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DC_13

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I have been looking into home brew for awhile now. Spent the last two weeks getting intimate with the process now just need a raw source(dm please) I was thinking either fina or reg tren what do you guys think. I created an account to learn from the best and hopefully get a legit place. I'm ordering the equip later tonight.
 
Lol, inb4 you get told bend over and hold your toes for a thorough examination with 21th finger please google "raw powder, thinksteroid".
 
DC_13 said:
Just trying not to spend 600 in trial and error to find some one
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Then you probably dont want raws that bad lol. Thats kinda what it takes. Im in the process now, quite painful pissing money down the drain. But look at it as an investment. You find a good source, and gear costs a fraction of what it used to. and your 100% sure what youre sticking yourself with!
 
CanYaDigIt said:
and your 100% sure what youre sticking yourself with!
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And right their is bullshit mate - All sources whether domestic or in china are most likely sourcing their raws from china. Chinese raws are going to vary widely in quality you going to get good and bad batches thats just the way it goes.

First time you order your test powder could be 90% pure with 10% or so of harmless impurities the second time you order your powder could be 50% pure and contain 50% of other heavy metals and hormones that have leaked there way into that specific powder.

You cant think that you get some great powder that all the other powders you order from them are going to be equally good considering they are made in separate batches.

China has some of the worst quality control on earth, your powders are almost certainly not from a licensed pharmaceutical so your going to get good and bad batches and some of them are going to contain other hormones than you specifically ordered.

Its not the raw powder suppliers fault either they just resell the batches of powder that they receive they cant exactly run mass spec of hplc on each batch of powder that their chemists synthesize so they would be unaware of impurities or purity.
 
monsterberry1 said:
And right their is bullshit mate - All sources whether domestic or in china are most likely sourcing their raws from china. Chinese raws are going to vary widely in quality you going to get good and bad batches thats just the way it goes.

First time you order your test powder could be 90% pure with 10% or so of harmless impurities the second time you order your powder could be 50% pure and contain 50% of other heavy metals and hormones that have leaked there way into that specific powder.

You cant think that you get some great powder that all the other powders you order from them are going to be equally good considering they are made in separate batches.

China has some of the worst quality control on earth, your powders are almost certainly not from a licensed pharmaceutical so your going to get good and bad batches and some of them are going to contain other hormones than you specifically ordered.

Its not the raw powder suppliers fault either they just resell the batches of powder that they receive they cant exactly run mass spec of hplc on each batch of powder that their chemists synthesize so they would be unaware of impurities or purity.
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Excellent points, but in the end all UG labs and all powder reselllers are supplying from the same country.

From personal experience though, there are better companies in China than others, the real trick is a supplier that has first hand knowledge of the manufacturer and its process.

There are people out there who have actually travelled to Asia and actually know manufacturers personally. Find someone like that vs a reseller working from email and a web page and your chances of higher quality products increade.
 
monsterberry1 said:
And right their is bullshit mate - All sources whether domestic or in china are most likely sourcing their raws from china. Chinese raws are going to vary widely in quality you going to get good and bad batches thats just the way it goes.

First time you order your test powder could be 90% pure with 10% or so of harmless impurities the second time you order your powder could be 50% pure and contain 50% of other heavy metals and hormones that have leaked there way into that specific powder.

You cant think that you get some great powder that all the other powders you order from them are going to be equally good considering they are made in separate batches.

China has some of the worst quality control on earth, your powders are almost certainly not from a licensed pharmaceutical so your going to get good and bad batches and some of them are going to contain other hormones than you specifically ordered.

Its not the raw powder suppliers fault either they just resell the batches of powder that they receive they cant exactly run mass spec of hplc on each batch of powder that their chemists synthesize so they would be unaware of impurities or purity.
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easy there champ. Its not bullshit. If a source gives you 90% purity on one order, and 50% purity on another order. Then they aren't what I would consider a "good" source, and I would move on and try to find another source.
And it is absolutely the raw suppliers fault, its their responsibility to deliver what they advertise...if you received shit powder from a source, would you just say "its okay, its not your fault, you didn't know what you were selling, I dont mind that you just ripped me off" ??? Hell no you wouldn't! youd raise hell, try and get the source to remedy the situation, and then never do business with them again.
I agree that 90+% of powder sources are going to be inconsistent, but thats not really the point of my post (which you clearly missed) my point was the money spent finding a GOOD supplier will pay off in the long run.
You made some assumptions about my post that were inaccurate, try not to jump to conclusions, its not a good look
 
CanYaDigIt said:
easy there champ. Its not bullshit. If a source gives you 90% purity on one order, and 50% purity on another order. Then they aren't what I would consider a "good" source, and I would move on and try to find another source.
And it is absolutely the raw suppliers fault, its their responsibility to deliver what they advertise...if you received shit powder from a source, would you just say "its okay, its not your fault, you didn't know what you were selling, I dont mind that you just ripped me off" ??? Hell no you wouldn't! youd raise hell, try and get the source to remedy the situation, and then never do business with them again.
I agree that 90+% of powder sources are going to be inconsistent, but thats not really the point of my post (which you clearly missed) my point was the money spent finding a GOOD supplier will pay off in the long run.
You made some assumptions about my post that were inaccurate, try not to jump to conclusions, its not a good look
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Hi man - Before i reply to your post i just want to say that im no expert nor am i some super experienced vet that knows loads about AAS. Im just a guy who has purchased alot of raws from more suppliers than i can remember. If my post came across as a "I know everything" kind of post i apologise as that wasn't the intention of my post.

What i was really trying to say in my post was that i dont believe you ever will find a blackmarket supplier of raws who are what you call GOOD or consistent. Because they are made in a unlicensed factory somewhere in china. What really do you think the quality control will be like in a unlicensed factory manufacturing hormones and steroids? But even with the best quality control shit happens and bad batches go out. Pharma grade gear has been recalled due to bad batches and if a licensed factory can have this happen how often do you think its going to happen in a unlicensed manufacturing plant? its far to costly to test each set of raws as they are made up so the source probably wouldn't even know if the batch was bad until after they had sent it out and received feedback from customers.

I do hold the source liable - If they sent me a seriously underdosed batch of powders i would demand a reship and if they refused then i would flame them. If they done the reship and shipped quality powder then i would probably shop with them again.

People in my opinion should accept that bad batches happen and you can never be sure what your taking even from a reliable seller. And for me whats most important is that a source is willing to correct a error and reship a order if there is a problem with the powder.

Goodluck on finding that source anyway :) hope you get some quality powders!
 
A lot of good opinions and thoughts on a difficult and complicated matter.

Good luck to each and everyone and hope everyone had a wonderful day!
 
OK. I get my powder and mix the powder with whatever oil. How can I test for purity and other contaminants or it maybe rat poison? I don't have a lab in my basement.
I guess I'll have to send a sample off to a lab for testing with every order that I receive HUH? That would be a pain in the ass! No pun intended. No home brews for me.
I received a email and the guy wants me use Skype. I did a search and MESO-RX shows up. So powders from China are chancy at best or Russian Roulette.
 
Knowledge is power and there are too many lambs and not enough lions. Thats how they want the game, its rigged, fixed to let the few prosper and the other 98% to stumble through like blind men in a brothel and no sense of smell.
 
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