More or less sedentary all day... haha.
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Hmm, well that's a game changer for sure.
Yep, it's more or less an office job all day then about an hour and a half of weight training at night. I really don't have time to do morning cardio, or else I would... With that, cardio is limited to about 2x a week.
Meal frequency is dependent upon the individual, their personal preferences, what fits Into their lifestyle, what allows hem to perform at their best in the gym. IIFYM/DCA in no way, shape, or form attempts to dictate meal frequency. That's up to the end user. They've done studies though on ppl who fast and Muslims during Ramadan. No significant differences in subjective feeling or body composition once ppl were accumstomed to the diet except for some slight cognitive differences in those who fast for extremely long time periods.
Some ppl are actually the opposite. They are insatiable with more frequent but smaller meals. THey feel more satiated on fewer meals believe it or not. Some are he opposite. Some don't care either way. Again, it's up to personal preference and what allows you the best performance in the gym and most consistency.
In RED is what I believe to be the most important part of it all. Results, period. Whatever works, works. But, I tend to be in the camp of "You can always do/be better!"
Yes the feeling is important no denying that. You need to feel good to perform good. If you enjoy what you eat no need to change anything. You're not required to add cookies and chips to your diet just bc you follow DCA/IIFYM. You get to pick the foods. Although, "dirtying" up your diet could make it easier to hit calorie goals without feeling as full all the time. It's what you prefer.
Of you're on slin then nutrient timing matters a whole lot, even if it's just so you stay alive lol. I don't argue nutrient timing doesn't matter bc it does but once again it's personal preference. You eat at the times you want to or are able to and that maximizes your gym performance. You train better fasted? Go for you, your progress won't suffer. You train better eating 1-2hrs before lifting? Go for it. You have some ahit to do after he gym and can't eat till 6hrs later? Don't give yourself an anxiety attack you're missing out on gains bc protein synthesis is elevated for about 24hrs following exercise not some magical 30min window bullshit. So yea nutrient timing is important to a degree but it's not universal across the board so that you can say one specific schedule of eating is best for everyone. Far from it. I can train fasted if I like to but simply prefer eating right before. I sometimes have a shake after the gym sometimes I'll wait several hours to have anything. No differences in the long run that are quantifiable.
Digestibility is important. If something you're allergic to or have trouble digesting and makes you feel like shit, don't eat it. Plain and simple. But anything you put in your stomach protein wise will be almost completely digested and absorbed and utilized. Your organic free range skinless fat free chicken breast will not build better muscle than my 5guys greasy bacon. Burger or the other guy's whey shake. 9 times out of 10 it's bc the guys doing only shakes miss out on the rest of the calories that animal meat has from fat. They don't make up he missing calories and end up eating fewer calories in total.Think about it, whey is a milk based protein. Milk comes from cows which is animal based and a complete source of protein.....
Congrats on sticking to your macro needs. Regardless of what you eat, if you meet those needs you will see progress. Period.
You could for sure but at what expense? Each person must do a cost benefit analysis and make their own decision based on how much it's worth it to them. If someone told me I couldn't eat the foods I do now bc it would hinder my progress I'd tell that guy to fuck off and eat what I want and settle for the progress I got. That's not true but lol but everyone's risk/cost vs reward is different.
Understandable and possibly enviable, in my shoes. As sometimes I will watch someone eat pizza as I eat my chicken and rice... Haha. I don't believe it's masochism or anything like. It could be ignorance towards to effects of one meal on my goals, I don't really know...
The problem and benefit of my personality is I'm either 100%, or 0%.... I don't have any speeds in between. That carries over to diet, too.
It took me a long time to change that but I was the same way. You'd be surprised at how much easier 90% is and how little difference it results in in the end
I think those are lessons only trial and error can really teach, for someone as stubborn as myself... Haha. Honestly it sort of makes me feel good to know I am eating clean, so that's another plus...It took me a long time to change that but I was the same way. You'd be surprised at how much easier 90% is and how little difference it results in in the end
You'd be surprised at how stubborn I am at certain things and how carefree I am to others. Food is one thing I will not sacrifice on lmao.
I for example if Eat small meal x times a day will always feel hungry. Instead what I do is having a breakfast and 2 small meal one half way before lunch and one after (if I'm training is my post workout). Eat A LOT at lunch, like almost all my carbs come from lunch and PW, that's it. My lunch has 2.5x the calories of dinner and 4x the one of breakfast or other small meal.
It works? For me yes, it keep me satisfied for at least the whole afternoon and at dinner I don't binge, I have a normal meal and then I can go to bed without feeling bloated and heavy.
Did it change my body composition in any way? Nope, not in a bad way not in a good way. the only time something changes is when I change my total macro.
I'm with doc on this, most of the ppl are thinking this to much, especially because our body doesn't differentiate between all these timing/food/etc etc.
I can see it with my woman, she is super strict, eat only clean, doesn't even use Mayonnaise, she has not made better progress then me and I eat much "dirtier" then her... with times I'm convincing her to eat a bit more and more relaxed... since she started doing it, everyone is asking me if I put her on something, because she looks more muscular, bigger and stronger... LOL
I eat mostly clean, but just because I'm always hungry, I need clean food because compared to dirty you have to eat more to reach the same macro goal
Moral of the story, eat the fuck you want just fit your macro and try to eat healthy food (not for your muscle, but for your own body).
It works? For me yes, it keep me satisfied for at least the whole afternoon and at dinner I don't binge, I have a normal meal and then I can go to bed without feeling bloated and heavy.
Did it change my body composition in any way? Nope, not in a bad way not in a good way. the only time something changes is when I change my total macro.
I'm with doc on this, most of the ppl are thinking this to much, especially because our body doesn't differentiate between all these timing/food/etc etc.
I can see it with my woman, she is super strict, eat only clean, doesn't even use Mayonnaise, she has not made better progress then me and I eat much "dirtier" then her... with times I'm convincing her to eat a bit more and more relaxed... since she started doing it, everyone is asking me if I put her on something, because she looks more muscular, bigger and stronger... LOL
I eat mostly clean, but just because I'm always hungry, I need clean food because compared to dirty you have to eat more to reach the same macro goal
Moral of the story, eat the fuck you want just fit your macro and try to eat healthy food (not for your muscle, but for your own body).
ddp7
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Awesome post Doctor.
Sorry for the revival but this is my truth too!
So the big question How to know if the micronutrients are in check in practice terms?
If the energy to training is enough?
THANKS!
I aim for 1g protein per pound of body weight from real whole food.
In addition I have a first thing in the morning whey shake, and a post-workout whey shake that adds about 50g protien total from shakes.
Recomp or maintenance cals I need in the low 3k a day -- I get that from carbs and healthy fats. I don't count those super strict but I am aware about what I at each meal and adjust through as needed to get about 20 to 30% from fats.
I actually don't enjoy carbs at all and they are difficult to down in quantities enough to reach bulking calories -- I rather eat protein and fats.
About to cut soon and I will simply slowly reduce all carbs and switch to just fibrous veggies, fats, and proteins.
Not contest prep hard-core cutting -- instead, just simply progressively reducing cals enough to see continuous progress and lean out.
In addition I have a first thing in the morning whey shake, and a post-workout whey shake that adds about 50g protien total from shakes.
Recomp or maintenance cals I need in the low 3k a day -- I get that from carbs and healthy fats. I don't count those super strict but I am aware about what I at each meal and adjust through as needed to get about 20 to 30% from fats.
I actually don't enjoy carbs at all and they are difficult to down in quantities enough to reach bulking calories -- I rather eat protein and fats.
About to cut soon and I will simply slowly reduce all carbs and switch to just fibrous veggies, fats, and proteins.
Not contest prep hard-core cutting -- instead, just simply progressively reducing cals enough to see continuous progress and lean out.
Doctor of PUSSY at Harvard maybe
ddp7
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Eating that brownie in the darkness I guess Lol
C'mon get out of my question lmao
Seriusly many spaniard guys fullfilled this logics w/ green n reds..
Well hope the good doctor read this
If one is bulking, micronutrients are usually eaten in sufficient quantities. You may have a deficiency in one or two simply bc of food avoidance or dietary restrictions. An example is how vegans might be deficient in B12.
While cutting, deficiencies happen much more often. Best ways I've found to combat that is eating diverse foods, as much fruits and veggies as you can include and tolerate in your diet, and use a basic multivitamin as necessary.
PS. I'm not a doctor.
Does it make me gay if I have to seriously think whether I'd eat pussy over brownies?
No. It just depends on what time of the month it is
ddp7
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esus thinking that u was the drjm's clon.Anyways thanks fella.
Trukk if the oats crash your stomach take a muffin with some whey and the result will be the same.Whats the difference?Less cheat,more social and a delicious diet.Obviusly you must do the things right and make your own Shit.
Trukk if the oats crash your stomach take a muffin with some whey and the result will be the same.Whats the difference?Less cheat,more social and a delicious diet.Obviusly you must do the things right and make your own Shit.
