Banning immigrants from "certain" countries

[ronin17]

Doesn't it kind of sound like how if the Middle East doesn't sell us oil we go in and overthrow democratically voted governments, murder innocent men, women and children, install dictators who would acquiesce to our will, etc? You play with fire long enough and you will be burned

Thank god. Someone who gets it.

 

[ronin17]

America has enough people, no need to let any more in. That being said, we sure do not need to let any more uneducated rabble in.

America was 85% White when I was born, now it is 60% White, also in the same time frame Blacks were the second largest ethnic group, now they are number three. It seems for some it is ok that whites and blacks are being erased in America, this type of disgusting genocidal racism makes me sick.

Dont worry buddy. You will always be number one in the mentally challenged group!

 

[ronin17]

America has enough people, no need to let any more in. That being said, we sure do not need to let any more uneducated rabble in.

America was 85% White when I was born, now it is 60% White, also in the same time frame Blacks were the second largest ethnic group, now they are number three. It seems for some it is ok that whites and blacks are being erased in America, this type of disgusting genocidal racism makes me sick.

From the moment you were hatched everyone in the penitentiary knew you were extremely "special".

After all, you still get a special parking spot and that cool little blue sign you hang on your rear view mirror!

 

[Michael Scally MD]

n" style="transform: translate3d(0px, 0px, 0px);">U.S. Judge James Robart emerged from relative obscurity on Saturday as the first justice to come under fire from the president since he took office after his temporary order to lift Donald Trump's immigration ban.

In a reaction that went viral on Twitter, Trump called the 69-year-old Robart a "so-called judge" whose "ridiculous" opinion "essentially takes law-enforcement away from our country."

To those who know Robart, who has been on the federal bench in Seattle for more than a decade after his appointment by another Republican, President George W. Bush, the ensuing drama surrounding the move was a far cry from the judge's standard.

"He is relatively apolitical," said Douglas Adkins, a private equity investor and former investment banker who has known Robart since childhood. "He's not a conservative or a liberal. He's a man interested in the law and fairness."

 

[XKawN]

And it absolutely aids in a recruitment tool for the enemy. He campaigned on a Muslim ban not a seven countries that are in the Middle East but a Muslim ban.

Never said that you stated we shouldn't have a vetting process. This is the quote I was referring to.
If someone is willing to take up arms against America or its people because they weren't let in to America I personally wouldn't want them in America

 

[Michael Scally MD]

 

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[Michael Scally MD]

 

[XKawN]

Doesn't it kind of sound like how if the Middle East doesn't sell us oil we go in and overthrow democratically voted governments, murder innocent men, women and children, install dictators who would acquiesce to our will, etc? You play with fire long enough and you will be burned

Not sure how this has anything to do with my statement unless your saying we did the middle east dirty and now we should let angry Muslims in to america.

 

[Docd187123]

Never said that you stated we shouldn't have a vetting process. This is the quote I was referring to.
If someone is willing to take up arms against America or its people because they weren't let in to America I personally wouldn't want them in America

Along the lines of this logic:

If we are willing to take up arms against the Middle East and it's people bc they didn't want to sell us oil on our terms and for our benefit over theirs, would you personally want them to sell us oil?

 

[Docd187123]

Not sure how this has anything to do with my statement unless your saying we did the middle east dirty and now we should let angry Muslims in to america.

When someone does us dirty we strike back. Are other countries not allowed the same leniency or is that solely an American thing?

 

[Michael Scally MD]

The image of President Trump, flanked by Vice President Pence and Defense Secretary James Mattis, signing an executive order that (among other things) excludes Syrian refugees from the United States, is indelible. Three powerful American leaders, targeting and dehumanizing some of the most vulnerable people on Earth. A picture of bullying. A picture of cruelty. A picture of national shame.

It sits in my head beside images of Syrian refugees in Lebanon and Jordan, bewildered by the loss of their old lives, assets depleted, living (in some cases) eight to a room, exploited by human traffickers. Many families feel compelled to put their boys to work and their girls into early, forced marriages. “My home is all broken in Syria,” a girl of 6 told me while coloring a picture of helicopters and bombs. Trump is a champion at punching down, but seldom this far.

This executive order is a security measure that very few actual security professionals would prioritize, given that refugees are some of the most carefully vetted people who enter the country. Meanwhile, the downside of (in effect) targeting foreigners by their religion is immediate and considerable — worrying American Muslims and embarrassing the United States’ Muslim friends and allies in the world. When some radical cleric in, say, Central Asia, says, “The new American president hates Islam,” he does not require a conspiracy theory to support his claim. And all of this may have been done with no security upside at all, given the utter incompetence with which the order was drafted and the likelihood that the courts will prevent its implementation.

 

[XKawN]

Along the lines of this logic:

If we are willing to take up arms against the Middle East and it's people bc they didn't want to sell us oil on our terms and for our benefit over theirs, would you personally want them to sell us oil?

Lol, we could go on all day with this logic and prove eachother to be hypocritical in some fashion.

 

[Giggidy2013]

You guys must be forgetting in 2011 oboma did the same thing from the 7 same countries for 6 months.. no one batted an eye

 

[tenpoundsleft]

Along the lines of this logic:

If we are willing to take up arms against the Middle East and it's people bc they didn't want to sell us oil on our terms and for our benefit over theirs, would you personally want them to sell us oil?

And in which reality did that take place?

Come on, you're too smart to believe in that wild-eyed nonsense?

We didn't even hold on to the Iranian assets FFS - and that was liquid CASH. We never laid claims to any Iraqi wells etc etc. We didn't colonize anything or anyone. Actually, we just went their, and then left (thank you Obama).

In fact we have hundreds of years worth of oil, gas, coal etc energy in the ground right here in the good ol' USA - even if liberals are trying to block any utilization of it, which would make us more dependent on sand people, which would make us more inclined to engage in ME saber rattling... See why liberals are f-ing insane?

 

[MassTurk]

And in which reality did that take place?

Come on, you're too smart to believe in that wild-eyed nonsense?

We didn't even hold on to the Iranian assets FFS - and that was liquid CASH. We never laid claims to any Iraqi wells etc etc. We didn't colonize anything or anyone. Actually, we just went their, and then left (thank you Obama).

In fact we have hundreds of years worth of oil, gas, coal etc energy in the ground right here in the good ol' USA - even if liberals are trying to block any utilization of it, which would make us more dependent on sand people, which would make us more inclined to engage in ME saber rattling... See why liberals are f-ing insane?

All semantics. It is as clear as daylight which direction this country is being taken by Bannon and Mike Pence. What are you people arguing about? Obama wasn't trying to change this countries core values and isolate us from the world. Read Bannon's book before you run your mouth anymore. He's following through step-by-step and what he calls the New World order. Are you ready for the dark history to repeat itself because that's where he's taking us that's his vision

 

[XKawN]

All semantics. It is as clear as daylight which direction this country is being taken by Bannon and Mike Pence. What are you people arguing about? Obama wasn't trying to change this countries core values and isolate us from the world. Read Bannon's book before you run your mouth anymore. He's following through step-by-step and what he calls the New World order. Are you ready for the dark history to repeat itself because that's where he's taking us that's his vision

You Read Bannon's Book?

 

[MassTurk]

You Read Bannon's Book?

Started yesterday. It's astonishing. things I didn't know about the world history from a perspective that is somewhat disturbing. I can't give you a full explanation until I am through. How about you? He is the shadow president!
Do you know anything about his history or political view of the world order? It is remarkable how this man is in White House who has an extremely negative views of the human history !!!!

 

[XKawN]

Started yesterday. It's astonishing. things I didn't know about the world history from a perspective that is somewhat disturbing. I can't give you a full explanation until I am through. How about you? He is the shadow president!
Do you know anything about his history or political view of the world order? It is remarkable how this man is in White House who has an extremely negative views of the human history !!!!

No, but I may just have to. Wait, are you trying to sell bannon's books? Lol.

 

[ronin17]

Never said that you stated we shouldn't have a vetting process. This is the quote I was referring to.
If someone is willing to take up arms against America or its people because they weren't let in to America I personally wouldn't want them in America

So you think all these people mean us harm? What makes you think these people would take up arms against us?

You seem to be missing the point. When we act like pricks without justification it absolutely aids the enemy. We are the good guys remember?

If we had tons of attacks inside the us from muslim refugees it would be different. With the exception of 911 the largest numbers of Americans have been killed by fellow Americans.

Speaking of 911..nearly all the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Funny saudi arabi isnt on the ban.

Ever wonder why? Because it isnt about keeping us safe. Its about fooling people that he is keeping us safe. He wouldn't dare piss of the saudis. Why? $$$$$$$

By the way. Osama bin laden was also saudi. How can you not see this for what it is?? Bullshit pr stunt that will cause more damage than good.

Which sums up our involvement with fighting extremism for the last couple decades.