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[Trout90]

Looking for a lil next cycle advice. I've ran tren a few times and I like the results but it really messes with my bp too so I'm looking for alternatives. I've never ran masteron but heard it makes you feel great. I was thinking a test C and mast E or maybe even a test only cycle.

I'm 6'0 and 200lbs. About 12%bf

Give me some ideas with less harsh sides especially on my heart than tren... Thanks in advance

 

[iceman440]

Looking for a lil next cycle advice. I've ran tren a few times and I like the results but it really messes with my bp too so I'm looking for alternatives. I've never ran masteron but heard it makes you feel great. I was thinking a test C and mast E or maybe even a test only cycle.

I'm 6'0 and 200lbs. About 12%bf

Give me some ideas with less harsh sides especially on my heart than tren... Thanks in advance

What’s the goals?

 

[Trout90]

What’s the goals?

I'd like to gain muscle as retainable as possible while staying relatively lean. I'm hitting that 30 year old mark and I'm getting over the harshness of tren and want to stay healthier. I prefer longer eaters but I'm open to ideas. Like I said, i like the results of tren but would prefer a different compound mainly due to BP on tren being hard to control.

 

[Trout90]

Kinda over sweating out my bed sheets too haha

 

[iceman440]

Kinda over sweating out my bed sheets too haha

1-6 50mg Anavar ED
1-8 NPP
1-16 eq
1-16 cyp
10-16 50mg proviron ED

You could also switch out the proviron for an anadrol/winstrol stack, or even just winstrol I’d you can handle the harshness

 

[mp46]

So the potential for long term damage to the heart, mind, kidneys..no biggie but potential hair loss is the end of the world? Btw tren is pretty damn harsh on the hairline as well. You do realize you can get a hair transplant.

That’s really the first I’ve heard about hairloss and tren, its not even mentioned in the steroid profiles on here. I realize that any of these aas will cause elevated levels of whatever and put strain on the organs but that’s the point of monitoring with bloods and what not. I guess if I’m predispositioned for MPB It'll just show up sooner. My mother’s father had hair till he died but my fathers lost it for as long as I can remember.

 

[Urgentfury12]

Would there be any merit to pinning tren a just twice a week? Obviously there would not be stable levels, but was wondering if it would be like pulsing orals.

It’s been said it lessens the side effects

I'd like to gain muscle as retainable as possible while staying relatively lean. I'm hitting that 30 year old mark and I'm getting over the harshness of tren and want to stay healthier. I prefer longer eaters but I'm open to ideas. Like I said, i like the results of tren but would prefer a different compound mainly due to BP on tren being hard to control.

Simple Test 500 EQ 600 16-18 weeks. Throw some Anavar beginning and end. Lean keepable gains but it’s a long cycle.

 

[iceman440]

It’s been said it lessens the side effects

Simple Test 500 EQ 600 16-18 weeks. Throw some Anavar beginning and end. Lean keepable gains but it’s a long cycle.

Also, I think pinning tren ace twice a week , you won’t reap much of the benefits. I think it has a 2-4 half life

 

[Blange89]

Also, I think pinning tren ace twice a week , you won’t reap much of the benefits. I think it has a 2-4 half life

Not sure if I plan on trying it, but I have had success pulsing orals, and I know some only take things like TNE on big lifting days.

 

[puckhog]

Simple Test 500 EQ 600 16-18 weeks. Throw some Anavar beginning and end. Lean keepable gains but it’s a long cycle.

Just curious as to why you recommend EQ as opposed to Deca? Less water weight gain?

 

[mp46]

So bulk 12 week orals 1-6
Test 500
Deca 400
Dbol 50 daily

Cut 12 week orals 1-6
Test 400
Tren 400
Anavar 50 daily

.5adex 2-3x week


I guess if I’m going to lose my hair I’m gonna lose it sooner or later.

 

[Urgentfury12]

Just curious as to why you recommend EQ as opposed to Deca? Less water weight gain?

No water from EQ. Most hardcore meatheads want instant size and give EQ a bad rap. The only real downside to EQ it takes a long time to kick in hence the 16-18 week cycles. Don’t get me wrong Deca is great but I prefer EQ.

 

[Trout90]

Simple Test 500 EQ 600 16-18 weeks. Throw some Anavar beginning and end. Lean keepable gains but it’s a long cycle.

So you recommend eq over mast or another compound? Just curious as of why

 

[Urgentfury12]

Also, I think pinning tren ace twice a week , you won’t reap much of the benefits. I think it has a 2-4 half life

I was talking about two weeks of Tren, two weeks of NPP. Correct me if I wrong but someone here recommended running it like that to lessen the sides.

 

[Trout90]

I guess if I’m going to lose my hair I’m gonna lose it sooner or later.

I've mainly heard of hair loss related to masteron

 

[mp46]

Front load would help. I’ve run the numbers based on half lives and for the long eaters if you double the first two injections your numbers come up in about two 10-14 days instead of a month.

As far as sub q I do that but .5cc is about the limit before you start getting knots. It’s really only good for trt

 

[Urgentfury12]

So you recommend eq over mast or another compound? Just curious as of why

I’ve never run mast and have no plans on it. It all comes down to personal preference and goals I guess.
I’m not into being “Huge”, I’m into being big and fit. Too old to carry around 250lbs+. I like long cycles with compounds I can tolerate well and EQ is one of them.

 

[mp46]

I've mainly heard of hair loss related to masteron

I thought that too. Apparently @Worf said tren does it too. Quick google sreach pulls some threads talking about it specifically but it never seems to come up in general conversation.

 

[iceman440]

Not sure if I plan on trying it, but I have had success pulsing orals, and I know some only take things like TNE on big lifting days.

Yeah TNE is a pre-workout. You can cycle tren
2 weeks on 2 weeks off

 

[iceman440]

Just curious as to why you recommend EQ as opposed to Deca? Less water weight gain?

Well isn’t eq and Deca more like comparing apples to oranges?

NPP and Deca are similar ands DHB an EQ? (Correct me if I am wrong)

In my opinion, deca is more for swelling up on a mass cycle, not a lean gains cycle