Early morning training and bulking

Learning2getbig

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Trying to add some weight and wondering if any of you guys have any suggestions about eating before the gym. I find if I don't do my training early morning, I never really get "going" throughout the day. But for past few years, I go just on a shake only. Will this hinder my growth, or should I just try and get in some eggs, oatmeal, or something more?? I do eat post workout now, but I've been in weight loss mode for these past few years, I'm not sure if I need a new routine to grow?? Any advice from any "big guys" that workout mornings would be great! Thanks!
 
As long as you hit your total calorie and macro goals for the day and have the required intensity for training doesn't matter when you eat what. I am not a "big guy" though so take it for what it is.
 
Trying to add some weight and wondering if any of you guys have any suggestions about eating before the gym. I find if I don't do my training early morning, I never really get "going" throughout the day. But for past few years, I go just on a shake only. Will this hinder my growth, or should I just try and get in some eggs, oatmeal, or something more?? I do eat post workout now, but I've been in weight loss mode for these past few years, I'm not sure if I need a new routine to grow?? Any advice from any "big guys" that workout mornings would be great! Thanks!

You can get away with this but IMO its not ideal for growth.

If I were you I would keep the shake and add in oatmeal or some other carbs prior to training. Then upon completion I would eat a bunch of eggs for more protein and calories. Keep eating throughout the day, pack in the calories.

I really detest early morning workouts...I almost always start mind at 5:30 or later cause performance is much better for me. That's just me though, wish I could do the early sessions.
 
You can get away with this but IMO its not ideal for growth.

If I were you I would keep the shake and add in oatmeal or some other carbs prior to training. Then upon completion I would eat a bunch of eggs for more protein and calories. Keep eating throughout the day, pack in the calories.

I really detest early morning workouts...I almost always start mind at 5:30 or later cause performance is much better for me. That's just me though, wish I could do the early sessions.
Thanks! That's what I'm going to do. What's your thoughts on eggs, just go with the whites or the entire egg? Reason I ask is because I'm reading about cholesterol issues when running gear. I'm a big guy as it is, many years of eating good, not healthy, good!!! Lol! I've recently been in good shape but my diets been like a god damn rabbit with lots of chicken, so I'm glad to be able to eating some calories, just still tryna keep it clean!
 
Thanks! That's what I'm going to do. What's your thoughts on eggs, just go with the whites or the entire egg? Reason I ask is because I'm reading about cholesterol issues when running gear. I'm a big guy as it is, many years of eating good, not healthy, good!!! Lol! I've recently been in good shape but my diets been like a god damn rabbit with lots of chicken, so I'm glad to be able to eating some calories, just still tryna keep it clean!

I am probably not the person to comment on eggs and cholesterol actually! I'd be curious to hear @Dr JIM comment the whole egg vs egg white debate.

Again, I'll tell you what I do. If you want to get big, eat big. I eat 6 or 7 whole eggs every morning and about 4 egg whites I don't measure the whites just fill out the pan - I add cheese or peppers sometimes for more calories. I eat Greek yogurt in the morning also, mostly for the probiotic benefits - about a cup. Oatmeal some mornings, not religious with that. I also consume a shake immediately upon waking that's around 70 grams of protein. Some fruit I try to get in as well first thing, dried fruit with nuts is what I'm doing now. That'll change when the fresh fruit is back at the orchards. A big PB&J as well when I'm really training hard. This is all consumed between 6-10:30 AM. Overall, I keep it quite clean though.

Anyways, that's what I do to grow and I do grow from this kind of diet. Again, as far as cholesterol, I don't give it much thought. Calories is more important to me, cholesterol doesn't concern me at this time in my life. Someday I'm sure it will.
 
Since the majority of those with significant hypercholesterolemia have a genetic disorder of sorts, ones dietary intake has only a minimal impact for MOST FOLK!

That's NOT to suggest eating a dozen eggs daily is a good idea, but that MODERATION should be the Modus Operandi .

One should also note the egg yolk is primarily saturated fat (60/40), and fat is twice the amount of calories compared to all other food stuffs.

The egg white is primarily protein as "egg albumen" which is an excellent source of protein
 
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I usually like to have a solid meal myself before I hit the gym, but if you like shakes, I personally have been doing shaking lately, just toss some oats into the shake. I've been making them where I just toss a cup of raw oats, a scoop of protein powder, a cup of assorted fruit, a couple spoonfuls of peanut butter and just blend it up with however much water it takes to get to the consistency you like. It is surprisingly filling and will usually keep me going for a few hours, and they taste pretty damn good too.
 
A protein shake with water isn't a protein shake!! Milk all the way. ;)

That seems to be the general consensus haha. For some reason I just don't care for milk anymore, I'm not a picky eater by any means buy milk just doesn't do it for me lol
 
@Eman I just checked your intro, and at the stats you posted then is about what's at now. I'm 6'0" 223 lbs at about 15-17% bf. I'm curious too know how much size have you put on since November eating those calories??? Also, did you start out heavy and get into shape like myself, or did you start small and straight grow??
 
@Eman I just checked your intro, and at the stats you posted then is about what's at now. I'm 6'0" 223 lbs at about 15-17% bf. I'm curious too know how much size have you put on since November eating those calories??? Also, did you start out heavy and get into shape like myself, or did you start small and straight grow??

Closing in on 240. I was coming off a cut when I first joined up. The goal now is just to be the biggest guy in the room with abs.
 
Closing in on 240. I was coming off a cut when I first joined up. The goal now is just to be the biggest guy in the room with abs.
I'm with ya bro, we're headed in the same direction!! That's my thoughts exactly. Just wish I was this driven at 26 instead of waiting until I'm 36, but age ain't no thang! Keep up the good work!
 
I made my living as a personal trainer for several years, and I was always at the gym early to train clients who wanted to workout before starting their workday. What I noticed after a while was that those people who consumed a moderate breakfast and allowed reasonable time for digestion before they trained had better workouts than those people who reported that they ate nothing. "Better workouts" meaning that they warmed up faster, exerted themselves harder, and made faster progress towards their goals.

Also, I began to find that I could tell the difference between when one particular client, who ate breakfast only sporadically, ate his breakfast and when he skipped; I even had him record his meals on paper, without telling me when he ate a breakfast and when he didn't, while I recorded his rep ranges and poundages (without telling him I was doing so). After a few months I compared the two log sheets and found that they showed better performance on his part when he ate breakfast. He ate clean.

On the other hand, I had clients who stuffed themselves with Denny's Grand Slams and stuff of that ilk right before showing up for training. These people generally warmed up very slowly and performed poorly right up until the end of their workouts, when they barely started to show signs of life.

So based on that experience, and my own BB experience, I'd say that what you do before a workout can best be determined by keeping a detailed log, including meal times and quantities, along with a notation for your energy level and the quality of your workout. Just give your workout something like a five star rating system. If you eat a plate of Aunt Jemima pancakes before reporting for gym duty and you have a two star workout, whereas you enjoy four or five stars with whole grains and Greek yogurt, then your better option is clear.

As far as gains go, whether or not you add more muscle mass with a pre workout shake (assuming it's a quality shake) or a pre workout meal can be hard to determine, except in the long term, and with all other variables held constant. I've lifted with some serious guys with high quality physiques and I've never known anyone who made an effort to determine such a thing one way or the other.

However, it's my opinion that you don't have to determine such a thing, because what's important is keeping track of the quality of your workouts. The rationale is that, in the long term, your gains will be more significant if what you do pre-workout is predicated on your performance in the gym, under the barbell. Motivation and enthusiasm will be higher if you can consistently look forward to a great session.
 
Trying to add some weight and wondering if any of you guys have any suggestions about eating before the gym. I find if I don't do my training early morning, I never really get "going" throughout the day. But for past few years, I go just on a shake only. Will this hinder my growth, or should I just try and get in some eggs, oatmeal, or something more?? I do eat post workout now, but I've been in weight loss mode for these past few years, I'm not sure if I need a new routine to grow?? Any advice from any "big guys" that workout mornings would be great! Thanks!

I train at 6am:

up at 5, 2 slices of wholemeal toast, 50g whey, 250ml milk, medium banana in a shake.

training at 6 with an intra workout drink (HBCD - 50G)

pwo (at work) 50g whey, 250ml milk banana.

thats 1200cals
 
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