Show Prep Cycle Discussion

[Mac11wildcat]

Opening this up as a place for discussion on what active or past competitors have to say about show cycles.

I’ve had someone run my protocol for a few shows and this may be my first go at it myself. Hopefully have a few weeks of kicking ideas around before settling on a solid scheme to take in to my next prep.

I am going to base this on my current plans of a qualifier several weeks prior to a national show, so keep that in mind as well.

In the past test, EQ, tren, primo, Anadrol, proviron, anavar, winstrol, and obviously anti-estrogens have been in play at various times.

Looking forward to solid discussion.

 

[TheH0517]

Definitely interested as I’m doing a mock prep in 2019. About to kick off with 16-20 weeks of Test, Deca, EQ, and Adrol. Then transition to 12-16 weeks of Test, Primo, Tren and Var/possibly Winny. 4iu+ GH throughout. Finish off with a 4 week rebound, but I don’t what I’ll use quite yet.

Anxious to hear what some successful guys have done.

 

[jaymaximus]

I've done tren, mast, test for the most part, I just change the dosing as prep moves on, higher mast, lower test. Usually I'll start with a good oral like sd or anadrol so I can keep strength up while cutting down, then end with anavar. I've kept it simple so far.

 

[Mayne]

I have heard good things about Halotestin in prep maybe look into that

 

[Mac11wildcat]

There’s zero chance I get this 100% spot on but my last prep looked something like:
Week 1-12
Test E - 500
EQ - 600
Primo E - 350
Anadrol - 50 ED (through week 4)
Proviron - 40mg ED

Week 12-15
Test E - 500
EQ - 600
Primo E - 350
Mast E - 350
Tren - 350 (starting 6 weeks out)
Prov - 60mg
Anavar - 60mg (anavar and winny start 4-6 weeks out)
Winstrol - 20mg


Week 15-18
Injectables the same except tren is ramped from the 350 to 700 and Test switches to shorter ester
Prov - ramped by week to 100mg
Anavar - ramped to 80mg
Winny - ramped to 60
-the qualifier show was somewhere in this stretch. We didn’t modify gear for the show.

Week 19/20 (show week)
Test is dropped 3 pins from show, no more injectables 4 days from show
Orals stay at their ramped values
Anti-e goes above stasis to lower E a bit

 

[Hawkins]

So @Mac11wildcat - the EQ stayed in through the show? You say no injections 4 days from show, but did you drop EQ sooner?

What was your anti-E? Assume you titrated up as show day got closer...

From a national level, where does this rank in dosage and number of compounds? From like 1-10?

 

[Hawkins]

I see you used Proviron the entire cycle. Never used it personally. This commonplace?

 

[ForeverSmall]

1-12
Test e 500 (upped to 750 at some point)
Deca 500
EQ 600
Dbol 50/drol 25 (2wks on 2wks off)

12-show time
Test 350
EQ 600 (I think?)
Tren ace 350
Last 4 weeks
Anavar 50
Proviron 100
Clen 40mcg up to 120mcg
T3/t4 I ran a quarter tablet I dont remember the dosage
Ran halo at the end but jesus christ that shit made me just pissed off, had to stop it.

Originally the plan had primo but I either fucked up the brew or it didnt agree with me. The pip was terrible.

Right now I'm running
Test 350
Deca 350
Dbol 50 on workout days.

Think I might push out the next show date because I've been slacking something fierce. Just started the cycle and luckily things have been good since I've been on.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

So @Mac11wildcat - the EQ stayed in through the show? You say no injections 4 days from show, but did you drop EQ sooner?

What was your anti-E? Assume you titrated up as show day got closer...

From a national level, where does this rank in dosage and number of compounds? From like 1-10?

I believe EQ stayed. I’ll try find the old google doc with the plan.

Anti-e was a normal dose of aromasin for the whole cycle. The prov and mast help a tiny bit. We used an extra couple doses of aromasin the days before the show. We didn’t want to try anything extreme. I agree with the ideology even though my stage look wasn’t great.

As far as national guys, I’m probbaly not using the least, but nowhere near heavy. There’s guys using grams of test and tren (even at my size) and a lot of gH and slin.

 

[Morefyah]

1-12
Test e 500 (upped to 750 at some point)
Deca 500
EQ 600
Dbol 50/drol 25 (2wks on 2wks off)

12-show time
Test 350
EQ 600 (I think?)
Tren ace 350
Last 4 weeks
Anavar 50
Proviron 100
Clen 40mcg up to 120mcg
T3/t4 I ran a quarter tablet I dont remember the dosage
Ran halo at the end but jesus christ that shit made me just pissed off, had to stop it.

Originally the plan had primo but I either fucked up the brew or it didnt agree with me. The pip was terrible.

Right now I'm running
Test 350
Deca 350
Dbol 50 on workout days.

Think I might push out the next show date because I've been slacking something fierce. Just started the cycle and luckily things have been good since I've been on.

Jesus!! 12 different compounds in 12 weeks. Fuck that life...

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Jesus!! 12 different compounds in 12 weeks. Fuck that life...

Yeah...it can be a bit much. But the orals at higher doses are brief. And all the other bullshit in life is cut out. No drinking. No drugs. No staying out late. No shit food. I honestly never feel better physically, emotionally, etc than on prep. It’s obviously not a “balanced” lifestyle, but it’s focused and clear cut.

Just to be clear, there’s still an eye on health. My blood work stayed relatively clean (obviously it wasn’t perfect given the stack) but I was back to normal <6 weeks post show and promptly took time off for my son’s first month or two of life.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

So as I’ve run through this offseason cycle I’ve enjoyed the higher test (750) but I really can’t justify it for prep with my being so estrogen sensitive to aromatization. Plus I do like to keep total mg as low as I can given the stack.

If anyone here has used DHB, where would you place it as far as similarity? I’ve heard weak tren, super primo, and concentrated EQ kicked around. Thoughts? Minimum effective dose?

 

[Morefyah]

Yeah...it can be a bit much. But the orals at higher doses are brief. And all the other bullshit in life is cut out. No drinking. No drugs. No staying out late. No shit food. I honestly never feel better physically, emotionally, etc than on prep. It’s obviously not a “balanced” lifestyle, but it’s focused and clear cut.

Just to be clear, there’s still an eye on health. My blood work stayed relatively clean (obviously it wasn’t perfect given the stack) but I was back to normal <6 weeks post show and promptly took time off for my son’s first month or two of life.

Don’t confuse my negativity response with disrespect. I commend all you guys for your hard work, dedication and discipline. It all just seems so extreme to me.! I agree when I’m on blast my lifestyle and discipline chances significantly. No drinking, clean eating and more consistent workouts.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Don’t confuse my negativity response with disrespect. I commend all you guys for your hard work, dedication and discipline. It all just seems so extreme to me.! I agree when I’m on blast my lifestyle and discipline chances significantly. No drinking, clean eating and more consistent workouts.

It is 100% extreme. There’s no doubt about it. Nothing particularly smart about it either. Which is why I take as cautious approach as I can with the drug side of things. I can’t imagine what some of these guys pinning 4-5ccs a day are going to look like in 10 years.

 

[Morefyah]

So as I’ve run through this offseason cycle I’ve enjoyed the higher test (750) but I really can’t justify it for prep with my being so estrogen sensitive to aromatization. Plus I do like to keep total mg as low as I can given the stack.

If anyone here has used DHB, where would you place it as far as similarity? I’ve heard weak tren, super primo, and concentrated EQ kicked around. Thoughts? Minimum effective dose?

I ran DHB for close to six weeks before it put me in the hospital. I Have mentioned this before that I’m not sold on it yet. Good luck finding a log with pics on DHB and Test only. Lol, there aren’t any!! I’ve scoured the net and not one COMPLETE log. Don’t you find that to be a bit odd yet everyone is pumping this shit in there body?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I ran DHB for close to six weeks before it put me in the hospital. I Have mentioned this before that I’m not sold on it yet. Good luck finding a log with pics on DHB and Test only. Lol, there aren’t any!! I’ve scoured the net and not one COMPLETE log. Don’t you find that to be a bit odd yet everyone is pumping this shit in there body?

Do elaborate. What happened?!

 

[Morefyah]

Do elaborate. What happened?!

The pip was bad it caused bleeding in my muscle. Which in turn caused hematomas on both of my vent glutes the size of softballs. There was no infection. This was in June and I still have golf ball size lumps.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Holy shitballs...

 

[FourOneDeuxFitt]

The pip was bad it caused bleeding in my muscle. Which in turn caused hematomas on both of my vent glutes the size of softballs. There was no infection. This was in June and I still have golf ball size lumps.

Fuck I remember the pics you posted from this. Jesus that was some nasty shit.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Are guys just happily murdering themselves with DHB? So confused. What was the carrier? 100mg/ml?