No love for pull ups? Literally nothing rips my back up more than rotating under and over handed pullups. I weigh 270 so I don't weight them... but you sure can if you are light.
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Barbell row vs hammer strength for building mass
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Morefyah
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Farmers walk fucks my lower back up!
Those are in the program but gotta have rowing movements as well as vertical to develop everything fully from my understanding
beameupscotty
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Which grip are using? Yates was a big fan of underhand grip, with a bend in his upper body, effectively making his torso 45 degrees. However, as even Yates advocates, these are exercises that worked for him. Personally, overhand grip and a closer to parallel stance over the floor lets me feel the contraction of bent over barbell rows.
What about T-Bar row? This is a back day staple.
Hey man, I'm doing his original program 87-92 so it has standard barbell rows listed and later he switched to the under hand. I definitely feel more with underhand, but I feel a straight on my bicep right at the elbow and since that's the movement he tore his on, I've decided not to chance it for now.
I'm a huge fan of tbar row but at my gym we're very limited on attachments so I can't mimic the wider grip. Your thinking is right tho, this would work great
As an update I did the hammer strength rows this week and did get a lot more out of it
Ipickthingsup
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I rely on single arm seated pull down. And at the end ilI' use both arms at once for great finish
Different targeted muscles but definitely a great movement
FourOneDeuxFitt
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Why not cycle the movements every 2-3 weeks?? I’m not sure how exactly your training regimen is set up. But when I used Layne Norton’s PHAT programs and using Barbell rows as a power movement I would do as such. Still numbers would always increase on both using one another. Also, felt like I gave my body a bit of a break using hammer strength being in a fixed position.
elitesales305
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ive noticed that if i keep my elbows at a 90 degree.. instead of dead straight on the stretch... wether row or pulp in any variation.. makes the back stretch more..thus a harder contraction..
only achievable on lighter than normal weight.. 12-15 rep range..
try it next time ur hangin on a bar or doing a barbell row, don't let the elbows straighten all the way.. just a slight bend..
it feels like a midget is hangin off your back from the pull .. gains brah!!!
only achievable on lighter than normal weight.. 12-15 rep range..
try it next time ur hangin on a bar or doing a barbell row, don't let the elbows straighten all the way.. just a slight bend..
it feels like a midget is hangin off your back from the pull .. gains brah!!!
Worf
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Full ROM Chins, pause 2 sec at the bottom and hang for a full stretch . Same with BB Bent rows, position your self so that the bar can be left to hang and pull your lats/traps at the bottom of the eccentric portion of the movement. Rev Grip BB bent rows, same 1-2 sec pause. Shit kills my back muscles every time.
Rosconow
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Not quite a necro thread....
I say do whatever works for you. If you dont feel it with one exercise, but do with another, then you're on to something.
I personally dont get much out of barbell rows, but but one arm dumbbell rows...look out. I strap in and hammer them out, best row exercise for me. Thats the great thing about training is finding what works for "you".
I say do whatever works for you. If you dont feel it with one exercise, but do with another, then you're on to something.
I personally dont get much out of barbell rows, but but one arm dumbbell rows...look out. I strap in and hammer them out, best row exercise for me. Thats the great thing about training is finding what works for "you".
Necessary Evil
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Barbell rows can easily be done the wrong way since 90% of lifters put their ego ahead of proper form and they don't hit the muscles they are supposed to. I can guarantee that if a high percentage of people lower the weight and actually do barbell rows with a solid form they will change their idea and see how good of an exercise it is. I personally for back do Pull/Chin ups and Barbell Rows and have amazing progress.
I second the Smith machine for good back development on rows. Also, using a narrower grip to let my arms glide along the ribs and have my back do the pulling rather than my biceps or momentum helps an awful lot too!!!!
anfee
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I can’t remember the name of the row, however the bent over barbell rows where you place the bar back on the ground between the reps to let your body relax is killer. Did these yesterday, right into rackpulls and then weighted pull-ups.
Pendlay row?
anfee
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There ya go. I couldn’t think of “pendlay” for the life of me
Vikingiron
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I think it's all about the pump...so whatever you have to do to get ton of blood into that area is the way to go- And when the movement no longer provides you with the pump then change it up.
Only thing you have to do when rowing either free weight or machine is pull your shoulder blades together when you lock out, every powerlifter I know does that it will 1. increase your back activation 2. improve your bench arch 3. actually teach you to row properly it is easier on a chest supported row initially which you implement into regular/pendlay row when more experienced (imagine pausing bench on your chest only you do it on the way up). I have to echo dead stop dumbbell row, if you know weightlifters do it it must be nice and rack pull elbow rotated inward
