New to tren

[Turbo charged]

It's really up to you. I misread your post and thought you were putting it in at the end. I would personally prefer to let the primo and GH shine for most of the cycle and then use the tren at the end. That's just me. I don't have any experience with tren hex.

The tren look doesn't really last very long so when I use it I am pretty much just enjoying the look it gives while I'm running it. As opposed to something like deca where you can use it to build muscle tissue and maintain or polish it up later on.

So you like the deca better than the tren on this cycle

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

1 to 20 weeks primo at 800 then 1000
1 to 12 weeks tren hex 200 mg
1 to 20 test e 250 mg
16 to 20 weeks winny inject 50 eod
Hgh 4 iu a day been on that already.
Aromasin 25 mg every third day 20 weeks
Caber .5 once a week as precaution b6 at 600 mg ed
While on tren

I think Eman has a point I'd personally slide the tren back to week 8 and run it till the end finishing strong and dry. Winny really no reason to pin it if its water based, just drink it. The only thing I don't really like is you have a ton of downtime at the start of the blast, but its a long ester marathon things take time. Or you can start with 4 weeks of winny and let the primo build, drop winny week 4 and pick up tren week 8 after some downtime for your liver....

Keep caber on hand but unlikely you will ever touch it, as needed only.
What label primo?

 

[Turbo charged]

I think Eman has a point I'd personally slide the tren back to week 8 and run it till the end finishing strong and dry. Winny really no reason to pin it if its water based, just drink it. The only thing I don't really like is you have a ton of downtime at the start of the blast, but its a long ester marathon things take time. Or you can start with 4 weeks of winny and let the primo build, drop winny week 4 and pick up tren week 8 after some downtime for your liver....

Keep caber on hand but unlikely you will ever touch it, as needed only.
What label primo?

Got pharmacom 200 primo and Bayer amps
Winny is oil base

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Reread your initial post and saw you're in for winstrol 4 week kickstart and 4 weeks at the end...looks like fun to me should see great results if you keep your diet clean. Good luck interested on a mid/post blast update...

If you get the tren-digestion I've used apple cider vinegar successfully in the past, especially when stacked with orals but hopefully some of that will be mitigated by the winny depot vs oral. I've read various opinions about winstrol working differently oral vs IM injection bc of the first pass through the liver but to be honest in all my experiences I've not noticed a profound difference. I am however one of the few fans of winny, most of my early experiences with gear were short blasts of test prop and winny depot. I thought huge needles, ED injections and PIP was just the price to play. Worth keeping in the mix imo, stacks great with tren

 

[Eman]

So you like the deca better than the tren on this cycle

No... I think tren fits much better.

 

[Munky]

Take care of your liver , especially if you are using orals, Tren has a 500/500 anabolic to androgenic ratio pretty potent , Tren cough can occur if you hit a vein , it goes away fast at least for me it did, poke away have fun lol