I actually took Arl’s Anavar before at 20/30/30/30mg pd by itself and had some nice growth and density. I didn’t know it was ARL’s var at the time (3 years ago or so), a gym friend just had extra vars around. Shit gave me mean ass pumps, couldn’t go on long distance runs anymore lower back would pump way too much. Def was a fan. Then when I received my bulk of their var little over a month ago when I looked at the tabs realized it was what I had had before and was stoked. Sadly had to get rid of it To offset some $$ though. I feel most ugl’s prob make a shit tbol or the raws they get for it aren’t that good or something. My friend took it when I did as well and netted some strength gains and solid growth as well. When I was saying strength gains I mean I squeezed out another 30lbs on a bench that had already increased 70-80lbs prior that year.