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Benefits of mega dose HGH

NeedleCheeks

NeedleCheeks

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Alright so I always read about guys on the forums talking about taking 2-4iu etc, and I was always under the impression that mass building effects required larger doses, especially with generic GH. Would 2iu really even be worth the money for more than just a replacement dose? Do any of you guys actually take high doses? Personally I wouldn't bother taking the stuff unless I was dosing around 6iu a day. I understand the price point, that reason is obvious but explain why you take your GH, and your reasoning for the dose you take. Also, if any of you big fellas are taking some big doses (10-15iu) I would be very interested in hearing your experience.
 
4-6 ius gave me better recovery, fat loss, smoother skin, and great sleep. I didn't really notice any music growth. I increased to 8 ius and I started having blood sugar problems that would have required insulin. I'm not saying you can't run mega dose hgh without insulin but it's highly unlikely.
 
Wait so you guys are saying that with large doses of GH insulin is required? I always thought it was just an addition for extra growth, I never knew it was actually necessary. This is really interesting to me, I'd love to learn more. Any GH gurus around?
 
NeedleCheeks said:
Wait so you guys are saying that with large doses of GH insulin is required? I always thought it was just an addition for extra growth, I never knew it was actually necessary. This is really interesting to me, I'd love to learn more. Any GH gurus around?
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It is because one of the most common sides of hGH is hyperglycemia. And ur cells become insulin resistant. I have found that insulin keeps my blood sugar in check and avoids insulin resistance. Plus insulin + hGH + AAS works very well.
 
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Ed Plucker said:
It is because one of the most common sides of hGH is hyperglycemia. And ur cells become insulin resistant. I have found that insulin keeps my blood sugar in check and avoids insulin resistance. Plus insulin + hGH + ASS works very well.
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+ASS?
Yeah, we know AAS... Still a chance to edit...
 
Ed Plucker said:
It is because one of the most common sides of hGH is hyperglycemia. And ur cells become insulin resistant. I have found that insulin keeps my blood sugar in check and avoids insulin resistance. Plus insulin + hGH + ASS works very well.
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HGH without insulin I've been told is like eating a sandwich without any meat.

Currently my HGH dose is therapeutic and anti aging. (4-6ius). I haven't dosed higher long-term because I don't fully understand how to incorporate insulin and I'm afraid actually. I've considered hiring a coach but I haven't gotten that far yet.
 
cbbram said:
HGH without insulin I've been told is like eating a sandwich without any meat.

Currently my HGH dose is therapeutic and anti aging. (4-6ius). I haven't dosed higher long-term because I don't fully understand how to incorporate insulin and I'm afraid actually. I've considered hiring a coach but I haven't gotten that far yet.
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That's a very good analogy bro. Insulin and hGH are synergistic with AAS. hGH won't build much muscle on its own but throw in insulin and its like throwing gasoline on a fire.
 
Ed Plucker said:
That's a very good analogy bro. Insulin and hGH are synergistic with AAS. hGH won't build much muscle on its own but throw in insulin and its like throwing gasoline on a fire.
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I ran pharma grade hgh for a short duration of time and I felt like within that month I noticed results. Humatrope at around 7iu 3.5 when I wake up 3.5 preworkout. My look started to change a bit. I just looked better overall. Fuller, cleaner, leaner, etc. I wish I would've been able to run it like that for 6 months straight.
 
NeedleCheeks said:
I ran pharma grade hgh for a short duration of time and I felt like within that month I noticed results. Humatrope at around 7iu 3.5 when I wake up 3.5 preworkout. My look started to change a bit. I just looked better overall. Fuller, cleaner, leaner, etc. I wish I would've been able to run it like that for 6 months straight.
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Splitting up the dosages throughout the day like that as much as possible is very important to minimize side effects.
 
Currently, I'm taking 4.5iu pharma Serostim and 1/2 vial of Meditrope a day. Now, they "claim" Meditrope is ~15ius/vial, who fucking knows? So, if that's the case, I'm on ~12 or so IU/day. I am just now starting to split my dose into 2.5iu doses as is suggested by L. Rea to stimulate a more constant and evelated IGF-1 level throughout the day. Now, insulin is being used in the am w/ Humulin and post workout with humalog. I am about to incorporate IGF-1 Lr3 into the protocol, at 50mcg's a day. T4 is also being used, 200mcg's daily, split into 2 100mcg's doses.

Supposedly, and anecdotally, this should have a huge 3 way (you like it) synergy. The GH stimulates IGF-1 production (duh), the insulin transports nutrients to the muscles (and fat cells, it seems to be indifferent, so use wisely) and the T4 seems to speed up my metabolism allowing my to really eat as much as I need to, and it seems to combat the lethargy from the GH and the slin pretty well.

Be glad to answer any questions you might have.
 
Ed Plucker said:
That's a very good analogy bro. Insulin and hGH are synergistic with AAS. hGH won't build much muscle on its own but throw in insulin and its like throwing gasoline on a fire.
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Kind of... It's more like throwing fire everywhere and hoping it only burns certain areas... You can still put on fat, quickly, with insulin. I know what you're trying to say here, and you're not "wrong", but it also sends the message the GH and slin is some ridiculous miracle for size. That still belongs to test and nandrolone, if you ask me.
 
The most I've run is Serostim at 9ius ED for about a month and the sides were too bad so I went to 18ius EOD for the next 3 months. Took the entire dose at night before bed and did not use insulin. It definitely screwed with my blood sugar levels. I'll be the first to admit I knew nothing about how to take GH at the time and the internet wasn't what it is today. Information was scarce at best.


It did make a drastic difference in my look quickly but I was in contest prep mode and wasn't training for size. I will say it was the easiest contest prep ever. Zero cardio was done and while my diet was still on point I was able to color outside the lines a bit with no worries.

I won the open heavy weights and overall in two NPC shows (state and regional) within two weeks of each other and qualified nationally that year. Cost me a lot of money though as the kits were still up in the $700 range at that time.
 
Wunderpus said:
Currently, I'm taking 4.5iu pharma Serostim and 1/2 vial of Meditrope a day. Now, they "claim" Meditrope is ~15ius/vial, who fucking knows? So, if that's the case, I'm on ~12 or so IU/day. I am just now starting to split my dose into 2.5iu doses as is suggested by L. Rea to stimulate a more constant and evelated IGF-1 level throughout the day. Now, insulin is being used in the am w/ Humulin and post workout with humalog. I am about to incorporate IGF-1 Lr3 into the protocol, at 50mcg's a day. T4 is also being used, 200mcg's daily, split into 2 100mcg's doses.

Supposedly, and anecdotally, this should have a huge 3 way (you like it) synergy. The GH stimulates IGF-1 production (duh), the insulin transports nutrients to the muscles (and fat cells, it seems to be indifferent, so use wisely) and the T4 seems to speed up my metabolism allowing my to really eat as much as I need to, and it seems to combat the lethargy from the GH and the slin pretty well.

Be glad to answer any questions you might have.
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In for the before and after pics. It would be awesome to see the changes from your all out cycle.
 
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