pro hormone question

[DedLift]

Actually Id reckon most of your post was quite ignorant. A lot of UK suppliers (which is where all the ph's are coming from now) are supplying perfectly legit and reviewed safe ph's made the EXACT same way as they always have been. No one is being a test subject as pretty much all of these compounds have been tried and true. predatornutrit, jwsupps, etc

Spoken like a true rep

 

[jason genova]

If you cant find the gear, youre probably better off not using it.

sickening name

 

[DedLift]

Actually Id reckon most of your post was quite ignorant. A lot of UK suppliers (which is where all the ph's are coming from now) are supplying perfectly legit and reviewed safe ph's made the EXACT same way as they always have been. No one is being a test subject as pretty much all of these compounds have been tried and true. predatornutrit, jwsupps, etc

Oh, and "legit and safe ph's"?!? Didn't realize there was such a thing

 

[Prairie Boy]

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haha

 

[Dr JIM]

no I was correct in what I said. DienDIONE is a prohormone. dienolone is the parent. I also said designers before I mentioned methylsten.

And I hope you don't believe that's the point bc many currently listed "designer AAS" were originally designated as "pro-hormones" by supplement manufacturers.

However once these substances metabolic effects were closely scrutinized by those capable of performing in-vitro and in-vivo testing it became clear there was nothing "pro-hormone" about these compounds, as they exhibited anabolic activity de-novo.

But does any of that really matter NOPE, bc much like "andro", being one of the few legitimate "pro-hormones", once anabolic activity is demonstrated that substance will then become listed as a SCHEDULE III drug!

So if the choice is to use either a "prohormone supplement" with unknown efficacy and toxicity or an established AAS, excluding the legal ramifications, well that's a NO BRAINER, IMO!

 

[elitephysiques]

Spoken like a true rep

lol even more ignorance. Everything I said is true and you made no valid points at all to prove me wrong. You're an idiot man. Read up. All you had to come back with is I sound likea rep? Rep for what? I made no mention of any exact product or website. You can continue thinking in your little bubble but many orals have been very successful. Sure some powerful ones are stressful but with appropriate care for your body while on (including personal experience) and there are zero problems with faster gains.

 

[T_verde77]

lol even more ignorance. Everything I said is true and you made no valid points at all to prove me wrong. You're an idiot man. Read up. All you had to come back with is I sound likea rep? Rep for what? I made no mention of any exact product or website. You can continue thinking in your little bubble but many orals have been very successful. Sure some powerful ones are stressful but with appropriate care for your body while on (including personal experience) and there are zero problems with faster gains.

I got an idea for u. Why don't u do a pro hormone cycle. Get blood work before during and after than come back and let us know how it went with your "zero problems"

Faster gains lol. if u call looking like a ballon gains

 

[Notits]

lol even more ignorance. Everything I said is true and you made no valid points at all to prove me wrong. You're an idiot man. Read up. All you had to come back with is I sound likea rep? Rep for what? I made no mention of any exact product or website. You can continue thinking in your little bubble but many orals have been very successful. Sure some powerful ones are stressful but with appropriate care for your body while on (including personal experience) and there are zero problems with faster gains.

Zero problems? Faster gains? Smoke another one, who the fuck you think your talking to?

 

[elitephysiques]

Zero problems? Faster gains? Smoke another one, who the fuck you think your talking to?

simply google it. Ph's give faster gains in shorter amounts of time. Once again, before you type that reply, google the facts. Yes they are more harsh on your body but with proper cycle support. some tudca and good pct you are perfectly fine afterwards. Test works fine too. idgaf who im talking to. Ph's are no different than dbol or any other oral and they are well known to work just fine

 

[Notits]

simply google it. Ph's give faster gains in shorter amounts of time. Once again, before you type that reply, google the facts. Yes they are more harsh on your body but with proper cycle support. some tudca and good pct you are perfectly fine afterwards. Test works fine too. idgaf who im talking to. Ph's are no different than dbol or any other oral and they are well known to work just fine

Google...
Really?

 

[elitephysiques]

Google...
Really?

...what else would you like me to point you to, an encyclopedia? the library? What are wrong with studies posted on google? How is your advice any more reputable with your logic than anything else on the internet?

 

[DedLift]

lol even more ignorance. Everything I said is true and you made no valid points at all to prove me wrong. You're an idiot man. Read up. All you had to come back with is I sound likea rep? Rep for what? I made no mention of any exact product or website. You can continue thinking in your little bubble but many orals have been very successful. Sure some powerful ones are stressful but with appropriate care for your body while on (including personal experience) and there are zero problems with faster gains.

Wow. Just wow. No, I'm not going to state my case or cite references for you because I don't believe you're intelligent enough to carry on a conversation with. You've stated my ignorance when near as I can tell you are partially retarded. Take your prohormones all day long buddy and I'll continue to take the real thing. I won't be having any more back and forth with you because you're truly truly special

 

[DedLift]

Oh one last thing @elitephysiques go back and 're read Dr Jim's response to this thread to see what an educated and intelligent response looks like

 

[lightspan]

PH are utter shite. Chemists played around to get outside the chemical space of schedule III AAS, and in the process made compounds ranging from significantly toxic to liver destroying. I ran epistane, one of the ostensibly mildest and most tolerable PH. Purchased from a reputable company (as reputable as PH companies were). After two weeks I felt like dogshit. After three weeks I literally was pissing brown and bruising by just brushing against shit. Toxic as fuck.

PH are now just as illegal as AAS in the US. The only reason for using them was to avoid the legal ramifications of AAS. Since they are now illegal, only a total dumbfuck would purchase them now (from, e.g., the U.K.).

 

[Triton_]

Prohormones suck. You can find gear domestically which has very little risk. The entire idea of using prohormones as the building blocks of the real thing, which is readily available, makes no sense.

There is always a risk. If you are smart, there is very little risk, but if you can't accept risk, you are better off using prohormones. They will not do anything for you though. You just won't be getting in over your head. That's good for everyone.

This is horrible information

 

[Triton_]

PH are utter shite. Chemists played around to get outside the chemical space of schedule III AAS, and in the process made compounds ranging from significantly toxic to liver destroying. I ran epistane, one of the ostensibly mildest and most tolerable PH. Purchased from a reputable company (as reputable as PH companies were). After two weeks I felt like dogshit. After three weeks I literally was pissing brown and bruising by just brushing against shit. Toxic as fuck.

PH are now just as illegal as AAS in the US. The only reason for using them was to avoid the legal ramifications of AAS. Since they are now illegal, only a total dumbfuck would purchase them now (from, e.g., the U.K.).

I've had a lot better results on some PHs with less sides and more gains than I have with some of my AAS runs... If you're trying to compare oral PHs to IM AAS then yeah their is a huge difference, but if you don't know much about PHs don't assume they are all garbage because of your own ignorance

 

[lightspan]

I've had a lot better results on some PHs with less sides and more gains than I have with some of my AAS runs... If you're trying to compare oral PHs to IM AAS then yeah their is a huge difference, but if you don't know much about PHs don't assume they are all garbage because of your own ignorance

Did you miss the part where I said I ran one? Shut your cum dumpster fuck boy. Just because you had bunk AAS and are too fucking dumb to know better doesn't mean your magic fairy dust PHs are better. Most PHs are metabolic precursors of AAS. If you can explain how something that has to be enzymatically processed to yield the active parent compound is more effective than the parent compound itself, you deserve a Nobel.

Go run the fucking things. I could give a fuck. I'll stick to AAS.

 

[Triton_]

Did you miss the part where I said I ran one? Shut your cum dumpster fuck boy. Just because you had bunk AAS and are too fucking dumb to know better doesn't mean your magic fairy dust PHs are better. Most PHs are metabolic precursors of AAS. If you can explain how something that has to be enzymatically processed to yield the active parent compound is more effective than the parent compound itself, you deserve a Nobel.

Go run the fucking things. I could give a fuck. I'll stick to AAS.

Reduce your tren fuck boy. Run 1 that's amazing and great... WOW 1? That's insane.

I'll double team you and your mom while my dick is hard on all the PHs

 

[DedLift]

I'm telling you, these space cadets think they're talking to guys who don't spend 1/3 of our time researching aas. That's right aas, pct, all the acronyms. Prohormones aren't supposed to be taken for more than 4 weeks at a time because the liver can only take so much of a beating. So tell me again genius about the 10 pounds you gained in that month running ph's and I'll tell you about the 30 I gain running test for 12 months

 

[elitephysiques]

I'm telling you, these space cadets think they're talking to guys who don't spend 1/3 of our time researching aas. That's right aas, pct, all the acronyms. Prohormones aren't supposed to be taken for more than 4 weeks at a time because the liver can only take so much of a beating. So tell me again genius about the 10 pounds you gained in that month running ph's and I'll tell you about the 30 I gain running test for 12 months

PROHORMONES ARE STEROIDS YOU IDIOT. you keep saying they arent "the real thing" and that just proves your intelligence level.

there is literally no difference between the 2 besides potency and sides!!! orals are more harsh on the liver we all knew this. The fact is that prohormones are legitimate steroids and can put on 15 pounds of mostly lean mass in 1 month. Test works and PHs also work. Some PHS you run for 8 weeks. Some for 4. Why are u so fucking ignorant?