheaded decision to stop using steroids cold turkey when he joined the NFL’s Green Bay Packers."

it seems the biggest bonehead decision was to start abusing painkillers... and alcohol.

"He eventually returned to play three solid seasons for the Indianapolis Colts between 1996 and 1998 after he stopped drinking and overcame his addiction to painkillers."

maybe ped drugs, like steroids, make great athletes greater, and almost everyone is using them. and why not?

https://sports.yahoo.com/tony-mandarich-cites-steroids-painkillers-154544840.html
 
so steroids are a "gateway" drug, to painkillers... and alcohol?
Why would you think that?

Steroids made him great. He stopped using steroids and he wasn't so great.

Everyone wants to blame steroids for his failure when, in fact, they led to his success. It's only when he STOPPED USING STEROIDS and got addicted to painkillers that he had problems.
 
Why would you think that?

Steroids made him great. He stopped using steroids and he wasn't so great.

Everyone wants to blame steroids for his failure when, in fact, they led to his success. It's only when he STOPPED USING STEROIDS and got addicted to painkillers that he had problems.

i was being somewhat facetious.

i guess maybe steroids made him great, or at least evened out the playing field.
but steroids don't necessarily make great football players. they make great ones greater.
professionally speaking it may have been a boneheaded decision to stop using them. but ill stand by my statement that the biggest boneheaded decision was to start abusing painkillers and alcohol.

the article does say "He eventually returned to play three solid seasons for the Indianapolis Colts between 1996 and 1998 after he stopped drinking and overcame his addiction to painkillers.", and without steroids.

i also said this, and i think you would probably agree. "maybe ped drugs, like steroids, make great athletes greater, and almost everyone is using them. and why not?"

ill try to be clearer and more professional in the future :)
 
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i also said this, and i think you would probably agree. "maybe ped drugs, like steroids, make great athletes greater, and almost everyone is using them. and why not?"
I agree! As far as his biggest mistake, it's hard to say. There was no shortage of football players who stayed on steroids while using/abusing painkillers who still got the job done especially in the 70s/80s/early 90s. From solely a performance perspective, many will argue the painkillers, at a certain level, helped make it possible. Of course, at some point, it only became a detriment. It seems that Mandarich just did everything wrong.
 
I feel like the pendulum is gonna swing too far against opiates. People act like there aren't legit uses for painkillers, like there aren't people who can't go to work or function without them. I see a future where people in legit pain and cancer patients don't get what they need.
 
I feel like the pendulum is gonna swing too far against opiates. People act like there aren't legit uses for painkillers, like there aren't people who can't go to work or function without them. I see a future where people in legit pain and cancer patients don't get what they need.

i think this could be said of a lot of drugs.
most drugs have some therapeutic value, and some are called medicine.
some people use them, and some people abuse them. the difference isn't always clear.

the future of the war on drugs depends on how people perceive their use, and abuse, imho. and what drugs are really "needed", and for what?
 
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