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[BigD18]

Hey dudes

I'm new to this and I've decided to cross over to the dark side. I've lifted on and off over the years. This time around I've been lifting for over a year 4-5 days a week; sometimes I throw in a 7-8 dayer because I get bored and like to push myself harder. I've got tons of gains. I want to take it to the next level. I ordered sustanon 2x10ml of sust 350mg/ml. I'm thinking of taking 350 for the first 2 weeks and then moving up to 700 for the rest of the 8 weeks. I want to use 23g 1 1/2" needles in the glute. I don't really know where to find needles. Are they illegal to buy online as gear is? Is there any local places to purchase them from. I'm also wondering where to get PCT (sorry if that's considered looking for sources, im new). I was also considering getting a labMax or something of that nature to test my shit to see what's really in it. I'm thinking of getting bloodwork done before cycle, after cycle, and then after PCT. Plz tell me what you guys think of all my information for my first cycle.

Big D

 

[dreamkiller]

Well first a sust cycle is not a good cycle , unless you really know what your doing . Try test e or cyp and second if your gonna cycle have all pct in and you didnt even mention an AI to block your bitch tits when they come . Try going to the underground section and read a few houndred thousands pages of stuff get us to it . MESO DOESNT SPOON FEED . And its not a source board . So 1 read 2 read 3 read and right before you cycle read it all again this is serious shit with real problems that come with it , get a better understanding .

 

[BigD18]

Well first a sust cycle is not a good cycle , unless you really know what your doing . Try test e or cyp and second if your gonna cycle have all pct in and you didnt even mention an AI to block your bitch tits when they come . Try going to the underground section and read a few houndred thousands pages of stuff get us to it . MESO DOESNT SPOON FEED . And its not a source board . So 1 read 2 read 3 read and right before you cycle read it all again this is serious shit with real problems that come with it , get a better understanding .

Thanks for the response dreamkiller. Yeah I did fail to mention specific PCT stuff. I have done research on it. I've heard AI and lectro helps with gyno. I read about HCG; taking it during cycle to keep nuts from shrinking. Was going to get some nolva and clomid for PCT and start it a few weeks after the cycle. What do you think about sust? You said it's not a good cycle and I was wondering if you could go into better detail on that. I've heard that Test E and Sust were like the best test; but also that everyone is different and reacts differntly to stuff, so I figured I'd better just try something out.

D

 

[ickyrica]

500 mg of test c/e weekly for 16 wks is my first cycle. The results have been nothing less than stellar.

I think an easy first cycle like that with proper diet and training will yield the quality results you are looking for. I am pontificating what I've read on here to be honest with you but it worked very well for me.

Good luck!

 

[Milk Man]

Sust is fine, you just pin it more often than cyp or enan to utilize the short esters. Being that you already have it use it up, test is test at the end of the day.

 

[oiboi]

My first cycle consisted of test e 500mg per week and tbol
You definitely need to read up a little more on PCT and dosages
Starting at 350 per week then 700 is a big jump it can mess withat your receptors for future cycles
I'm new here but I can help defenetly help u out pm me

 

[ickyrica]

Just read up on sust250. 4 different testosterone types in it. It seems kind of neat that it hits quickly and over a long range of time. I am learning something new everyday lol. Fuck yeah.

 

[Michael7]

Welcome pal

 

[oiboi]

Just read up on sust250. 4 different testosterone types in it. It seems kind of neat that it hits quickly and over a long range of time. I am learning something new everyday lol. Fuck yeah.

I believe it's 3 different esters quick acting mid and long
I'm about to run some in a few weeks defenetly will post on it

 

[dreamkiller]

Yea but surley test e at 500 _700 wpuld be fine more stable good AI and pct run it lol

 

[Big_paul]

Start at 700mg, 500 would be plenty since it is your first cycle, from the start. All you will do by raising to dose after 2 weeks, is to delay getting blood levels up to a optimum level a couple extra weeks.

 

[DedLift]

One of the issues I see with sust on your first run is it has a tendency to cause pip for most people and since you will be injecting into virgin muscles, this problem will only be amplified. Test c or e is always a good choice for a first go because there is less pinning and even with good gear, you'll probably have some pain for days after injecting until your muscles and technique are broke in a bit. Pins are not illegal to purchase in the states so try getpinz(I use them) or use the search function because others have asked this before. Do some research beforehand and never start a cycle without an ai such as adex. You may be gyno prone, you may not but better to have and not need. Chances are you'll need something at 700/wk. letro is way too strong for this instance.

 

[BigD18]

Thanks for all the replies guys. I want to do this the right way and be as safe as possible.

 

[BigD18]

One of the issues I see with sust on your first run is it has a tendency to cause pip for most people and since you will be injecting into virgin muscles, this problem will only be amplified. Test c or e is always a good choice for a first go because there is less pinning and even with good gear, you'll probably have some pain for days after injecting until your muscles and technique are broke in a bit. Pins are not illegal to purchase in the states so try getpinz(I use them) or use the search function because others have asked this before. Do some research beforehand and never start a cycle without an ai such as adex. You may be gyno prone, you may not but better to have and not need. Chances are you'll need something at 700/wk. letro is way too strong for this instance.

When exactly should I use an AI?

 

[Dude2k]

Hey dudes

I'm new to this and I've decided to cross over to the dark side. I've lifted on and off over the years. This time around I've been lifting for over a year 4-5 days a week; sometimes I throw in a 7-8 dayer because I get bored and like to push myself harder. I've got tons of gains. I want to take it to the next level. I ordered sustanon 2x10ml of sust 350mg/ml. I'm thinking of taking 350 for the first 2 weeks and then moving up to 700 for the rest of the 8 weeks. I want to use 23g 1 1/2" needles in the glute. I don't really know where to find needles. Are they illegal to buy online as gear is? Is there any local places to purchase them from. I'm also wondering where to get PCT (sorry if that's considered looking for sources, im new). I was also considering getting a labMax or something of that nature to test my shit to see what's really in it. I'm thinking of getting bloodwork done before cycle, after cycle, and then after PCT. Plz tell me what you guys think of all my information for my first cycle.

Big D

Hey question I did a shot that would be considered a lot and I have been feeling uptight and hot, is there anything I can take orally or inject that can help me I am very nervous about how I am feeling.

 

[BigD18]

Hey forum, I figured I'd come back and update this a little bit so that it may help someone in the future. I ended my 12 week cycle a week ago. I got a lot of acne on my shoulders. I was getting hard-ons all day long. I felt a little bit better and more confident. My nuts shrank. My lifts all went up dramatically, i.e. bench went from 245 for 10 reps to 245 for 18 reps. All my other lifts I do in the gym went up. I got more vascular even while eating a fairly shitty diet. Most of the time when I injected... it hurt for a couple of days afterward (glutes). My metabolism felt higher. I could eat bad things and not notice it like usual. My body was always running hotter than usual, and I felt more sweaty. I'm getting ready to start my pct soon.

 

[Throwback]

When exactly should I use an AI?

Really and I dont mean this to sound like I am picking on you.
The questions you are asking are good solid things you need to know BUT...the questions indicate that you are know where near ready to cycle aas. Please do yourself a huge favor and spend at least 6 months or more researching learning asking more questions and educating yourself about the use of aas. These drugs are strong harsh and once injected can change the way your body functions for life.
Right now take a deep breath kick back get your diet program and sleep dialed in then look back into it in 6 months to a year.

 

[Throwback]

Hey forum, I figured I'd come back and update this a little bit so that it may help someone in the future. I ended my 12 week cycle a week ago. I got a lot of acne on my shoulders. I was getting hard-ons all day long. I felt a little bit better and more confident. My nuts shrank. My lifts all went up dramatically, i.e. bench went from 245 for 10 reps to 245 for 18 reps. All my other lifts I do in the gym went up. I got more vascular even while eating a fairly shitty diet. Most of the time when I injected... it hurt for a couple of days afterward (glutes). My metabolism felt higher. I could eat bad things and not notice it like usual. My body was always running hotter than usual, and I felt more sweaty. I'm getting ready to start my pct soon.

I dont believe it.....thats not what happens on a test cycle.

 

[BigD18]

I dont believe it.....thats not what happens on a test cycle.

Well maybe I was taking more than test and didn't know it. But that's all I ordered. I do feel like I jumped into it without knowing enough. I was planning on using an AI if I started to notice gyno or weirdness in my nipples which never happened so I didn't use it during the cycle. The acne I got was pretty intense. I'm not lying about anything I've said. My last lift on bench I did 275 for 12 reps and was only doing it for like 5 reps before the cycle. I was taking about 500mg/week; 250mg/pin (monday, thurs). I'm planning on starting my PCT at 2 1/2-3 weeks after my last injection. I've read different things about when to start, some say 2 weeks, some say 3. I'm going to use clomid 100/50/50/50, nolva 40/20/20/20. This will be the last time I use anything for a long time. I got some great gains while doing this cycle, but I also had great gains without it. I'm going to go full natty after this. I'm not even going to take creatine or pre-workout (maybe protein, I haven't decided). That sucks that you think I'm not telling the truth, I don't know what to tell you. I appriciate all the help I've gotten from everyone. Best of luck to you all.

 

[Throwback]

Well its just that the things you experienced on cycle do not jive with what happens with test....what kind of gains did you get? You say your vascularity increased....do you have a current pic cuz without an ai at 500mg per week you wont have any vascularity cuz you will have retained fluid and with a sketchy diet added fat.
How about a before cycle and after cycle pic?
I think since you are claiming success we would all like to see it.
If Im wrong I will fall on my sword and create a "boy was i wrong thread"...seriously.