Whats your thought on this 42g protein shot

[NoScopeKen]

I for one think protein supplements to be an evil you have to deal with. Use real food and supplement as a last resort.

I don't have anymore than 2 shakes normally, sometimes 3. Although my protein intake is 400g.

 

[Janoy crevesa]

I don't have anymore than 2 shakes normally, sometimes 3. Although my protein intake is 400g.

Why 400?

 

[NoScopeKen]

Why 400?

Because you can synthesise more protein on gear.

 

[Janoy crevesa]

Because you can synthesise more protein on gear.

not that much. Majority of that protein is getting converted to glucose, but hey, if you like eating that much then go ahead. Just don't feel like you need to.

 

[NoScopeKen]

not that much. Majority of that protein is getting converted to glucose, but hey, if you like eating that much then go ahead. Just don't feel like you need to.

Well when running over a gram of gear I feel like you need to. I've done a high carb, lowish fat and protein diet in the past and just looked Puffy, majority of lbs gained was water weight. Right now I'm 240lb and look the best I ever have at my size.

 

[Janoy crevesa]

Well when running over a gram of gear I feel like you need to. I've done a high carb, lowish fat and protein diet in the past and just looked Puffy, majority of lbs gained was water weight. Right now I'm 240lb and look the best I ever have at my size.

I will admit that dropping carbs can give you a dry look. Low fat is always good when on gear cuz you don't need it for test production.

 

[NoScopeKen]

I will admit that dropping carbs can give you a dry look. Low fat is always good when on gear cuz you don't need it for test production.

Yeah deffo. if you're natural then the best way to go would be a higher fat and carb diet. My carbs now aren't exactly low I still get around 500g.

 

[Leancuisine]

I used to work at a nutrition store and these clear no carb liquids are a must for gastric bypass patients 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after surgery.
They taste gnarly. Would not recommend them for anything othwr than gastric bypass. The increased protein consumption and zero carbs helps shrink their livers and makes surgery easier.

 

[Leancuisine]

I will admit that dropping carbs can give you a dry look. Low fat is always good when on gear cuz you don't need it for test production.

Fats are for much more than hormones. Eye health, memory, joint lubrication.... not to mention all your cells are wrapped in 2 layers of fat.
The importance of fat is far overlooked in nutrition, IMO.

 

[Leancuisine]

It's also worth noting that these manufactures change formulas every few months or so, whether to ride trends or avoid these analytical tests. Bodyfortress changed isolate products three times in six months, and I'll be damned if I drink this new one that's all loaded with soy.

The cheapo BF whey concentrate has 18g out of 20g claimed. Does what it's supposed to do, for cheaper (and closer to advertised) than most everything else. Works for me and my budget.

And as for the OP: I wouldn't fuck with any of those pre mixed drinks, except in a pinch. Especially not one loaded with collagen.

Protein companies have to switch things up every few months it seems not to necessarily be shady and avoid tests, but because whey is becoming harder and harder for companies to purchase in bulk.
China bought over 60% of the world's whey supply for their baby formula back in early 2012.
Gatorade purchased another quarter of the world's whey, which really messed up the market.
Farmers produce too much cheese and extract the whey. Everyone buys up the whey, no one buys up the cheese, so farmers stopped producing so much cheese.

 

[NoScopeKen]

Fats are for much more than hormones. Eye health, memory, joint lubrication.... not to mention all your cells are wrapped in 2 layers of fat.
The importance of fat is far overlooked in nutrition, IMO.

True. My current bulking macros are 400p 150f 500c. I think that's a good balance especially on gear.

 

[Leancuisine]

True. My current bulking macros are 400p 150f 500c. I think that's a good balance especially on gear.

I would say so. You know your body best my man! Stick with what you know works best.

 

[Janoy crevesa]

Fats are for much more than hormones. Eye health, memory, joint lubrication.... not to mention all your cells are wrapped in 2 layers of fat.
The importance of fat is far overlooked in nutrition, IMO.

I actually wasn't fully aware of that. Thanks. Is it wrong to assume that my body has fat so if the damn thing wants fat it can use its own? I do take my 2 daily fish oils tho.

 

[Leancuisine]

I actually wasn't fully aware of that. Thanks. Is it wrong to assume that my body has fat so if the damn thing wants fat it can use its own? I do take my 2 daily fish oils tho.

Unfortunately if you feed your body carbs, it uses that as its fuel source instead of your body fat.
I wish the body worked like that!
As far as fish oil goes..... those doses are different. 6grams is what you want for your EPA and DHA benefits of memory. 8-12 is optimal, but anything over 4 gets pretty expensive in my opinion. Just eat my man!
You know your body better than anyone. Play around with your diet and find what you like and FEEL the best off.

 

[Janoy crevesa]

Unfortunately if you feed your body carbs, it uses that as its fuel source instead of your body fat.
I wish the body worked like that!
As far as fish oil goes..... those doses are different. 6grams is what you want for your EPA and DHA benefits of memory. 8-12 is optimal, but anything over 4 gets pretty expensive in my opinion. Just eat my man!
You know your body better than anyone. Play around with your diet and find what you like and FEEL the best off.

yeah. I get kinda agitated when people try to claim carbs make them fat. its like, no either your calories are too high, or youre bloating from eating too much and that goes back to the calories or wet gear. Not really common for the body to convert carbs to fat. It just stores the dietary fat.

 

[Leancuisine]

Yeah idk once your livers and muscles glycogen is all stocked up then it's shuttled off as fat.

But I hear you. People eat food that TASTES good not food that IS good. I don't eat for a diet, I like to eat for nutrition.
I can eat 400 calories of chicken and Brocolli and be full for hours.... I can eat 2000 calories of golden donut and be hungry when again when I wake out the front door.

 

[Janoy crevesa]

Yeah idk once your livers and muscles glycogen is all stocked up then it's shuttled off as fat.

But I hear you. People eat food that TASTES good not food that IS good. I don't eat for a diet, I like to eat for nutrition.
I can eat 400 calories of chicken and Brocolli and be full for hours.... I can eat 2000 calories of golden donut and be hungry when again when I wake out the front door.

and the only way those are going to be full is if youre not in a deficit. No need for all these ultra low carb diets unless its just for appetite. completely agree with ya.

 

[Leancuisine]

I mean there have been legit articles written about this doctor who lost massive amounts of weight eating twinkies and mcdonalds. Yeah sure he lost weight because he watched his calories, but A.) That requires a lot of willpower that if overweight people possessed in the first place, they wouldn't be overweight. And B.) He sure wasn't healthy at all on the inside. Horrible cholesterol and blood pressure. No muscle mass. Just pure yuck.

 

[c_natty]

this post ventured a little off topic, but i tried the watermelon at ralphs...probably the grossest shit ive ever ingested

 

[Leancuisine]

this post ventured a little off topic, but i tried the watermelon at ralphs...probably the grossest shit ive ever ingested

I warned ya! My exact words "they taste pretty gnarly"

Live and learn

Oh and at first I thought your name said c_nasty and I was gonna make a.joke about it not being the grossest thing you've consumed. Could been a punch line knockout!